Posted by Bridget Akers on 6/12/05 8:31pm
Msg #44147

California Notary

Are there any Notaries in Southern California willing to "train" a new notary? Or does anyone know of a good resource to go to for some extra knowledge? Thank you!

Reply by HisHughness on 6/12/05 8:46pm
Msg #44150

Bridget Akers inquires:

***Are there any Notaries in Southern California willing to "train" a new notary? Or does anyone know of a good resource to go to for some extra knowledge? Thank you! ***

Please note that I am sitting on my hands. My mouth is sealed with duct tape. I am tied to my chair. I can't even get to the keyboard with my chin to respond.

It's a tough life, being a curmudgeon.

Reply by John_NorCal on 6/12/05 8:54pm
Msg #44154

Wish some wizard would come by and untie you Hugh!

Reply by SamIam_CA on 6/12/05 9:03pm
Msg #44157

Bridget - have you already read post 33325? Where in so. cal. are you located?

Reply by Bridget Akers on 6/12/05 9:17pm
Msg #44159

No, I have not read post 33325. How do I get there? Ventura County.

Reply by SamIam_CA on 6/12/05 11:15pm
Msg #44184

Bridget - when you posted your new message there was a button immediately to the right, colored orange, that says search. Use that search function to find post 33325 - there is tons of information that has been gathered in that one post from the 33324 messages previous. Good Luck!

Reply by Anonymous on 6/13/05 7:32am
Msg #44215

Since you are new to the forum, it is suggested you learn your way around before asking questions. Sit back and read past and present messages. You might be surprised to learn that all your questions have already been asked and answered.

Reply by Susan on 6/13/05 2:55pm
Msg #44336

Bridget, what is your email address.

Reply by Anonymous on 6/12/05 9:31pm
Msg #44160

OK... why on earth would we "train" competition? I am sorry to post Anonymous BUT I just have to vent... Can you beleive that 3 close relatives of mine that all live less that 10 miles from me took an 8 hour course, passed the test, took the fingerprints and now have their seals (the got their certification, sela all in less than 2 weeks) and all have asked me to train them. THey have NO idea what they are doing. Basically they heard the radio spots saying we make $1,000,000 per year and beleived it. I have been a notary for 9 years and started doing loan signings 2+ years ago. No one took me by the hand and drove me around and explained the process to me. Why should I for anyone else? I told them to read the posts on this site and get certified first. Then we would talk... Any opinions?

Reply by CaliNotary on 6/12/05 9:37pm
Msg #44163

I would love for one of these new notaries to explain why exactly they expect a complete stranger to train them how to do this job for free. We're always (justifiably) jumping on them about us training the competition, but I would be interested in their perspective for once.

Care to take a crack at it Bridget?

Reply by Stephen_VA on 6/12/05 10:56pm
Msg #44180

3 reasons:

1. Technically nearly every state has a clause about notaries training notaries. But only for notary specific items.
2. Almost all training expands #1 and turns it into "People are out there to train you."
3.The training sites and books push networking and training by saying "People might show you the ropes, ask them." It only takes 1 to say yes, and 10000 "no's'" puts you right back where you started.

Possibly more reasons, that is what I can come up with.

Reply by Anonymous on 6/12/05 9:38pm
Msg #44165

Thank you all for responding. To the "Anonymous" person , I would have been anonymous too, if I was a rude person. I am sure you are embarrassed to be you, so I forgive your rudeness. Don't respond to my questions again, thank you.

Reply by CaliNotary on 6/12/05 9:46pm
Msg #44167

Get over yourself. This board isn't your own personal help desk. If you're going to post on here you run the risk of getting responses you may not like. Sorry we didn't just roll out the red carpet and train you to do this job but if you're going to ask a stupid question that is asked on almost a daily basis on this board, you can expect a bit of "rudeness".

And FYI, the anonymous poster was completely correct. YOU"RE the rude one for being such an ungrateful bitch when you're not told what you want to hear.

And I don't forgive your rudeness. Piss off.

Reply by Anonymous on 6/12/05 9:50pm
Msg #44170

Thanks CaliNotary! I feel the same way.. I did not feel I was rude in my original posting even though I had the urge to be. It is just so frustrating to see all of these notaries accepting $40 sigings and then having to clean up their mess! Then they want to be trained free and given tips on how to get jobs and letter to give to title companies and lists on companies that pay better.... It took me a long time and hard work to establish my name with companies!

Reply by Bridget Akers on 6/12/05 10:08pm
Msg #44173

Maybe this is the wrong career choice for me. I thought nice people could do this job. I guess I was wrong.

Reply by Dmartz_IN on 6/12/05 10:28pm
Msg #44174

Bridget,
you are in a state that has 3 nortaries on evey block, competition is very fierce, you can't think someone will take you in and teach you all they have spent years getting. There are some Notary Associations that have mentor service i am sure one of the more experienced members would point you to those. Read all the posts here and evey forum you can. if you wish to gain insight into this bussiness take a course from one of the Assoc. The question you posted was not the right one to ask of California Notaries.

Reply by bridget on 6/12/05 10:31pm
Msg #44175

Thank you, Dmartz_IN, for being honest and nice about this. That is all I ask.

Reply by Sharon/Calif on 6/12/05 10:51pm
Msg #44178

Bridget, ya know.. what all the so-called "SEASONED" notaries.. seem to forget is that THEY TOO were once a "NEWBIE" and how lost and uncertain they felt when they first started out. They also forgot how it felt when they would come into one of these message boards and post a question, perhaps something that THEY thought was legitimate enough, and suddenly a somewhat more experienced but insecure "SEASONED" notary snapped back at them telling them how the "newbie" wants them to do all their work for them. I've been doing this for just over a year now and I guess some of the more "seasoned" notaries think I'm still a newbie, but, I've taken extra courses and gotten out there and learned a lot on my own. One reason was, I was a "newbie" that got my head snapped off for asking what I thought was a reasonable question and I thought, heck with this nonsense I'll not ask them for help again! I'm not a glutton for punishment. Anyway, I'm still not "SEASONED" but I'm pretty good at what I do and very thorough and I like the business as long as I don't have to talk to too many other so called "SEASONED" notaries.. or so called "retired" attorneys.

Now having said all that... where in California are you?

Reply by HisHughness on 6/12/05 11:28pm
Msg #44186

Sharon/Calif trumpets:

***One reason was, I was a "newbie" that got my head snapped off for asking what I thought was a reasonable question and I thought, heck with this nonsense I'll not ask them for help again! I'm not a glutton for punishment.***

On behalf of all retired attorneys -- and I suspect quite a few others, too -- I want to thank you for finally doing what you should have done before posting an inane question. Never too late to learn, Sweetie.

Reply by Sharon/Calif on 6/12/05 11:35pm
Msg #44190

I'm NOT your SWEETIE, and I would never want that so called "dubious honor"!!! Please refrain from becoming to personal! Thank you!

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 6/12/05 11:33pm
Msg #44189

Sharon
A lot of us "seasoned notaries" didn't have the luxury of all the message boards that are available now. When I first started I only knew of one, and that was the NASA board (National Association of Signing Agents), most of us on there had studied the NASA Signing Agent Guide and had taken the Signing Agent test to become Certified Signing Agents. We had done a lot of studying. There was no mentor program to help us learn the ropes. The questions weren't the basic questions that are being asked now - as most of us were notaries first long before we became signing agents.
Then the NNA bought out NASA (we were only told that NASA was partnering with the NNA, that all the NNA was going to be doing was taking care of the supplies)
Once the NNA bought out NASA they started the loan signing seminars - learn to be a notary in the morning and a signing agent in the afternoon, and make $125 an hour (Yes, that is what they were touting) But they were telling the attendees to then go find themselves a mentor! So, these new signing agents had had the benefit (?) of a one day seminar, they were certified and ready to do signings. But they had no idea what they were doing! So, then you would see the very basic notary questions on the message boards that were now available. Questions that they should already know the answers to. How could they be certified and not know the basics?????
The NNA then proceeded to flood the market with signing agents, saying that there was a shortage (???????)

Then the market got so flooded that companies dropped their fees, after all signing agents were now a dime a dozen! You now see companies only wanting to pay $40 for a signing!
And then the companies that never required fax backs started requiring them, as too many errors were being made by the new signing agents.

I have seen signing agents that were full time now only working part time as there is not the work there used to be, and there are more signing agents to share in the work.

You can understand the "seasoned" signing agents not wanting to train their competition.

Say you have a bakery on a quiet street, you are doing very well, as you are the only bakery. But then three more bakeries open up on the street, and the owners come to you asking you for help, they need to know the best suppliers to use, the best way to advertise their business, etc as they want to do as well as you are doing. Would you help them get their business off the ground knowing that they will be taking some of your customers away - because they want to get the customers they are probably going to undercut your prices.

I don't think any "seasoned"signing agents mind answering some questions, but no-one is going to be willing to train their competition.

You need to, first and foremost, study your state manual until you know your state's notary laws inside out. You need to study a good training guide, like the one put out by the Signing Registry (www.signingregistry.info). How to be a Wildly Successful Signing Agent is also a good guide for California signing agents (I think it is available from www.notaryclasses.com.

The Signing Registry also has an excellent mentoring program.

When you know your states notary laws thoroughly, studied a training guide until you are familiar with loan docs (The Signing Registry Training Guide has a sample of just about every loan doc you will come across,along with a script you can use for loan signings), when you have done all this, purchased the necessary equipment - laser printer etc, then market yourself to companies. And if there is something you are not sure of, then ask on the boards - but only after you have done your own research on the question. Because honestly, a lot of the questions on this board can be answered by reading your own states manual or a training guide for signing agents.



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Reply by Sharon/Calif on 6/12/05 11:41pm
Msg #44191

You know Sylvia and Hugh (whatever) no one holds a GUN to your head to answer any of these questions, (which you feel answering is BENEATH you) but to come online and be down right "rude" and obnoxious because someone asks a simple questions or you feel threatened in your job security well ..... "that" then becomes YOUR problem! Once again, a little NICE goes a LOng LONG way!!!.. try it! You might like the response you get!

Reply by Susan Axelrod on 6/12/05 11:48pm
Msg #44195

Re: California Notary-To Sharon, way to go!

Better check your backside, you might find you have a second orifice after some posters finish with the likes of us.....

Reply by Sharon/Calif on 6/12/05 11:50pm
Msg #44199

Re: California Notary-To Sharon, way to go!

Tee hee... pulling on my armour.. even as we speak.. lol!!!.. I have to confess .. sometimes its fun ruffling their OLD feathers.. lol... good night!

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 6/13/05 6:22am
Msg #44210

Re: California Notary- Sharon

Read my message again! It is an explanation of why some signing agents are not willing to answer questions - train their competitors.

Anyone who has been around for a while can tell you I have answered questions whenever I can. Answering questions has never been beneath me. I have often gone out of my way to answer questions. And quite frankly, reading over this thread you are the one coming over as rude and obnoxious. As you said a little NICE goes a Long Long way, you may want to try it. Maybe it is your attitude that makes some signing agents not want to answer your questions.


Oh - and I am not feeling "threatened" in my career - there is a difference between job and career! - I have more than enough signings from my title companies I work with. Many of them are my clients because they have read my messages on the boards and they see I know what I am talking about. I don't know what impression they are getting from your posts.

Reply by BrendaTX on 6/13/05 7:02am
Msg #44214

Perhaps newfolks should get just what they want...

It's getting to the point that I am beginning to think it is only a matter of time before someone gets the bright idea of starting a forum for your "mean, stingy, old-timers"--a forum for "post-grad work" discussions rather than this elementary school brat behavior. Your attitude stinks.

Keep it up new folks and you'll get what you wish for...the old 'uns will go talk among themselves and find a professional forum area to share marketing discussions that will yield more and push us upward.

This board is full of all the info you need but you are too lazy to research, perhaps?

Stomp on Sylvia--especially Sylvia--CaliNotary, Janet, Hugh, etc. and you stomp the helpful nature right out of me...and the rest of those who could actually help you by continuing to post information that you can learn from.

Good luck to you...I think you are going to need a lot of it.

Reply by LisaV_MN on 6/13/05 2:44pm
Msg #44328

Re: Perhaps newfolks should get just what they want...

I am still fairly new, and sometimes in need of assistance. I would love to tap that knowledge from the "old-timers" I keep hearing about. Unfortunately, I find myself searching through thread after thread of bullshit from them that I never really learn anything from them except what NOT to do (in life – most have nothing to do with being a signing agent).

Maybe it is time for you "old-timers" to find a nice little forum somewhere away from those of us wanting to do a good job and learn from others. The only thing I have seen any of you seasoned folks teach in the last 6 months is grammar, rudeness, and what it is like inside your little minds. What does that teach me about being a signing agent??

If this thread is a threat, please make it happen. I could use a bit nice conversation from like minded individuals. I don't need "old-timers" to learn from - if I have to sort out the bullshit 1st.

There are plenty of seasoned agents out there, willing to shine a bit of light for us learning. I would prefer to deal with them. You are doing no one a favor by letting your ego's run rampant. Control the egos - send them to a nice new forum - a place they can call there own.

One other question....
If you do find your home away from home on a nice "old-timer" board, whom will you argue with, berate, insult, and laugh at????

I believe we are all stuck with you rude ones, it is very apparent you need to bash and belittle others.

While you are all busy posting bitchy replies, I am off again to complete more signings – wish I had time to sit all day long and do what you all do to be considered an “old-timer”.
Get off your asses, earn some money, and maybe you will not be so damn rude to others.

Cheers!!

Reply by Anonymous on 6/13/05 2:52pm
Msg #44333

Re: LisaV_MN

It's politically correct for the "old-timers" to stay put and for the new "like minded individuals" to start a new board of your very own that's not tainted with bullshit.

Reply by LisaV_MN on 6/13/05 2:59pm
Msg #44340

Re: LisaV_MN

I was just offering to take them up on their offer.

Reply by Anonymous on 6/13/05 3:19pm
Msg #44344

Re: So you're leaving and taking the play nicey people

with you?

Reply by CaliNotary on 6/13/05 2:53pm
Msg #44334

Re: Perhaps newfolks should get just what they want...

I earned almost $6,000 last month and over $6K the month before. That's the great thing about this job, I have the time to earn that much money AND sit on my ass and be so damn rude to others!

Gotta love capitalism!

BTW Lisa, this board is not designed to TEACH you about being a signing agent. It's a place for signing agents to discuss the business. If you happen to learn from it, great, but if you think it exists just as a classroom for the needs of newbies, you're sadly mistaken.

And I give you major props for having the bravery to write out the word "bullshit". Now lets see how many of the "you're a potty mouth" brigade pop out and complain about your language.

Reply by LisaV_MN on 6/13/05 3:05pm
Msg #44342

Re: Perhaps newfolks should get just what they want...

Cali - I will see your $6000 and raise you $1200 - my total for last month (without the rudeness)

I never said the board was supposed to "teach" me about being a signing agent. I know all about being one - however, I disagree about it being just for discussing business (did I miss the posts of business dicsussions? I will have to use that orange button..) Here's why:

Take a peek at the top...

General Discussion
Please use this forum to discuss notarial procedures, share experiences, ask questions of your peers, etc.

Pay special attention to "ask questions of your peers". When someone does this, they are met with rudness. I was trying to get across to some of you - I would love to have the professional banter rather then the rudeness.

Reply by Susan Axelrod on 6/13/05 6:39pm
Msg #44403

Re: Perhaps newfolks should get just what they want...

Way to say it LisaV_MN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reply by CarolynCO on 6/13/05 7:57am
Msg #44220

Re: Sharon/Calif

Since you are specifically addressing Sylvia and Hugh's rude and obnoxious answers, you need to re-read their posts. I'm sorry the truth hurts you and you have become defensive. Not one of us feel threatened in our job security. In fact, quite the opposite because as long as inexperienced and unprepared people go out and do signings, after they screw the docs up because they have no idea what they are doing, we then have to go out and fix them -- we will always have a job.

Reply by BrendaTx on 6/13/05 8:34am
Msg #44228

Petition: Messes, Insecurity, and Other Relief:

Petition: Messes, Insecurity, and Other Relief - "Legalheads" will get the corny pun...

Now comes a curmudgeon who would show the readers the following:

I.
I like fixing messes. Don't mind at all.

II.
Favorite "messes" - Cleaning up after a local attorney more than once. Finally, I figured out by referring him I was manufacturing work for myself. I give the truth when an HELOC venue is needed and I send them his way.

III.
The only job insecurity I have is fearing I won't be dilligent to pay attention to industry trends, getting too comfortable in my work and thinking I can get business where there is none. Refi's cannot and will not last forever.

Wherefore, premises considered: Petitioner asks that the readers consider the foregoing and excuse her having a little fun with the others who get it.

Reply by JanetK/CA on 6/13/05 4:57am
Msg #44208

Right on, Sylvia!!

Especially the part about becoming a thoroughly knowledgeable notary before trying to become a signing agent, then doing more than just taking a class -- actually STUDYING -- before doing doc signings! I also thought your bakery analogy was right on target. As always, good, solid advice!! Tks.

Reply by CaliNotary on 6/12/05 11:43pm
Msg #44192

"I've taken extra courses and gotten out there and learned a lot on my own."

And I'll bet you're a much better signing agent because of it. You're welcome.

Reply by Sharon/Calif on 6/12/05 11:46pm
Msg #44193

No ONE!! NO one thanked you!!!.. nor will I...

Reply by CaliNotary on 6/12/05 11:49pm
Msg #44198

Relax sweetie, the "you're welcome" was on behalf of the entire board. The ones who forced you to take the initiative to actually learn what you're doing.instead of rely on the scraps of possibly incorrect information you would have gotten from this board.

Reply by Sharon/Calif on 6/12/05 11:51pm
Msg #44200

Relax yourself.. and DONT call me sweetie.. I'm NOT yours or Hugh(whatever's) Sweeite.. nor would I care to be. Don't get PERSONAL!..

Reply by CarolynCO on 6/13/05 8:04am
Msg #44222

I doubt you will get ANYONE (except ones who don't know any better) to thank you, either.

I would honestly like to hear your definition of rude and obnoxious, because obviously it is different than most of ours.

Reply by BrendaTX on 6/13/05 6:48am
Msg #44212

On "newbie" status...

*** THEY TOO were once a "NEWBIE" ***

Don't give up on your dream of having a business, but use your smarts to find a business that you know something about. IMHO, you came too late with too little to this one. Cut your losses and move on.

I.
I had a call from a woman who first called notaries in her area (DFW, Texas) for all the answers. They gave her some solid direction by telling her to start reading this board and to do internet research. Finally gave her a really straight answer "I am not the best one to ask, you are my competition." Then, they quit taking her calls because they realized she was not a self-starter and had this sense of entitlement that they should take half an hour from their work and focus on her needs. One of them told her to read my website and she found me and called. I told her the same about the others she had called and gave her all the info I give any "newbie" I have never heard of which is basically my contribution to message #33325, plus info on my inspection work which is in my newsletter blog and also in this board as well.

She read it and wrote back asking me questions that were already answered in the sources I gave her. I wrote her back and told her that it had taken me nearly two years to rise to the top of my heap without any direction except by taking an inventory of what I knew, therefore, that she should go back and read the info I had given her plus to expect the same (or longer) learning curve.

II.
I know a notary in another state who has started a totally unrelated business. She's doing her research on her new business and working night and day to get her business of the ground. She has studied, built a viable business plan, and even waited hours for an opportunity at the gates to visit key persons of a foreign embassy in her quest to start her business. That's the kind of determination you need to start a new business.

You don't get answers handed to you IF you are serious. If you want to get rich quick, find a wealthy relative and cozy up to them.

By the way, the total number of competitive businesses she has asked to mentor her or to train her is zero.

III.
Stop treating this like learning how to knit, cross stitch or run a hobby club. This is a business.

If you are in business, it implies you already know something about how to do the job.

If you are a newbie without experience or tight connections into mortgage, legal, title or real estate transactions...seriously...you have been scammed by your own laziness and unwillingness to crunch numbers, do research, develop a business plan and to establish a marketing plan.

Find something to do which you have a "bent" for. If you don't have some kind of background leading you into this business...wake up, folks. The refi boom is over. You will get nothing but the dregs and scraps of jobs that probably won't pay you.

AGAIN, I am not being a dream-stomper, or a negative person: Don't give up on your dream of having a business, but use your smarts to find a business that you know something about.

You came too late with too little to this one. Cut your losses and move on.

IV.
Here is an example of what you are doing:

I have never done windshield repair or state auto inspections. I see there is a lot of business here in town for that. I don't have a place to do this type of work. However, I hear the business is good. Today I think I will go around and ask the successful businesses if I can find out where I should locate my business for the best possible success...I want to find out how much they charge so I can be a little bit cheaper. I want them to tell me what business licenses I need, what regulations I need to learn, what state licenses I need. (If they gave me answers to these questions, WHY would I believe them???)

Oh yeah, and suppose they have a forum where these things are discussed online. I am too busy to read through their chatter...there's too much bull to wade through...surely they can just tell me exactly what I want to know, when I want to know it while I take notes. All the answers are there on that forum but it's too time consuming, you see. I am busy with other things. I want it given to me in a direct line at my convenience.

Reply by Dorothy/MI on 6/13/05 8:17am
Msg #44226

Again, Brenda is right on!

Brenda, do you want to save this message or should I. I'm sure we'll need it again and again and again.

Reply by BrendaTx on 6/13/05 8:26am
Msg #44227

Dorothy - Maybe it should be posted in #33325 thread?

I think you should be the keeper of the famous #33325. Feel free to collect any of my info, put your magic on it and re-post in #33325 ... Thanks Dorothy! Brenda

Reply by Dorothy/MI on 6/13/05 8:44am
Msg #44229

Re: Dorothy - Maybe it should be posted in #33325 thread?

Brenda, isn't it something when great minds think alike!! That was my very first thought and I will do it.

Reply by Anonymous on 6/13/05 7:47am
Msg #44219

There you go Bridget -- you have a taker to hold your hand.

Reply by Vi CA on 6/12/05 10:52pm
Msg #44179

The Signing Registry has a great training guide that you may want to consider purchasing. It has been recommended on this site more than once. I purchased it myself and it is great! It answers a lot of the questions most beginners have. It also walks you through a sample loan package. Don't let negative responses dicourage you, there are a lot of great people on this board who are very nice and more than willing to help. Sign up with as many signing services as possible and study, study, study so that you will be prepared and ready to go when that first call from a ss comes your way. I'm new to the business myself and let me tell you it's not easy, it took me awhile but when the first call came I was definitely prepared and have been getting steady calls. And lastly, just some advice--never give anyone the satisfaction of letting them know that they got under your skin. Best of luck!

Reply by Sharon/Calif on 6/12/05 11:00pm
Msg #44181

Cheers Vi!!! .. I agree whole heartedly! A little "NICE" goes a long way!

Reply by bridget on 6/12/05 11:06pm
Msg #44182

Thank you sharon.

Reply by CaliNotary on 6/12/05 11:46pm
Msg #44194

"A little "NICE" goes a long way!"

So do quotation marks and capitalization.

Reply by Sharon/Calif on 6/12/05 11:49pm
Msg #44196

I give it ... when I get it! That hasn't happened much here! And after all .. who cares!.. lol... good night!

Reply by Earldean Mayfield on 6/13/05 8:57am
Msg #44233

Maybe you should pratice what you preach. If you want others to be nice,why don't you try it.
Looks to me like it's a one sided sword. n/m

Reply by Anonymous on 6/13/05 8:09am
Msg #44223

"A little "NICE" goes a long way!"

your "NICE" has really come through in your postings. NOT!

Reply by CarolynCO on 6/13/05 7:43am
Msg #44218

*Maybe this is the wrong career choice for me.*

It sounds like the NNA has gotten to you and your money.

Reply by Anonymous on 6/13/05 7:40am
Msg #44217

I always give my competition full access to my computer, my checkbook, my contacts. Yeah right.

Reply by Jenni on 6/12/05 10:40pm
Msg #44176

How are you going to get out of this situation, gracefully with your relatives? Good Luck!

Reply by Susan Axelrod on 6/12/05 11:22pm
Msg #44185

Re: California Notary-To Bridget, gather the strength

to ignore.....

Hi Bridget, welcome aboard! I think there are some really nice folks and helpful people on the board. There are also some bitter ugly souls that can't help themselves. I seldom visit the message board anymore perhaps only once a week simply because of this sort of nonsense. And heaven forbid you have a comment, opinion, oh a question that differs from shall we say some posters. I will be happy to offer you any help I can, e-mail me at [e-mail address].
Just imagine how unprofessional some of the posters may indeed be in the work place when we see this side of them on the board.
Best of luck!

Reply by Vi CA on 6/12/05 11:28pm
Msg #44187

Re: California Notary-To Bridget, gather the strength

This is one of the nice and helpful people I was talking about. She was one of the 2 people on this board who offered to help and did. Hi Susan!!

Reply by Susan Axelrod on 6/12/05 11:32pm
Msg #44188

Re: California Notary-To Bridget, gather the strength

Hi Vi!!!!!!!!!!!! Let's try to meet for lunch this week, I can come to your work?

Reply by Vi CA on 6/12/05 11:49pm
Msg #44197

Re: California Notary-To Bridget, gather the strength

Read your email.

Reply by Sharon Munday on 6/12/05 11:59pm
Msg #44202

Re: California Notary-To Bridget, gather the strength

I didn't see anything in my e-mail?

Reply by Liz on 6/13/05 1:30am
Msg #44204

Re: California Notary-To Bridget, call if you need help

Bridget,

If you find yourself in a situation where you need help, or have a question, please feel free to call me. I will try to help you. Anytime.

888-849-1193 ext 3

Reply by HisHughness on 6/13/05 1:41am
Msg #44205

Re: California Notary-To Bridget, call if you need help

Liz inserts into the mix:

***Bridget, if you find yourself in a situation where you need help, or have a question, please feel free to call me. I will try to help you. Anytime.***

I don't want to go off half-cocked here, but do I have this right: The operator of a signing service, who finds it advantageous to encourage as large a pool of low-paid notaries as possible, is using a message board for signing agents to assist in creating competition for those very same signing agents? In the Bronx, that would be called chutzpah; in Texas, we call that cojones -- that is, when we don't call it perfidious backstabbing, which is most of the time.

Reply by Merry_CA on 6/13/05 11:54am
Msg #44260

Hi Bridget...

WOW! Look what you created by asking for a little help!

NOW... Look carefully at the names of the responders to your post and the attitude they project. You will see them over and over again... the good, the old and the ugly! Note the name of the people who are positive and willing to help... they are the professionals and they are the ones to pay attention to. The others will only drag you down... ignore their posts...

I was (and continue to be) helped by some very knowledgeable and kind professional NSA in my area (San Francisco Bay Area). I was taken along on loan signings several times. If I lived closer to you you would be welcome along with me.

Reply by ERNA_CA on 6/13/05 1:55pm
Msg #44312

Re: Bridget!

Second Merry. Write down all the folks that jumped on you and make a point of ignoring their posts from now on. Ones you do that this becomes a nice board with lots of nice folks. They have jumped on all of us called us names and make the same tired remarks over and over.They refer to them selfs as (great minds). When you think about it, what kind of a mind can produce what they do, nothing great about it. Welcome to the board and I which you best of luck. Feel free to ask anything you want. But just skip over then names of the nasties and go directly to the ones that will actually answer your questions and give you a helping hand. Silvia is actually a very nice woman and a wealth of information. The others that immediately turn your question into an open invitation to bash you and promote their silliness and even name calling. IGNORE THEM AT ALL TIMES.

Reply by And if you are in CA... on 6/13/05 2:34pm
Msg #44324

Re: Bridget!

Ignore ERNA because she gives WRONG ADVICE is a total DIP!

Reply by ERNA_CA on 6/13/05 2:40pm
Msg #44325

Re: Bridget!

Another excample of the only thing they have to offer. Worthless garbage.

Reply by No, on 6/13/05 2:43pm
Msg #44327

Re: Bridget!

I was saying that YOUR ADVICE to CA Notaries is nothing but WORTHLESS GARBAGE!

Reply by ERNA_CA on 6/13/05 2:44pm
Msg #44329

Re: Your ignored and not worh my time. get over it!!!!! cali

Reply by CaliNotary on 6/13/05 2:47pm
Msg #44330

Re: Your ignored and not worh my time. get over it!!!!! cali

Don't blame me for that one Erna. If nothing else, you know that I never hide behind anonymous posts. It's Susan Axelrod who is calling you a dip. The same Susan Axelrod who, earlier in the thread, whined about how mean people are in here.

Can we say "raging hypocrite"?

Reply by ERNA_CA on 6/13/05 2:50pm
Msg #44331

Re: unread and ignored, dont waist your time

Reply by CaliNotary on 6/13/05 2:54pm
Msg #44335

If you're replying to me you're not ignoring me genius.

Reply by Anonymous on 6/13/05 2:56pm
Msg #44337

Re: unread and ignored, dont waist your time

Erna you ARE reading and not ignoring because you are waisting [sic] OUR time

p.s. waist = thats what is around some of our middles

Reply by Anonymous on 6/13/05 3:19pm
Msg #44345

Good God woman! Learn to spell!

Reply by HisHughness on 6/13/05 3:43pm
Msg #44356

Re: Good God woman! Learn to spell!

Anonymous orders:

***Good God woman! Learn to spell!***

I normally don't read anonymous posts, nor respond to them. The same thing goes for Erna's posts, in spades: She offers little except inanities, and reading one of her posts is like expecting a sirloin and biting into a wet marshmallow.

However, though I find that she contributes little except voluminous verbiage to this board, I do not fault her spelling, nor do I think you should. She speaks at least two, maybe more, languages, and I am envious, not critical. Read her posts if you feel you must, but give her this: She is writing in a language not her own, and I think deserves commendation, not condemnation.

Reply by Ernest_CT on 6/14/05 3:36am
Msg #44491

Right on, Your Hughness!

I envy ERNA. English is ERNA's fourth (third?, fifth?, sixth?) language. She does very well by typing phonetically. People should not mistake her spelling for ignorance. She does have a good command of English; it is English spelling that is sorely lacking in consistant spelling rules. Most of us, including me, don't even speak/write two languages! Cut her some slack, those who focus on form instead of content. ERNA brings a positive attitude here, which is more than I can say for a lot of us, including me!