Posted by HisHughness on 12/6/04 12:30am
Msg #12795

Question for Joan Bergstrom

Joan, I posed the question a day or so, but didn't get a response from you. The matter has come up again in a thread today. So, I thought I would be more specific this time, in the subject line and otherwise.

Is it really true that your business uses radio commercials that say there is a shortage of notaries in California? If it isn't, I'd really think you would want to put that calumny to rest, since it severely undermines your credibility -- and acceptance -- on this forum, and probably others.

Could we get a response?

Reply by CaliNotary on 12/6/04 12:35am
Msg #12797

Gee Hugh, I kind of interpreted her silence *as* the response.

I've definitely heard the commercials. I didn't realize that it notaryclasses.com was her site until you asked the question. But in no uncertain terms, these commercials do state "did you know that there is a shortage of notaries in California?" or something very very close to that exact wording.

Reply by BrendaTX on 12/6/04 2:04pm
Msg #12820

Hugh,

This is interesting. You stated:

"Is it really true that your business uses radio commercials that say there is a shortage of notaries in California? If it isn't, I'd really think you would want to put that calumny to rest, since it severely undermines your credibility -- and acceptance -- on this forum, and probably others. "


What stations are we hearing this on in Texas?

You can email me or post, either way ....Do Tell!!!

Reply by BrendaTX on 12/6/04 2:07pm
Msg #12821

Going on to say...

I endorse classes for new NSAs who need further enlightenment, but as far as a shortage of notaries, or NSAs in CA or TX I am not so sure about that!!

Reply by Roger/OH on 12/6/04 2:14pm
Msg #12823

Brenda...

Hugh was referring to a poster from CA in another thread who mentioned he'd heard the commercials.

Reply by BrendaTX on 12/6/04 2:15pm
Msg #12824

Re: Brenda...

Roger - Thanks. I was confused.

Reply by Terri - CA on 12/6/04 3:30pm
Msg #12832

Joan is not the owner of notaryclasses.com.

Reply by CaliNotary on 12/6/04 4:00pm
Msg #12837

Well she's definitely associated with it. From her notaryrotary profile:

"Certified Notary Signing Agent: APN/CSA, NSA, and 123 Notary. I teach students to pass the Calif. Notary Exam for notaryclasses.com."

Reply by HisHughness on 12/6/04 6:38pm
Msg #12854

I don't believe I, who started the original thread, attributed ownership to Joan. I don't know the ownership.

However, I do know that since I have been frequenting these forums, Joan has seized the opportunity on numerous occasisons to tout the agency. Whether proprietor, employee or contractor, she has urged new notaries and prospective notaries to enroll in her classes. Based on what I have read here, the promotions for those classes are duplicitous. And it seems to me, if she is prepared to promote a company with such question versimilitude, then her own veracity is open to question.

Reply by Nd_WA on 12/6/04 11:59pm
Msg #12875

I'd taken that SA and notary is not at all inclusive since being a notary doesn't neccessary constitute one becoming a SA. IMO...its all about who's fast enough to butch the "cash cow" and go where the dough is.

Reply by PAW Notary Services on 12/7/04 7:56am
Msg #12880

>>> I don't know the ownership. <<<

FYI -

WHOIS information for notaryclasses.com:

[whois.opensrs.net]
Registrant:
NWLS
165 W. Hospitality Ln Ste 10
San Bernardino, CA 92408
US

Domain name: NOTARYCLASSES.COM

Administrative Contact:
Jones, Daniel [e-mail address]
165 W. Hospitality Ln Ste 10
San Bernardino, CA 92408
US
909-388-1798
Technical Contact:
Adminitrator, Domain [e-mail address]
P.O. Box 191
St-Bruno, QC J3V 4P9
CA
+1.8779056500


Registration Service Provider:
Register4less, [e-mail address]
514-905-6500
http://register4less.com



Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 20-Sep-2004.
Record expires on 07-Apr-2006.
Record created on 07-Apr-2003.

Domain servers in listed order:
HOST2.OUTFLOW.NET 64.156.173.3
HOST1.OUTFLOW.NET 12.162.161.192


Domain status: REGISTRAR-LOCK

Reply by Terri Garner on 12/8/04 10:38am
Msg #12994

Yes, Joan does work for notaryclasses.com. And as was previously said, one can be a notary and NOT be a Signing Agent. The ad advertises the need for Notary Publics, not Loan Signing Agents.

However, now that California has passed legislation that training will be mandatory come July 1, 2005, classes will be needed by new and renewing notaries, whether they are just Notaries or Signing Agents as well.

My additional $0.02 worth.

Reply by HisHughness on 12/8/04 1:33pm
Msg #13016

Garner defends Bergstrom thusly:

***The ad advertises the need for Notary Publics, not Loan Signing Agents.***

Forgive me, but I don't find that distinction reassuring. On what demographic study or studies is the assertion based? Further, if income predicated on signing agent opportunities is used to promote notary classes, it is deceitful to defend such promotions on the basis that they are directed at potential notaries public, not signing agents.

The original contention was that Joan had undermined her credibility here being a part of any organization that uses such duplicitous sales techniques. I think that still stands.

Reply by CaliNotary on 12/8/04 3:47pm
Msg #13032

I agree with Hugh. The ads say that you can make $5,000 - $10,000 per month as a notary. Kinda hard to do that at 10 bucks a pop for regular notarial services.

Of course, if anybody knows any other ways to make that kind of money as a notary, other than being a signing agent, I'm sure we're all ears in here.

I think it's quite clear that Joan has no plans to respond or explain herself. Hopefully people like Sylvia will stop recommending Joan's materials to new signing agents. If she's going to make her money by these deceptive practices, she certainly doesn't deserve any additional business from the rest of us.

Reply by Negretes Notary Service on 12/6/04 3:32pm
Msg #12833

I can not for the life of me figure out why Joan answers other threads but, not this one Hughness. Maybe the truth does hurt like they say.

Anthony J Negrete
Negrete's Notary Service

Reply by Nd_WA on 12/6/04 5:59pm
Msg #12848

Re: Tony...

Got the check and glad to know you're always on top of things.

Thanks...Andy