Posted by Linda Truong on 4/4/05 7:20pm
Msg #29612
Newbie here...wondering if any of you would mind a tag along
Hey there....I just recently registered with Riverside County as a Notary and would like to know if any of you professionals would mind a newbie tagging along with you??
I'm so anxious to start working. Any advice?
Thanks....much appreciated! 
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Reply by HisHughness on 4/4/05 7:32pm
Msg #29615
A new poster asks:
***Hey there....I just recently registered with Riverside County as a Notary and would like to know if any of you professionals would mind a newbie tagging along with you??***
It just never ends, does it?
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Reply by Linda Truong on 4/4/05 7:40pm
Msg #29616
Hmmm....being as that I am new....did I miss a recent conversation about other newbies?
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Reply by HisHughness on 4/4/05 7:44pm
Msg #29617
The latest such conversation was only a few hours ago. It has been noted repeatedly thst California is totally saturated with signing agents; one comment was that withing a 10 mile radius of one city, there were 400 NPs listed. And the question was asked: Even in a non-competitive atmosphere, would you expect Ford to train Toyota personnel to compete against them? It's quite naive.
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Reply by Linda Truong on 4/4/05 7:47pm
Msg #29618
What a jerk. All you had to say was no.
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Reply by HisHughness on 4/4/05 7:49pm
Msg #29620
No.
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Reply by ERNA_CA on 4/4/05 7:51pm
Msg #29621
Ignore it Linda , he treats most like that.
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Reply by Linda Truong on 4/4/05 7:55pm
Msg #29624
Thank you Erna. Maybe cuz he's old and instead of giving back to the community...he one those that is consumed with greed. That's ok though. Positivity....works for me.
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Reply by ERNA_CA on 4/4/05 7:59pm
Msg #29626
Positivity is defiantly a good trait. And manners should be the least expected of posters.
Welcome Linda and hope you do well.
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Reply by CaliNotary on 4/5/05 12:50pm
Msg #29725
Giving back to the community?
That is too funny.
I sincerely hope that by now you've realized that it's not greed that keeps us from training our competition to take work away from us, it's just plain business sense.
And I also hope you learn the true definition of "positivity". It's certianly not the bitchiness you've managed to show throughout this thread.
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Reply by Anonymous on 4/4/05 7:56pm
Msg #29625
ERNA...if we're lucky...
hihughness will be vacated like Korey if we have to deal with his bullshit remarks
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Reply by ERNA_CA on 4/4/05 8:01pm
Msg #29627
Re: ERNA...if we're lucky...
If the playing field is fair then that is what should happen. I agree.
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Reply by HisHughness on 4/4/05 8:04pm
Msg #29630
Re: ERNA...if we're lucky...
Erna, you just can't let it rest, can you? What sort of burr do you have up your butt that it activates your fingers on the keyboard? Why don't you just stop with the junk until you get >>>your<<< chain yanked?
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Reply by Linda Truong on 4/4/05 8:08pm
Msg #29631
Re: ERNA...if we're lucky...
Good Grief!! I bet if we ignored all his comments....it might drive him mad enough to go get a life instead of stay on here and put other people down. Maybe he was teased as a young child. I think we should forgive him for that. :/
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Reply by Anonymous on 4/4/05 8:17pm
Msg #29633
HughNOT
listen PR$%K, enough with the crap you dish out that is unnecessary. If you think you're untouchable to be removed from this site, keep it up. I'm sure with enough contact Harry would make you go to.
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Reply by BrendaTX on 4/4/05 10:46pm
Msg #29659
HughNOT Comedy
This is a comedy.
Hugh's posts are controlling several posters' emotions. My grandma always told me "if a person can make you angry, they can control you." (I see the point, now Grandma!)
JMHO, but this is bordering on hilarious to see what an uproar Hugh (of all people, laugh, laugh, snort, snort) is able to evoke by being "rude" and all the other things he's getting called out for doing. NO...not taking up for him...just noticing the responses that just keep on coming. And, do you really think Hugh's joy of life will leave him if he cannot post here? I am sure he likes it here like I do, but I am guessing that's not a threat that will crush him if it's carried out.
If Hugh and CaliNotary were to team up and become cult leaders, from what I have seen here they could apparently run the world. (And, if you wonder if this is directed at you, remember the words of Carly Simon: "You're so vain, I bet you think this song is about you." It's not directed at anyone...it's just an amused moment of observation.)
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Reply by Ernest_CT on 4/4/05 11:20pm
Msg #29664
Re: HughNOT Comedy
I'm glad I wasn't the only one laughing.
HisHughness has been one of the most helpful people to pst here, IMHO. He just doesn't sugar-coat the truth. (No, I'm not going to use the quote about people not being able to handle the truth.)
If Hugh and CaliNotary were to form a cult, I'd sign up. Maybe they're already members of another organization with a five-letter name, two of which are vowels.
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Reply by Anonymous on 4/4/05 11:29pm
Msg #29667
a,e,i,o,u? can i buy a vowel?
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Reply by Ernest_CT on 4/4/05 11:44pm
Msg #29670
Sure! Just mail me the $50 and your vowel choice.
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Reply by Stephanie/CA on 4/5/05 12:17pm
Msg #29714
Re: HughNOT Comedy...Cali seems to be more respectful. no?
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Reply by CaliNotary on 4/5/05 1:06pm
Msg #29732
Re: HughNOT Comedy...Cali seems to be more respectful. no?
No. Kiss my grits!
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Reply by ERNA_CA on 4/5/05 12:54am
Msg #29680
Re:HISS....your not worth a responce
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Reply by CaliNotary on 4/5/05 12:52pm
Msg #29726
Re: Re:HISS....your not worth a responce
Yet you keep going on and on and on and on and on and on and on about him.
It's fine to make your point, but the amount of times you keep rehashing the same point certianly lends credence to Hugh's opinion of you on this board.
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Reply by Erna_CA on 4/5/05 7:20pm
Msg #29825
Re: Re:HISS....your not worth a responce
And your point is??????????
That you are one of his puppts, wich has been made obivouse, you just confirmed it ones again.
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Reply by CaliNotary on 4/5/05 7:27pm
Msg #29827
Re: Re:HISS....your not worth a responce
Because I agree with Hugh I'm one of his puppets? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
My point is that it's ridiculous to tell Hugh he's not worth a response when you've spent god knows how many posts responding to him. If you feel that way about him then simply don't respond, don't respond by saying it's not worth a response. Just makes you look foolish and confirms his point that you talk too damn much.
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Reply by Erna_CA on 4/5/05 7:36pm
Msg #29831
Re: Re:HISS....your not worth a responce
If anyone talkes too much on here it is you. Reading your posts when i just entered just confirmes what I was told about you. You have nothing constructive to say, you just react when the puppet master calls you to action.
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Reply by CarolynCO on 4/4/05 8:17pm
Msg #29634
Linda,
You asked Hugh if you had missed something and he went on to tell you
*It has been noted repeatedly thst California is totally saturated with signing agents; one comment was that within a 10 mile radius of one city, there were 400 NPs listed.*
He wasn't being a jerk. He was telling you like it was so that you didn't get your hopes built up only to be disappointed. Even if Hugh hadn't said anything, I doubt you will find many takers for ride-alongs because California is just too saturated and has too much competition. However, I will say good luck in your SA pursuit.
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Reply by Linda Truong on 4/4/05 8:20pm
Msg #29635
Even so.... your response was better than his. Thank you....I'll leave this alone.
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Reply by Anonymous on 4/4/05 8:21pm
Msg #29636
wake up carloyn
Hugh WAS being a jerk and just because your on his bandwagon don't defend him unless you can be impartial...reread his post and you might "get" it.
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Reply by CarolynCO on 4/4/05 8:23pm
Msg #29638
Re: I don't respond to Anonymous posters. n/m
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Reply by Anonymous on 4/4/05 8:25pm
Msg #29639
who cares n/m
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Reply by Anonymous on 4/4/05 8:25pm
Msg #29640
but you did respond n/m
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Reply by Dave_CA on 4/4/05 8:31pm
Msg #29642
Stop whining.
I've not seen anything but "chat" and clutter from this group while Hugh is not only informative but humorous. And, yes I'm quite aware he does not need me to defend him I've just gotten thoroughly annoyed with the juvenile behavior.
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Reply by Anonymous on 4/4/05 8:38pm
Msg #29644
Re: Stop whining. ...exactly...
hmmm..and you don't think that his pompous and arrogant remarks are childish and uncalled for?
hmmmm...I think when my grandmother told me to treat others as you would like to be treated...that is what I do. So does it means that HUGH would like to be treated that way....hmmmm...well we didn't have to listen to Korey's crap and Hugh can go ride the Korey train out of here to. I (and many others as well I believe) do not appreciate or need his way of responding to people. Shut up if you have nothing nice to say. There are other ways of saying what he said...point made by Sylvia. Talking down to someone is NOT necessary in ANY sense.
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Reply by Charisma/CA on 4/5/05 11:44am
Msg #29709
I beg to differ...
To the contrary, Hugh is a rather blunt fellow and appreciates blunt, but truthful, answers from what I've seen. He is treating others how he would like to be treated. I think if he was to ask a naive question, he would appreciate a short answer giving him the truth and, if necessary, a reality check. The truth is not always 'nice'. He simply told it how it is.
Even Sylvia, who is sweet as pie, had to use an analogy and type a lengthy post to attempt to put it 'nicely'. Could he have put his statement a bit more 'courteously'? Probably. Was he trying to hurt someone's feelings? He doesn't know the person he was speaking to well enough to waste his energy trying to be 'rude' or 'pompous' or 'arrogant'. Just take it with a grain of salt and be thankful for the insight. If a comment like that gets under your skin you are not going to stand a chance against lenders, escrow officers and signing services.
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Reply by Ernest_CT on 4/5/05 1:15pm
Msg #29734
Well said! n/m
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Reply by BrendaTX on 4/5/05 7:06pm
Msg #29820
Re: I beg to differ...
**If a comment like that gets under your skin you are not going to stand a chance against lenders, escrow officers and signing services.**
Charisma: You are my hero. I have been trying to express the points you have stated so well, but anything I say is dismissed because I am perceived to be friends "with certain ones" who do any number of things others do not agree with.
Thank you for your post.
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Adding:
If one is too sensitive to criticism they will eventually become manipulated by people up the chain who engage this management style. Before you know it, you'll hear and become influenced by:
-All notaries do that!
-In ten years of doing this, you are the first who has refused.
-You are not very good at this are you? If you were you'd know you have to do . . .(fraudulent act).
-You could get sued if you don't do what I am saying you have to do...
-Everyone does these for $40! Everyone loves them...what's your problem?
And, if you don't toughen up, you'll think every set of notary instructions is telling you that you are an idiot. Some are. Who cares as long as you get your check?
The first time you make an error you'll lose credibility when you start lying to cover it up rather than just say: "Yep. I blew it. I'll fix it."
One who is threatened by others not agreeing with them cannot survive with peace of mind in tact...especially in our business.
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Reply by Sylvia_FL on 4/4/05 8:27pm
Msg #29641
Hi Linda
While Hugh may not have put it very well, there is truth in what he posted.
California is saturated with signing agents. There are around 2000 that cover Riverside county alone.
Suppose you had a successful bakery, and the store next to yours became empty, and someone decided they wanted to open a bakery there, but needed training. Would you honestly train that person so he/she could open a bakery next door to you and possibly take your clients?
This is how it is in the Signing agent business. It is difficult to find someone who is willing to train the "competition". The refi boom seems to be at an end, and so there is not the work that there was several years ago.
All, I can advise is to study your California notary handbook, know the notary laws inside out. Market yourself to as many signing companies as you can, but be prepared for long periods without work, as most of the companies have already got their "favourite" signing agents they work with, and also because the areas are so saturated that the companies can pick and choose, a lot of them are asking for a minimum of 2 years experience (and that is a Catch 22 situation, because if you can't get the work, then you can't get the experience).
You also need to invest in the right equipment. An HP laser printer with PCL 5 or PCL6 drivers, a fax machine for outgoing faxes, but get something like maxemail for your incoming faxes.
Some companies are requesting a cable or DSL connection if you are going to accept e-docs. Of course a cell phone is a must.
There are notary luncheons in California, and it would help you to find out more about them and when the next one is (have to watch the message boards for that info) and you will find they are a big help.
Good luck to you I can't help with "tagging along" as I am in Florida, but I am willing to answer any questions you may have.
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Reply by MOrenovalley on 4/4/05 8:56pm
Msg #29647
Im in Moreno Valley and you just hit the nail in the middle of the head Sylvia, Im not going to train my next door buddy, but if I dont want to train her I just dont answer her request and ignore it.
But some other notaries are afraid of loosing future jobs I think. JMHO.
m.V.
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Reply by Ernest_CT on 4/4/05 11:07pm
Msg #29663
Serious advice for all newbies
Please put the two-letter abbreviation for your state at the end of the author name you chose. It will help in two ways: People will give you answers that are correct for your state; many people have the same or similar names.
Got questions? Of course! Use the "Search" button before you post. You will be verbally abused if you ask the same questions that were answered in detail already.
Read all the posts on this forum. Yes, all the way back to the beginning. You'll get a better real-world education than any course you could buy.
Some of what you hear here may sound very negative. Most of it is due to people having been fed a line of nonsense by companies that offer training that "prepares" people to make thousands of dollars their first month. No, in most places in California there is NOT enough notary work to go around. There is not enough notary work in a lot of other geographical areas for the existing notary signing agents (NSAs) to make a full-time living. It is NOT personal. If you've believed the hype, taken the course(s), and then come here to do the research, adjust your expectations now. Just don't blame the notaries who post here.
Most important, study your states notary laws. Know them cold.
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Reply by DonnaV_CA on 4/4/05 10:48pm
Msg #29660
Hi, Linda, you might be interested in signing up with
the Signing Registry. They have a mentorship and training program that can both educate you and help you feel more comfortable as you begin. They find mentors from out of your area so you aren't competing for the same work. I'm not a new notary but only started doing loans last year. My advice is to advertise yourself for non-loan signing notary services and get lots of experience doing that first. Then, get some loan signing training and a mentor. Then... read read read these and the other notary boards. As you go, pick up the equipment you need - ie, get all your ducks in a row before you say yes to those signing services or you'll lose the business as quickly as you got it. and Last, ignore the grumpy people, you'll find out that there's no point in even engaging in argument with them.
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Reply by Reggie on 4/5/05 12:25am
Msg #29674
Re: Newbie here...wondering if any of you would mind a tag a
Linda I'm not from California but if I was I would offer you a ride along just because I understand what compition really is. The population of your area is approximately 4 or 5 million people correct if not more?
Well with that many people all have to have something notarized sooner or later so why not help a newbie get started and it just might help you get more work also because after the newbie gets started you could possibly trade overflow.
That's just my opinion and I am still considered a newbie I'm only in my 3rd full month.
Reggie
Kansas
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Reply by ERNA_CA on 4/5/05 12:46am
Msg #29678
Re: Newbie here...wondering if any of you would mind a tag a
Back from a signing. to the same puppet show. Utterly amazing.
nothing wrong with tag along. I know many that work in pairs and handle each others overflow
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Reply by Anonymous on 4/5/05 8:45am
Msg #29695
Re: Ernas puppet show
you don't think you had anything to do with getting the puppet show underway?
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Reply by LAG-Fl on 4/5/05 12:29pm
Msg #29720
Re: Linda, don't worry......
Linda, don't worry, you are young ( I looked at your picture) think about all those baby boomers getting ready to retire.........I know a company that wants only young people...that is wrong of course but that's the way it goes.
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Reply by Linda Truong on 4/5/05 2:57pm
Msg #29759
Re: Linda, don't worry......
Thank you to everyone that has responded with honestly and kindness. I greatly appreciate all your responses.
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Reply by CarolynCO on 4/5/05 3:30pm
Msg #29771
Re: Honesty
Honesty, as you have found, is not always kind -- but sometimes neither is the truth, and neither are the signing services, loan and or title companies when a signing is done incorrectly or improperly.
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Reply by Anon_CA on 4/5/05 3:06pm
Msg #29762
Re: Ernas puppet show
I am clueless to the meaning of "puppet show", "sock puppet" etc. references.
Could someone please explain! Thanks.
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Reply by Ernest_CT on 4/5/05 3:16pm
Msg #29766
"Puppet show" and "sock puppet"
A situation arose that required the owner of this site to enforce some of the rules. The induhvidual who was spewing garbage and hate has been banned.
Please be welcome. Please leave the "puppet" subject alone to die an unlamented death.
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Reply by CaliNotary on 4/5/05 4:35pm
Msg #29787
Re: "Puppet show" and "sock puppet"
"Puppet Show" is Erna's own term about this thread. I guess she thinks the thread is only valid while whe has something she wants to contribute, then it becomes game playing of sorts. I'll refrain from pointing out the obvious of how her posts contributed to the thread growing into the "puppet show".
"Sockpuppet" is a phrase that's used when somebody creates multiple new identities to support themselves on a forum like this. Korey was the main identity, Susan, LaToya, etc. were the sockpuppets he created to make it appear like other people agreed with him and were cheering him on.
It's beyond pathetic and painfully obvious when somebody is doing this; suddenly a slew of brand new posters jump out of the woodwork and into a conversation as if they'd been posting here for months. Which, of course, they have been, just under various transparent identities.
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Reply by Erna_CA on 4/5/05 7:42pm
Msg #29833
Re: HisH- puppet show. corecion anone..Texas???
Have been watching a pupet show here for days. Its quit commical!
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Reply by CaliNotary on 4/5/05 12:57pm
Msg #29729
The same puppet show?
Coming from you Erna, a person who has been posting the same messages incessantly and in ridiculous volume over the past week, that is really funny. You might want to let more than a few hours lapse between your "Hugh is mean" whines and getting on this particular high horse.
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Reply by Erna_CA on 4/5/05 7:31pm
Msg #29829
Re: The same puppet show? calinotary .. same show allways
Puppet is a person most like you and some others A puppet reacts when the strings are jerked you jump to the aide of the puppet master wich repeately pulls your strings and watches you jump into action as to defend his bad behavior and over inflated ego.
Thats how we end up having to watch a puppet show on here never ending.
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Reply by CarolynCO on 4/6/05 9:16am
Msg #29897
Re: The same puppet show? calinotary .. same show allways
Erna,
Hugh's a big boy and no one is defending him. He's quite capable of taking care of himself. What you refer to as the never ending puppet show is being fueled by your own attempts to stop it.
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