Posted by Anonymous on 2/19/05 9:45am
Msg #21350

How many stamps

Generic question, generic paper. If there are three different people signing it do I need to sign and use my Notary Samp three times? One signature one stamp for each person signing?
Tulip/VA

Reply by BrendaTX on 2/19/05 9:55am
Msg #21351

***Generic question, generic paper. If there are three different people signing it do I need to sign and use my Notary Samp three times? One signature one stamp for each person signing?
Tulip/VA***

In Texas, the answer would be:

One stamp per notarial certificate w/ notary signature.

If three people signed a document, it is possible they signed at the same time and a jurat or acknowledgment would have all three of their names in the jurat or ack certificate.

On the other hand, it is also possible the three people could sign at different dates and times/places and thus you would need a certificate for all three people to be completed by three individual notaries witnessing each signature.

Hope this makes sense.

Reply by Jon on 2/19/05 10:08am
Msg #21354

Tulip/VA,

Not to be rude, but you you really should know basic info like "How many times do I stamp the page?" if you are a notary. Please read your state statutes and seek out more training before doing notary work. I know that some states don't give you alot of info, but that just means if you want to do the job right, you take the time to research it yourself.

This board, and others like it, can be a great source of information. The problem is you will get peoples opinions. You must be able to sort the good from the bad. If I give you an answer, 9 times out of 10, it will be correct....for CA. If you are in VA, you need to be able to determine if my answer is appropriate for VA. This is not the "Get Rich Quick" business that is "sold" by the NNA and others. It will take hard work and perserverance to make it happen.

Best Regards

Reply by Anonymous on 2/19/05 10:40am
Msg #21356

So Jon, who appointed you guarding of this board. I asked about the stamp not SHOULD I ASK ABOUT THE STAMP. YOU SIR, UNLESS ASKED, MAY KEEP YOUR OPINIONS TO YOURSELF. IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS HOW QUALIFIED I AM, SO BUT OUT WITH YOUR SELF SERVING, I AM BETER THAN YOU, OPINION.

Tulip/VA

Reply by HARRY_PA on 2/19/05 10:52am
Msg #21357

IT SEEMS LIKE ANONYMOUS IS A LITTLE TOUCHY. SOMETIMES PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD ARE A BIT PREACHY, BUT IN THIS CASE, I COUDN'T ARGUE WITH JON'S OPINION OR THE WAY HE STATED IT. GROW UP A.

Reply by BrendaTX on 2/19/05 11:17am
Msg #21359

Tulip, I have found Jon to be a very great source of information and one whose posts I read regularly.

A pre-med student said to me recently (and with great wisdom for her young years, I might add):

"It's not the test answers I get right that I will remember. It's those that I get wrong that I will never forget."

Trial and error with learning is a valuable process. I work to embrace it no matter how much it hurts my pride.

Reply by Fay, CA on 2/19/05 11:39am
Msg #21360

Re: How many stamps - What a 'tude

Keep up with the 'tude and don't bother to read up on your notarial laws for your state.

I need the work and you sure aren't helping yourself by not doing your homework. The others on this board are quite knowledeable and I for one will listen to every word of wisdom they deign to give out.

Reply by Terri - CA on 2/19/05 11:49am
Msg #21361

Ok, I'm putting myself in the hot seat here....

This is why attending an educational seminar prior to taking the Notary Exam test is important. The seminar allows you to get clarifications to questions exactly like this.

In California, if all signers appear before you at ONE TIME, then all names go into the certificate and the notary only "stamps/seals" the certificate once. Generally, there isn't enough room for more than one "stamp/seal" impression. And sometimes not enough for one!

Tulip, I suggest that you network with local notaries who can help answer these questions for you.

Good Luck.

Terri
Lancaster, CA

Reply by PAW_Fl on 2/19/05 1:46pm
Msg #21385

While I find it very true that more often than not, if there are multiple signers signing at the same time, then all names appear in one certificate. However, I have found with many Florida prepared documents (Estate Planning documents, property rights agreements and property settlement contracts and agreements) the lawyers tend to provide a certificate (be it an acknowledgment or jurat) for each signer. That is fine for me, since we can only charge on a per "act" or per "stamp" basis, if each signer has their own act and stamp then is more cha-ching than we would normally get.

Reply by ERNA_CA on 2/19/05 2:40pm
Msg #21403

Terri!
Where do you attend seminars? I am a neighbour from Victorville (: . Seminars seem like a good idea, to meet your fellow notaries. And this message board is very very informative. Good to find out iI am not alone in the fight with bad ss agencys ect.

Reply by Jon on 2/19/05 11:49am
Msg #21362

Tulip,

My apologies. You came to a PUBLIC message board and asked a question, silly me thinking you wanted a response(especially since you didn't specify a particular person to respond).

If you went to a mechanic and asked him to fix your car, and he said "Just a minute, I need to check with an online chat board to find out where the engine is located" would you be waiting for him when he came back???

Just a thought

Have a GREAT day

Reply by Anonymous on 2/19/05 12:26pm
Msg #21366

So Jon, every time someone asks a question that doesn't meet your standards are you gonna lecture them?

Reply by Jon on 2/19/05 1:07pm
Msg #21377

My standards are irrelevant, it is the standards of your state notary statutes that count. I only suggested that you look to the governing authority in your state to get definitive answers to basic notary questions. And yes, if I think that lecturing someone is going to help them, I will. If someone doesn't want my help, discard what I write or don't read my posts.

Why are you so defensive????

Reply by HisHughness on 2/19/05 12:12pm
Msg #21365

It is the business of everyone on this board how qualified you are. Our professionalism may well be judged, and judged harshly, by your lack of professionalism. If there is any butting out to be done, let me suggest that you be the one who does it. Please go back to stacking soap boxes at Wal-Mart where the only people who are going to be hurt by your lack of expertise are those looking for Cheer who can find only Tide.

Reply by CaliNotary on 2/19/05 1:21pm
Msg #21381

I'm just sitting here smiling, not saying a word.

Reply by Jon (The Great) on 2/19/05 1:29pm
Msg #21384

CaliNotary smirks,

"I'm just sitting here smiling, not saying a word."

Like they say, there's a first time for everything. Both the smiling and the not saying a word!!

Reply by ERNA_CA on 2/19/05 2:50pm
Msg #21406

Well!
In this world of ours. Some are kind others are harsh. That is just the way it is. She saies while she makes sure her fonts are correct (:.... oh my but what about the spelling (:

Reply by CaliNotary on 2/19/05 3:31pm
Msg #21420

Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Reply by ZLee_Califia on 2/19/05 3:51pm
Msg #21426

Re: How many stamps-Deference to FAIRNESS

From one who has ventured into many of life's arenas in victory and defeat, may I humbly add:
"Every expert was once a beginner."

Reply by BrendaTX on 2/19/05 4:08pm
Msg #21429

Re: How many stamps-Deference to FAIRNESS

ZL from CA: *From one who has ventured into many of life's arenas in victory and defeat, may I humbly add: "Every expert was once a beginner."*

You entitled to have this opinion. I humbly disagree with it.

I am no expert of any kind...jack of many trades, and master of none is an accurate way to describe me.

Let's take this off of the notary for a moment....Simple example...In my hobby of lye soapmaking, I made much soap that was thrown away until I learned how to make it right. I gave no soap away until I knew that the caustic was neutralized so that it would not burn someone else's skin when they used it.

No one else was used as a guinea pig - I policed myself until I was sure I knew what I was doing.

The notary work we discuss here is not much different. When we KNOW we don't know what we are doing, should we not police ourselves and keep learning until we KNOW that our activities will not burn someone else?

I think it's great that the original poster asked the question. I answered.

Another poster explained to her the concept of using the notary rules to learn these things. They need to be learned...and along with the original question, many more excellent points will come to light upon exploring one's rules.

We are not talking about doing a job that affects nothing else but our own reputation of ability.

As NSAs, doing our job poorly (with knowledge that we are ill-equipped, no less) could jeopardize several others or injure them financially. It would be wiser and kinder to learn the notary rules before we jump into the job.

Reply by John_NorCal on 2/19/05 9:09pm
Msg #21476

Re: How many stamps-Deference to FAIRNESS

"As NSAs, doing our job poorly (with knowledge that we are ill-equipped, no less) could jeopardize several others or injure them financially. It would be wiser and kinder to learn the notary rules before we jump into the job. "

Your statement reflects the value of this forum. Many moons ago when I obtained my first commission, there were no forums, classses, or whatever. I don't think I made too many mistakes, at least no major ones that I am aware of. Having gotten out of the industry a few times and now coming back, I value the input from this forum and I use it to get back up to speed.

Keep up the good work people...and **try** (don't) take things personally!