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Re: Trump in Ohio
Posted by MikeC/TX of TX on 8/9/19 7:05pm Msg #72760
"Word twisters and just plain haters!"

Says the guy who refers to Obummer, Moochelle, Pelousy... Hypocrisy much?

"No sense even trying to discuss anything with the socialists."

Do you understand the difference between socialism, democratic socialism, and social programs? I don't think so.

Socialism is when the government controls the means of production and the means of distribution. Name me ONE Democrat who has advocated that the federal government should control the means of production in America. Just one, and I will agree that they are a socialist. If you can't do that, please stop labeling everyone you don't agree with as a socialist, because it's nonsense.

Democratic socialism is where the people have a voice in what the government can do with the money it collects.

Social programs can - and do - exist in a capitalist society. They redistribute wealth based on the needs of certain groups of citizens. Obvious examples of current social programs are Social Security (duh), Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, CHIP...

Oh, and that $32 billion bailout Trump is giving the farmers he screwed with his tariffs? It's a social program, where taxpayer money is being distributed to citizens who need help. Or maybe, if we use your definition, it's a socialist program, which means your hero is a socialist

You can't have it both ways - either the government should help you or it shouldn't. It's not situational. A true capitalist would tell the farmers to solve their own problems, no? Why is Trump willing to help them? By your definition, he's a socialist - because you don't understand what socialism is, but you're willing fo label people that way.
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Messages in this Thread
 Trump in Ohio - MikeC/TX on 8/2/19 7:32pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - HisHughness on 8/3/19 8:12pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - shooterclay on 8/5/19 7:54pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - HisHughness on 8/5/19 10:19pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - MikeC/TX on 8/7/19 7:04pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - shooterclay on 8/7/19 10:14pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - MikeC/TX on 8/9/19 5:46pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - bagger on 8/8/19 8:00am
 Re: Trump in Ohio - HisHughness on 8/8/19 3:09pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - bagger on 8/10/19 1:32pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - MikeC/TX on 8/9/19 6:21pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - shooterclay on 8/7/19 10:11pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - bagger on 8/8/19 8:02am
 Re: Trump in Ohio - MikeC/TX on 8/9/19 7:05pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - bagger on 8/10/19 9:23am
 Re: Trump in Ohio - MikeC/TX on 8/15/19 7:01pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - bagger on 8/16/19 6:17pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - MikeC/TX on 8/17/19 6:42pm



 
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