Posted by Charm_AL on 4/8/05 3:10pm
Msg #30459

To Harry

I am making a suggestion...take it for what it's worth.

That anonymous feature gives cowards, children, pre-notaries looking for test answers and postal ex posters the perfect way to interject nonsense. Is it possible to eliminate that choice. I think this forum would become a whole lot more professional real quick if people have to stand behind what they post with their name. I also think that this forum would be better if only paying members were allowed to post, whilst others may use it for research and not be able to engage if not a member.

Just my two cents

Reply by Ty_MN on 4/8/05 3:19pm
Msg #30465

Charm

is that two cents worth? I guess that THAT is all in the interpretation.

I think that if you are requesting no more anonymous..than whomever decides to beat the notary up for their remarks or questions, then they should be asked to leave. How's THAT for a requirement?

Reply by Charm_AL on 4/8/05 3:25pm
Msg #30469

Re: Charm

need a tissue?

Reply by Stephanie/CA on 4/8/05 3:58pm
Msg #30479

Re: To Harry...Charm

Hi
Although I am currently not a member of this board, I find that when I visit this board, inevitably someone posts a question that I can answer, or if I'm looking for some information, I usually find it through a simple search.

**I do think it is harsh to suggest that unless one is a member they cannot post, even if they have a helpful response to a question.

Charm:
I don't like the idea of something being taken away from all, because of a few.

This is just my two cents.
Thank you

Reply by Charisma/CA on 4/8/05 4:00pm
Msg #30481

I understand your opinion. However, the ability to anonymously post also prevents loss of business to notaries with an opinion. Say, for example, a notary wants to forewarn other notaries of a pay reduction from a certain company. Not to say they do not want to work for the company any longer, they just want to warn other people in the business. As we all know, SS's, title co's and everyone else search through these boards. SS sees the comment, recognizes the notary, thinks the notary is bad mouthing them, boom, black lists them.

I completely agree that the lack of professionalism caused through the ability to hide behind a word has skyrocketed, however to be able to anonymously post to benefit other people without damaging oneself is irreplaceable. Personally, I think the easiest solution would be much tighter supervision of the posts themselves. It's unfortunate that adults have to be supervised to 'play nice', isn't it? Someone gets their feelings hurt by someone they’ll never know who resides 7 states away and the whole world falls down around them. Ah well. On the flip side, it's difficult to dance the fine line of recognizing constructive criticism and being a message board nazi, which I’m sure is where Harry is coming from.

Reply by L.A./NSA on 4/8/05 4:16pm
Msg #30483

Re: To Harry-JMHO

If, if fact, you limit this forum to members only, it could turn out to be a personal "love-fest" between a few of the regulars, resulting in super long replies taking up vital space that really negates the purpose of sharing notary/signing agent questions and answers.

It reminds me of once taking a night language class in an adult high school only to find that the majority of the class were all continuing student/friends who used the learning process for a commiseration of life's troubles, resulting in more of a coffee klatch. JMHO

Reply by Ty_MN on 4/8/05 4:25pm
Msg #30485

Re: To L.A.-JMHO

I agree 100%
What my point below was "nobody...I mean NOBODY...wants to read the constant verbal beatings of any question asked that the "regulars" don't like or deam "worthy". It's gotten to the point of "clicks" like high school students hang around in. So, to prove a point, I acted like the rest of the "regulars" showing that they don't seem to like it either BUT seem to think they can "dish" it out. SO...I said shut the hell up already. They don't like that either. They think they own the site and run to Harry and cry to get someone off when non-regulars give them exactly what they give out. hmmmm

JMHO

Reply by PAW_Fl on 4/8/05 11:35pm
Msg #30604

Re: To L.A.-JMHO

Please define what you mean by "regulars". I take exception to your generalizations, as I sure some other "regulars" do too.

Reply by Anon on 4/8/05 4:26pm
Msg #30486

Re: To Harry-JMHO

I bet Charm AL has post Anon before.....members can do it too! Sometimes it's better to keep your identity to yourself. My two cents!

Reply by Charisma/CA on 4/8/05 4:44pm
Msg #30491

Re: To Harry-JMHO

Well, L.A., I don't really know how true that comment is. Charm's suggestion does not prevent new people from posting and asking 'green' questions still to get advice, Charm's suggestion only makes them have to pay to be registered with NotRot to be able post. Now I never objected to that part of the suggestion (having to be registered with NotRot prior to being able to post), I only objected to the part about people not being able to post anonymously and only because taking away that ability could be financially detrimental to the notary or prevent information from being given to other notaries.

These immature, degrading, unprofessional, pathetic comments hidden behind the word 'anonymous' have indeed become nearly unbearable. It's amazing to me how constructive criticism (blunt although it may be at times) can spark a wild fire of elementary school cursing and insults like I viewed below. However, as I stated before, if we have to sacrifice a bit by being forced to endure some of the aforementioned comments posted anonymously to be able to post anonymously and help our fellow notaries without fear then so be it.

Reply by Jon on 4/8/05 4:30pm
Msg #30488

Charisma observes,

"Someone gets their feelings hurt by someone they’ll never know who resides 7 states away and the whole world falls down around them."

For the life of me, I don't understand this mentality. For people to be so wrapped up in a message board on the web that a few "unkind" comments affects them so greatly is incredulous to me. I want to respected by most on this board, but even if everyone on this board hated me(who knows, maybe they do?? ) I wouldn't lose sleep over it!! Most of us on the board are simply names, and an occassional picture for those who link to their profile. Why would my opinion of you or anyone else cause emotional distress???? I just don't get it.

Reply by Alan65/CA on 4/8/05 5:04pm
Msg #30500

"Let us look at our own shortcomings and leave other people's alone; for those who live carefully ordered lives are apt to be shocked at everything, and we might well learn very important lessons from the persons who shock us." -- St. Teresa of Avila

Reply by L.A./NSA on 4/8/05 5:10pm
Msg #30504

Re: To Harry-Nice Quote Alan65/CA

In keeping with the vein of this marvelous quote of a fascinating personage, perhaps the "Anonymous'" be thought of as "Pilgrims?"

Reply by Ernest_CT on 4/8/05 5:22pm
Msg #30509

Yes. And their improvement over time known as ...

... "Pilgrims' Progress".

Reply by HisHughness on 4/8/05 5:38pm
Msg #30512

Charisma/CA chimes in:

***it's difficult to dance the fine line of recognizing constructive criticism and being a message board nazi, which I’m sure is where Harry is coming from.***

Where Harry is coming from with respect to this board is from behind about 400 e-mails a day that he needs to churn through. He does not -- repeat, does NOT -- want to have to police us in any way whatsoever. He figures we're adults, and should be able to use the same sandbox without tossing grit in each other's eyes.

What's more, he's right. We should be able to do that. We don't do it very well, though maybe we do it better than other boards without a monitor. What I think would work would be for each of you to control yourselves and never say anything tart, or pointed, or petty, or sardonic, or sarcastic, or taunting, or anything at all like that. If each of you adheres to that standard, why, we'll be okay, especially if each of you pledges that if there is a member of the board who says things that are tart, or petty, or sardonic, or sarcastic, or taunting, or anything like that, you'll just smile and say, "Well, that's Hugxxxxxxxx life."

Reply by Charisma_CA on 4/8/05 5:43pm
Msg #30514

Agreed, and touché.

Reply by Anonymous on 4/8/05 5:56pm
Msg #30522

Re: To Harry, well Hugh

not only does Hugh talk down to people to make himself feel better, he know has to talk in 3rd person to help himself feel important. where does it end?

talk about calling the kettle black Hugh.

Reply by Charisma_CA on 4/8/05 5:58pm
Msg #30523

Speak of the Devil...

And yet somehow, I'm not surprised?

Reply by CarolynCO on 4/8/05 11:38pm
Msg #30605

*Someone gets their feelings hurt by someone they’ll never know who resides 7 states away and the whole world falls down around them. Ah well. On the flip side, it's difficult to dance the fine line of recognizing constructive criticism and being a message board nazi*

Someone will always get their feelings hurt because with words, although you can try to put emotions in, the receiver(s) can't see the poster's facial expressions. Also, what brings about laughs for some can offend others. In this profession, as with life itself, you can't wear your feelings on your shirt sleeve.

As for anonymous posters, I feel it too easy to hide behind the anonymous author, and I think it should be a requirement to come out of the closet, so to speak. Oops, there I go -- how many did I offend with that statement?

I think the excuses that anonymous posters use for posting that way are cop-outs.

Reply by Reggie on 4/8/05 9:47pm
Msg #30582

Well it's time I put my two cents in and here it is I think people should be grown-ups on a site like this. I also think if someone wants to post they should be able to.

I disagree that people should be allowed to use anonymous to cut someone down and make them feel small.

If someone says something about a ss on this site I think they would be protected against retalition from the ss.

Reggie
Kansas

Reply by Ernest_CT on 4/8/05 10:00pm
Msg #30586

Protected by whom? n/m

Reply by BrendaTX on 4/8/05 10:26pm
Msg #30592

Reggie, check your email. n/m

Reply by Mysti_FL on 4/8/05 11:44pm
Msg #30608

May I?

My opinion is:

a) who cares what your name is here? Whether it is anonymous (sp?), Mysti, or whatever name you decide to give yourself, you have the right to your privacy, to the extent you can keep your identity private - I think the inventor of this message board knew what he was doing when he programmed an "annonymous" option,

b) The abuse that sometimes goes on here is rude and is possibly done by people who, for all you know, are just as nasty in person. Therefore, what difference does it make whether they identify themselves or not? Who really wants to know? Besides, don't you sometimes take the information dispersed here "with a grain of salt" specially when is is posted by Anonymous or anon, etc.? Thankfully, since it is a message board and not a chat room, you are able to click right on to the next message if the one you just opened is not educating or entertaining you!

c) Premier membership allows this board to continue - I, for one, am thankful it is around as it has helped earn me spending money. So, if you don't have the cash to pay for membership right now, then, when you do, support this forum. It will also earn YOU spending money!

d) Lastly, for all of you that continue reading newbie questions, grit your teeth and again explain that the "search" button is a useful and necessary tool, I commend you, I applaud you and I thank you. YOU are the ones who keep so many of us in this "professional" board learning, earning and growing.

Thanks for reading.
Mysti