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 Re: Help Us Out Here Matt!
Posted by VT_Syrup on 1/12/22 1:29pm

I'm obviously not Mr. Miller, but I believe California notary legislation affects the whole country.

1. CA is one of the largest states and has some of the strictest rules. Other state legislatures, title companies, and signing services are influenced. How often do we see acknowledgement certificates that contain "I certify under PENALTY OF PERJURY under the laws of the State of _____ that the foregoing paragraph is true and correct", which comes from the required CA certificate, even though neither the signer, the notary, or the property have anything to do with CA. Another large state, NY, has little influence because, other than having a thorough exam for new notaries, there rules are pretty lax.

2. Because lots of real estate transactions occur for CA property, the software developers that create multi-state RON platforms will want to make sure that their platforms work for CA properties. They probably don't care that much whether the platforms work for CA notaries.

3. There's lots of signers who own CA property, but do the notarizations elsewhere. I personally have signed dozens of Californians, most of whom were in VT to ski. I also did some notarizations for a friend of mine who inherited CA property. Also, lots of people were born, married, or died in CA and they or their relatives need to obtain birth, death, or marriage certificates; in some cases the application form needs to be notarized. If the CA legislature creates any quirks that prevent a notarization (whether it's traditional or RON) performed out-of-state from being accepted in CA, notaries around the country need to know.

4. Anyone who owns real estate or other property that can be transferred by a notarized document should be concerned about RON, and their greatest concern should be directed at the states with the weakest RON laws. (So far it looks like CA will have a relatively strong set of laws, but laws can change dramatically before governor finally signs them.)

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