Posted by John/VA on 6/21/05 8:36pm
Msg #46663

Newbie Question

Hello, I am new a new notary and I had a quick question about acknowledgements. There is a place that says "SS:" Do I write the person signing social security number in this place? Thank you.

Reply by Vicki/MD on 6/21/05 8:55pm
Msg #46666

Good grief! No! Please see a discussion thread not too far below here discussing what SS means. See also the discussion board on notary rotary and carefully review your notary handbook.

Reply by oh, boy on 6/21/05 8:57pm
Msg #46667

You're kidding, right? (nm)

Reply by John/VA on 6/21/05 9:02pm
Msg #46669

Re: You're kidding, right? (nm)

I know what SS means, but is this for the borrower's SS or mine? I have read my handbook and see nothing stating this information. I thought this forum was for help, not put downs. I have not done a signing, but have dummy docs I am going over to prepare myself. I want to be sure I am prepared for my first signing. Any HELP would be appreciated.

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 6/21/05 9:06pm
Msg #46672

Re: You're kidding, right?

John
Do not feel bad about this question. I have seen lenders put a borrowers social security number there.

The ss in this case is an abbreviation for the Latin word scilicet, meaning "namely" or "in particular" It refers to the venue. Just ignore it Fill in the venue and you are fine.

Reply by Anonymous on 6/22/05 10:57am
Msg #46797

Re: Then what is venue

Reply by PAW_Fl on 6/21/05 9:27pm
Msg #46677

Re: You're kidding, right? (nm)

John,

Unfortunately you do not know what SS means in that context. Normally, I would agree with you that SS would mean Social Security (number), but in this context it does not. Though, you are not alone in that assumption.

The others where pointing you to a previous thread that discusses what the SS in the venue means and the implications.

In summary, some notaries mistakenly believe that they are to fill in the signer’s social security number after the letters “S.S.” Actually, the letters are the abbreviation of the Latin word scilicet, meaning “in particular” or “namely.” They appear in the venue, so that the location of the notarization literally reads, “In the State of _________, in particular the County of ____.”

You may simply ignore these letters and complete the venue as usual.

Reply by John/VA on 6/21/05 9:39pm
Msg #46679

Re: You're kidding, right? (nm)

Thank you very much to Sylvia and PAW. I appreciate your mature response. I don't understand why these other people had to put me down when actually it is a question that has obviously came up before with other notarys. Thanks again!

Reply by BP/WV on 6/21/05 10:41pm
Msg #46684

Re: You're kidding, right? (nm)

That IS actually a good question... I just searched my handbook for my state and it does not even address "ss". So, John..... that was a good question and Sylvia and Paw were very helpful. You'll find that there are a lot of people on this board who are quite reluctant to answer a question straight forward... perhaps they just dont know, or are scared someone will gain too much knowlede and create a little compitition.

Reply by Midwest on 6/22/05 8:16am
Msg #46745

To Syliva Re: SS

After many signings, and never having filed in the 'ss' besides state and county, i started to second guess myself, although I have never been called on it. I was looking at some docs last night and noticed that it almost looks like the 'ss' is to the right of a bracket any maybe just states that, this is the venue - state and county, not asking for anything else. is that what you have been saying all along? i hope this makes sense.

Reply by Anonymous on 6/22/05 10:56am
Msg #46796

Re: You haven't a clue

"I know what SS means, but is this for the borrower's SS or mine? "

NO, you don't know what SS is.

Reply by MarleneM/USNA on 6/22/05 8:54am
Msg #46751

Re: Social Security Numbers

Not to put too fine a point on it, never, never put a Social Security number - either your customer's or your's - on anything. You are not required to do that.

If any state does have that requirement, would you please let us know? Thanks.