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 Added to thread #33325-Counter-point View- NSA training
Posted by  BrendaTX on 7/13/05 9:06am

This counter-point view was added for consideration on 07/13/05 after request by Carolyn/CO. Thanks Carolyn.

Re: Training worth the time and investment
Posted by CaliNotary on 7/13/05 1:58am
Msg #51513 from logged in user

I don't think any of us have a problem with the fact that notaryclasses.com exists. Education, especially in this industry, is a great thing. The problem is that their advertising is more like that of a get rich quick scheme than that of a school that aims to create professionals.

While I appreciate the fact that D. Jones took the time to give a thorough explanation of his point of view, look at how much of his post focuses on how much money we can or should be making. To take him at face value, the only reason we're all not making $100K per year is because we're not marketing ourselves effectively enough.

And what about his statement "Yet, lets be real about this.... signing agents make $100 and up (in fact way up) for a 45 minute signing." Are all of your signings $100 and up Maggie? I know mine sure aren't. In fact, I've never once come across a signing service who has a base fee of $100. And lets be real about this, signing services are the bread and butter for most of us on this board. But look how easily he just ignores THAT fact.

Yes, it is possible to make over $100 for a signing. Yes, it is possible to make over $100K per year doing this job. But those are definitely exceptions to the rule, especially for brand new signing agents, and IMO it's a sleazy marketing method to treat it like it's the norm when in reality only a miniscule percentage of their graduates will make anywhere remotely near what is being stated in their ads.

I'm also seeing that it's their standard MO to use "just focus on your own business and don't worry about the competition" as a rationale. While I am not worried about new agents directly taking my business away from me, I am absolutely worried about the indirect effect that this flood of new, incompetent, and untrained signing agents is having on the industry as a whole. Look at the some of the ridiculously low fees that are being offered to us. Look at the increasing amount of faxbacks and handholding that we're dealing with because these companies can no longer assume that their signing agents actually know how to do the job. It's the ripple effect I'm concerned about, not the direct competition.

I agree that you reap what you sow, but I really don't want to have to continue to reap what notaryclasses.com has sown for us. If they keep this up I'm afraid we'll be sown right into an attorney only signing state.
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