Posted by Ali/IL on 4/13/10 3:42pm Msg #331523
For Il and Wi agents
How many of you are accepting the Mexican matricula card?
Thanks
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Reply by A S Johnson on 4/13/10 4:12pm Msg #331530
Texas does NOT consider acceptable ID
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Reply by Linda Juenger on 4/13/10 4:47pm Msg #331552
Ali, Does that card have 3 things 1. Photo 2. Signature 3. not expired
I have never seen one of these cards. I can't accept the military ID anymore because it does not contain a signature. Our laws changed on June 1 of 2009.
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Reply by Ali/IL on 4/13/10 5:35pm Msg #331564
issue date,expiration date,photo,address and signature
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Reply by Sylvia_FL on 4/13/10 5:42pm Msg #331567
I don't believe those matricular cards are authorized ID cards. The matricula card is not a secure document. Mexico does not authenticate documents used to obtain the ID against computerized data files in Mexico. No major bank in Mexico accepts the card to open an account and the cards are recognized as IDs in only 10 of Mexico's 32 states and districts.
They are of use only to illegal aliens, legal immigrants have US ID's
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Reply by Linda Juenger on 4/13/10 5:55pm Msg #331569
Ali Our IL law also states it must be a State or Federal ID
Like I said, I have never seen one of these cards but by what Sylvia is saying, they are issued in Mexico, not in the US.
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Reply by Ali/IL on 4/13/10 6:01pm Msg #331574
Re: Ali Our IL law also states it must be a State or Federal ID
Sylvia is very correct in what she has stated.
I see them a lot in my area. When I tell them that I don't accept them they say that their lender knows. And the borrowers name is on document that has this card.
It's always not a coborrower but, a spouse that needs to sign marital docs.
Usually a wife.
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Reply by Cari on 4/13/10 6:01pm Msg #331575
these cards mislead alot of mexican immigrants....
...because these can be used by banks to open up checking/savings account, the holders believe its a valid id.
I get alot of calls from spanish speaking clients asking if they can use that card for id purposes to which I say no, and that they need a current d.l or id, otherwise I can't help them.
Then I refer them over to the Mexican consulate.
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Reply by Sylvia_FL on 4/13/10 6:05pm Msg #331577
Re: Ali Our IL law also states it must be a State or Federal ID
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matr%C3%ADcula_Consular
scroll down to Security Issues part of which states:
U.S. law enforcement officials also cite that Matricula Consular cards are issued by Mexican Consulate without checking the authenticity of the applicant's supporting documentation. In testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) disclosed and reported that the Matricula Consular card is inherently unreliable and unverifiable as an identification card and is highly vulnerable to fraud, regardless of its security features
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Reply by Ali/IL on 4/13/10 6:35pm Msg #331585
Re: Ali Our IL law also states it must be a State or Federal ID
Right. And, there are people that are being issued multiple cards to commit crime.
The people that present them are always spouses not on note. I don't feel comfortable about taking them at all.
They are being accepted all in the interest of money.
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Reply by cawest/PA on 4/13/10 7:47pm Msg #331597
Can you accept a passport card in your State? Here in PA some say *yes* but I do not believe we can, a passport that is not expired yes but the passport card seems to be a different story.
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Reply by jba/fl on 4/13/10 8:00pm Msg #331598
There was a discussion recently about passport cards wherein all who knew of them thought they were a great idea and acceptable. (Sorry, don't feel like looking it up.)
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Reply by jba/fl on 4/13/10 8:08pm Msg #331599
Well, heck, Corrine, you were a major contributor to those discussions (326433 & 328173 threads).
As they have basicall the same info as a passport and a signature...what's not to use? It is a passport, condensed version, ie, smaller - right?
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Reply by cawest/PA on 4/13/10 8:16pm Msg #331601
I have been treying to find it but gave up for the night ... had a closing today that gave me a migraine ... I am not sure they understood for the whole 2 hours that I was only there to notarize their signatures and was not an Attorney!
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Reply by jba/fl on 4/13/10 8:09pm Msg #331600
BTW - I am not scolding you in my response. Please don't take it that way.
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Reply by Robert/FL on 4/14/10 7:00am Msg #331644
Passport cards don't contain a signature
... so they are probably unacceptable in some states.
http://travel.state.gov/passport/ppt_card/ppt_card_3923.html
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Reply by jba/fl on 4/14/10 7:28am Msg #331651
Re: Passport cards don't contain a signature
I stand corrected - not having seen one and from previous conversation, I somehow thought they had a signature. Thanks R.
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Reply by Robert/FL on 4/14/10 8:57am Msg #331657
I have a passport card - looks cool and easy to travel with n/m
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Reply by jba/fl on 4/14/10 10:23am Msg #331668
Re: I have a passport card - looks cool and easy to travel with
Is the information embedded in a magnetic strip?
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Reply by Sylvia_FL on 4/14/10 10:32am Msg #331672
Re: I have a passport card - looks cool and easy to travel with
Jules
To increase speed, efficiency, and security at U.S. land and sea border crossings, the passport card contains a vicinity-read radio frequency identification (RFID) chip. This chip points to a stored record in secure government databases. There is no personal information written to the RFID chip itself.
With RFID technology, Customs and Border Protection inspectors will be able to access photographs and other biographical information stored in secure government databases as the traveler approaches an inspection station.
The passport card uses state-of-the-art security features to prevent against the possibility of counterfeiting and forgery. In addition, a protective, RFID-blocking sleeve is provided with each passport card to protect against unauthorized reading or tracking of the card when it is not in use.
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Reply by jba/fl on 4/14/10 11:21am Msg #331676
Re: I have a passport card - looks cool and easy to travel with
So passing through customs is really simplified? I mean, unless they want to search baggage.
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Reply by Robert/FL on 4/14/10 11:29am Msg #331677
Re: I have a passport card - looks cool and easy to travel with
>>So passing through customs is really simplified? I mean, unless they want to search baggage.<<
In theory. I have only ever used it to travel by cruise ship so I presented it like I would present a regular passport book. Supposedly, customs officers can just scan a passport card to verify its authenticity without closely inspecting it, but some of the newer "electronic" passport books have a similar chip that does the same thing.
The benefits to the passport card are that its cheaper than a book and is more convenient to carry.
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Reply by jba/fl on 4/14/10 11:37am Msg #331679
Re: I have a passport card - looks cool and easy to travel with
But no signature....ok, you and Sylvia have answered all my questions. Thank you both.
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Reply by dickb/wi on 4/13/10 7:20pm Msg #331594
not allowed in wi in following the fed guidelines for id.... n/m
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Reply by Robert/FL on 4/14/10 6:58am Msg #331642
In Fla. we can only accept
Mexican driver licenses or identification cards if they are issued by "a public agency authorized to issue driver's licenses in [...] Mexico".
I have never seen one of those matricula cards, but from what I hear it is not a very secure document. Unless it was issued by the Mexican DMV or equivalent, I won't accept it. And personally I would question how someone made it from Mexico to Florida with a matricula card as their only ID. Surely they have a Mexican passport, which we can accept (only if it has been stamped by the U.S. Bureau of Immigration).
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