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Re: How would you have handled this? (long)
Posted by  Teresa/FL of FL on 8/30/21 8:57pm Msg #634785
My "No, not necessary" response was sent because my conversation with the signer included him providing a witness and I thought that was still the plan. I was unaware that the EO had spoken to him AFTER this conversation and he had decided that he would not be providing a witness after all. We had never discussed me bringing a witness with me and I was already enroute when she texted with the "face time witness" scenario.

When at the appointment and speaking to the EO on the phone there was very little discussion before she volunteered to drive over to witness in person. I was going to suggest going to Panera Bread that was less than 2 miles away and finding a witness there. The borrowers did not want their neighbors to be involved in the transaction that is why they did not provide a witness. They had not done a seller signing in their home before, always at the TC office. The EO was under pressure to get this transaction closed because the buyers had signed earlier in the day and the transaction closing date was the same day.

My plan was to notarize their signatures on the seller package, which requires two witnesses on a Deed for Florida property. The seller was advised of the witness requirement and chose not to provide a witness since the EO volunteered to witness via face time. I have not been able to find any statute or Executive Order that would allow this. Could I have handled this better? Yes, if I had been given all the pertinent information in a timely manner.

A better scenario:

EO to sellers: Your document signing for the property sale is scheduled for Friday, 08/27/21. The buyers will be signing earlier that day. Would you like to sign your documents on Thursday, 08/26/21, or Friday, 08/27/21?

Sellers: Do we have to sign in your office or can you send someone to us?

EO: I can send someone to you, however the Deed must have two witnesses. The notary can be one but you will need to supply the other one.

Sellers: We don't want our friends or neighbors to see the details of the transaction.

EO: Then you will need to come in to the office to sign so we can witness here. I can also offer you a Remote Online Notarization (RON) at an additional cost. Would you like to discuss what is involved with RON?


I don't know if that particular office even offers RON but it could have been an alternative. The facetime scenario should never have been on the table and should not have been sprung on me at the last minute. I can find no valid authorization within the laws of the state of Florida.
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Messages in this Thread
 How would you have handled this? (long) -  Teresa/FL on 8/27/21 8:41pm
 Not in FL--but--Facetime as witness??? Doubt it. - Lee/AR on 8/27/21 10:32pm
 Re: Not in FL--but--Facetime as witness??? Doubt it. -  Yoli/CA on 8/28/21 10:36am
 Re: How would you have handled this? (long) - sue_pa on 8/28/21 10:56am
 Re: How would you have handled this? (long) -  Teresa/FL on 8/28/21 1:26pm
 Personally I think the whole thing went downhill - Linda_H/FL on 8/28/21 1:50pm
 What a nightmare! I wouldn't give it a 2nd thought that -  MW/VA on 8/28/21 11:01am
 Re: How would you have handled this? (long) - Luckydog on 8/28/21 1:13pm
 Re: How would you have handled this? (long) -  Teresa/FL on 8/28/21 1:36pm
 Great! I think you did the right thing. n/m - Luckydog on 8/28/21 2:33pm
 Re: How would you have handled this? (long) -  Cheryl Elliott on 8/28/21 5:36pm
 Re: How would you have handled this? (long) - Anthony - Irina on 8/29/21 11:22pm
 Re: How would you have handled this? (long) - Anthony - Irina on 8/29/21 11:34pm
 Please provide a link to the info you found where - Linda_H/FL on 8/30/21 7:57am
 Re: XYZ's reference -  Amigoaz on 8/30/21 10:25am
 Different kinds of witnesses - VT_Syrup on 8/30/21 10:34am
 Yes, that's my take - audio-video communication - Linda_H/FL on 8/30/21 10:45am
 Re: Yes, that -  Teresa/FL on 8/30/21 9:09pm
 Re: XYZ -  JanetK_CA on 8/30/21 2:40pm
 Re: How would you have handled this? (long) - NVLSlady/VA on 8/30/21 2:05pm
 Re: How would you have handled this? (long) -  Teresa/FL on 8/30/21 8:57pm
 Re: How would you have handled this? (long) - NVLSlady/VA on 8/30/21 10:51pm
 Agree with you 100% Teresa - Linda_H/FL on 8/31/21 8:54am



 
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