Posted by Rene on 3/17/05 3:40pm
Msg #26090

Authorization vs. Jurats

When does one use an Authorization vs. Jurat?

Reply by Beth-CA on 3/17/05 3:51pm
Msg #26092

Don't you mean "Acknowledgment " rather than "Authorization?"

Reply by Korey Humphreys on 3/17/05 4:14pm
Msg #26096

Acknowledgment vs. Jurat (?)

A Acknowledgment is a formal declaration before an authorized official by a person signing an instrument that such execution is his/her free act and deed. The term also refers to the notary's certificate on the document indicating that it was so acknowledged.

A Jurat is a written notarial certificate on any sworn statement or affidavit completed by the notary public indicating that the document was signed and sworn to or affirmed by the signer in the presence of the notary public.

Jargon jargon jargon....... to answer your question now.......

You use an acknowledgment to attest to someones free act and deed.

You use a jurat to declare that the signer has sworn, or affrimed, under the penalties of perjury, that the contents of the document are true. Penalties exist if found out differently in the future. (perjury).

Note: Sworn = oath & affirmation. The difference between an oath and affirmation is that an oath invokes (calls upon) a deity (God figure) whereas an affirmation does not. The oath or affirmation are legally equivlant.


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Korey

Reply by BrendaTX on 3/17/05 4:45pm
Msg #26100

Acks vs. Jurats

If you mean Acknowledgments vs. Jurats, Rene, you are not the person who needs to determine which should be used....THIS IS IN TEXAS. And, I had to add that because I do not know where you are or what your notary rules say.

In TX it is not up to the notary to decide which notarial certificate to use. The rules/law is clear on that. If someone wants me to notarize something in TX, and they come to me and there is no notarial certificate, then I must allow them to select from the statutory certificates.

It is not correct to assume that you can look at a document and decide which notarial certificate is needed UNLESS you are a Texas Attorney...again, in Texas. This would be the unauthorized practice of law and will get a notary a conviction on a 3rd degree felony if a notary does this, plus one other infraction of the notary law...two strikes and you have a felony record. Read your notary rules and do not depend upon strangers to answer these questions. Notaries do not have a company manual to peruse and learn as they go. They are working under specific law.

Reply by Ernest_CT on 3/17/05 5:05pm
Msg #26104

Re: Acks vs. Jurats: Agreeing w/ Brenda

Choosing one versus t'other is, for a non-attorney notary, Unauthorized Practice of Law (UPL) in most states. Please consult your state's notary handbook and underlying laws.

This specific question gets asked very often on this Forum. People are being especially kind in their answers to you. Knowing the difference between a jurat and an acknowledgement is one of the first things a notary learns. If you are a notary, you should already know the difference. If you are not a notary, then any notary you consult should tell you that it is UPL for them to choose whether you need a ack or jurat.

Good luck.

Reply by CaliNotary on 3/17/05 5:09pm
Msg #26106

Re: Acks vs. Jurats: Agreeing w/ Brenda

In keeping with the new warm fuzzy spirit of this board I'm grinding my teeth, twitching in my chair, but not saying a word.

Reply by CarolynCO on 3/17/05 5:20pm
Msg #26110

Re: It is difficult to do at times, isn't it? n/m

Reply by Merry/CA on 3/17/05 5:46pm
Msg #26113

Re: It is difficult to do at times, isn't it? n/m

Here we go again! This is the kind of "mean spirited" banter that the "old timers" engage in that makes we "newbies" reluctant to ask for clarification on "basic" questions. Maybe the first reply to a question such as Rene's would be... "check your state's law on this and good luck" rather than going on and on with an answer that may or may not apply. Also, it seems to me that the only ones with the time to be sitting at the computer would be the "newbies" who don't have enough work yet. The "old timers" should be out making money or "graciously" answering the questions (no matter how basic) of the "newbies".

Reply by Becca-WI on 3/17/05 6:15pm
Msg #26116

Re: It is difficult to do at times, isn't it? n/m

Well put Merry!

Reply by Jon on 3/17/05 6:36pm
Msg #26121

Re: It is difficult to do at times, isn't it? n/m

What is mean spirited about expecting a new notary to be at least somewhat familiar with the most BASIC notary terms and acts?

There was an accident in Santa Monica a few years ago where an elderly man drove into a street market killing several people. His excuse was that he didn't know where the brakes were!!! I'm sorry if you think that I'm mean spirited, but if someone is going to drive, figure out the brakes BEFORE going on the road!! That is a BASIC tenet of driving. I believe the same goes for a notary that is entrusted with a transaction affecting a half a million dollars(approx. average price for a home in So Cal).

Reply by CarolynCO on 3/17/05 6:55pm
Msg #26124

Re: Don't use this forum as a replacement for not having ...

to know your own state notary laws! As Jon pointed out, this is basic notary stuff, that everyone should know, and until you know these laws forward and backward, you have no business handling loan docs.

Reply by MERRY on 3/17/05 7:00pm
Msg #26126

Re: Don't use this forum as a replacement for not having ...

Carolyn - What is this forum for?

Reply by BrendaTX on 3/17/05 8:44pm
Msg #26159

Great Question: What is this forum for?

Isn't is a forum for notaries to learn and share? Or, have I made a wrong turn into notary group therapy?

My answer was not mean spirited. It's the kind of answer that I would learn from.

Reply by nt/ca on 3/17/05 7:18pm
Msg #26132

Re: Don't use this forum as a replacement for not having ...

I think it would behoove us all to keep in mind that not everyone on this board is a commissioned notary - some people actually use this site as a reference source because it contains information regarding the notary industry. Some people peruse this board and post questions because they are doing research about becoming a notary or notarial practices. So we can't always assume that people know the laws of their own state.

Reply by CaliNotary on 3/17/05 7:32pm
Msg #26139

Re: Don't use this forum as a replacement for not having ...

True, but this board is not the place for that. Would you really want to participate on a board where half of the posts were questions from people who weren't even notaries? How long do you think that would last before most of us ran for the hills?

I think that this message makes it pretty clear that the participants of this board are already expected to be commissioned notaries:

"General Discussion
Please use this forum to discuss notarial procedures, share experiences, ask questions of your peers, etc. Please avoid the advertising of your services - that's what your profile is for. "

This board can't be, nor should it be expected to be, all things to all people if it's anywhere remotely connected with notaries. It has a more specific purpose and that's sure not to train people on how to pass their notary tests.

Reply by nt/ca on 3/17/05 7:57pm
Msg #26151

Re: Don't use this forum as a replacement for not having ...

Well if you're right, then this forum shouldn't be open to the public to review and post - it should be closed to registered members who haven proven that they are commissioned in their state.

I'm sure that would go a long way towards weening out those of us who clearly make y'all grind your teeth with all our pesky and uninformed questions.

Reply by CarolynCO on 3/17/05 7:58pm
Msg #26152

Re: And some want us to pass their SS test ...

*Some people peruse this board and post questions because they are doing research about becoming a notary or notarial practices.*

And some are posting the questions from a SS test so that we will pass their test for them. Yep, that's the SA I'd want to handle my own refi.

Reply by Ernest_CT on 3/17/05 11:09pm
Msg #26195

I wish CarolynCO were kidding, but ...

... if you review past postings you will find people who ask specific questions from specific tests!

Reply by HisHughness on 3/17/05 6:16pm
Msg #26118

Re: Acks vs. Jurats: Agreeing w/ Brenda

CaliNotary reported:

***In keeping with the new warm fuzzy spirit of this board I'm grinding my teeth, twitching in my chair, but not saying a word.***

He has not been heard from the following item appeared in the LA Times. Whether there is a connection has not yet been ascertained. We all have our fingers crossed.

LOS ANGELES (AP)-Los Angeles police reported that an unnamed white male was found Thursday in what they described as “the most bizarrely extreme example of a stress-related death in memory.”
The man was discovered in his home, a spokesman said, after a neighbor reported hearing strange scratching and gurgling noises. Police said the scratching sound apparently was caused when the man, who was found sitting in front of an active computer, clawed at the top of his desk. Police described a whole series of nail marks three-quarters of an inch deep in the desk.
No identity of the victim has been released pending notification of several people whose names were pinned to a wall in the room in the home that served as an office. The names apparently had been used as targets for darts.
A preliminary coroner’s report noted that the man evidenced stress “far beyond the human condition to endure.” The entire top of the man’s head had been blown off, the report said, his eardrums had burst from the inside, and his eyeballs had protruded fully an inch, all the result of blood pressure “not even an elephant could survive.” In addition, his lower lip had been bitten through, his toes were curled into balls that could not be straightened out, and his nails had driven splinters from the desk all the way through his palms.
Police and medical investigators were searching Thursday to the cause of the victim’s extreme distress, but the police spokesman said they had thus far found no clue.
“His computer was signed on to some notary public site,” the spokesman said, “but we obviously have dismissed that as the cause of the problem. It is sheer speculation at this point, but one of our officers who has some experience along these lines says that Missouri insurance salesmen have been known to engender such severe stress in reluctant prospects.”

Reply by MERRY on 3/17/05 6:54pm
Msg #26123

Re: Acks vs. Jurats: Agreeing w/ Brenda

But isn't simply refering a "newbie" back to their state's notary handbook an "obvious" insult (put down). I wouldn't come back to this board again without checking every possible resource first if I was put down like that. This approach would be so much less strenuous on the "oldies" than gnawing their teeth (bad for your health). Also, did you ever stop to think that maybe some of those "basic" (dumb) questions are "plants"... just to get you "oldies" to start blowing your tops off?

Reply by CarolynCO on 3/17/05 6:59pm
Msg #26125

Re: An obvious insult ??

How is referring someone to their notary handbook a put down?

Reply by MERRY on 3/17/05 7:05pm
Msg #26127

Re: An obvious insult ??

It would imply to me that I had not done my "homework"... I had not researched my question every possible way before coming to a "forum of professionals" for answers to the "basic stuff"! To be sent back to my state's notary handbook is telling me, without you having to "gnaw your teeth" over my stupidity, that I have no business at this forum until I have done a lot of studying first.

Reply by HisHughness on 3/17/05 7:21pm
Msg #26133

Re: An obvious insult ??

Merry huffs, when challenged on posters asking fundamental questions about notary practice:

***To be sent back to my state's notary handbook is telling me, without you having to "gnaw your teeth" over my stupidity, that I have no business at this forum until I have done a lot of studying first.***

Lessee, Merry: Your child is going into surgery next week. Preparatory to that surgery, the child's doctor signs on to a forum of surgeons and asks: "When does one use one of, what are they called, stampels? scaffolds? scalpels?, and when do you use the forceps in brain surgery?" Think the other surgeons might feel justified in telling the good doctor that he should go back and maybe spend a little more time with "Grey's Anatomy" and a few other texts? Or, as I gather you would from your posts, would you feel perfectly comfortable in letting him operate on your child at his current level of ignorance, because you found the other doctors attitude offensive?

Yes, you perhaps have business at this forum without having done a lot of studying first. Please, though, show a minimum of courtesy to those members who have "done a lot of studying first." Before you ask a question of the professionals here, at least study enough to know the difference between a question that is asked in a desire to improve existing skills, and one that is asked out of a well of ignorance that is so deep and wide as to be frightening.

Reply by Merry / CA on 3/18/05 10:49am
Msg #26264

Re: An obvious insult ??

Isn't that what I said?

Reply by CaliNotary on 3/17/05 7:22pm
Msg #26134

Re: An obvious insult ??

Were they selling quotey marks by the caseload at Costco or something?

The original poster doesn't even know what an acknowledgement is; he called it an authorization. That's hardly something that requires a high level of notary knowledge or a lot of studying. And yes, on this board there is an expectation of a certain basic level of knowledge. Knowing what an acknowledgement is called certainly falls within those parameters.

But thank YOU for trying to stir up controversy when there clearly is none. If you're offended by something this trivial, I can't imagine you'd be too happy with the rest of the discussions on this board either.

(How did I do folks?)

Reply by CarolynCO on 3/17/05 7:40pm
Msg #26144

Re: Quotey marks

*Were they sellinjg quotey marks by the caseload at Costco or something?*

That's why I generally use asteriisks myself.

Reply by Becca/FL on 3/17/05 9:20pm
Msg #26168

Re: An obvious insult ??

Cali - I think the "lighter" side of you is great. I liked you before & now I like you more because you are crack'in me up! ROTFLMAO!!!

-Thanks ;-)

Reply by CaliNotary on 3/18/05 1:26am
Msg #26206

Re: An obvious insult ??

Awww, thank you so much. Lord only knows how long I can keep it up, but it's an interesting mental excercise to see if I can get my points across in a way that's still my style, yet less likely to set off the touchy people.

I'm Breezy!

Reply by Korey Humphreys on 3/17/05 7:23pm
Msg #26136

with all do respect....

The original question imposed here was rather "dumb".

However, nobody is the board police (except for Harry :-D), therefore we shouldn't type here and argue about what was implied, and/or what constitutes an insult.

I do believe that this professional forum should not be used for "dumb" questions, however, once again, I'm not the board Police and will try to assist when reasonable. If I don't like a question, then I won't answer, plain and simple.

Sincerely,
Korey

Reply by Korey Humphreys on 3/17/05 7:28pm
Msg #26137

IN ADDITION:

IMO if you took the oath of office and became a notary, then you should take responsibility for yourself and research your notary laws, procedures and practices.

Why on earth would anybody become a notary public if they don't have the first clue as to what the notaries duties are?????

If you worked in a factory putting together shoes all your life, would you in turn apply for a social worker position with the Department of Social Services???? No! Then why would you apply to become a notary if you don't no at least the basics?????? JMO

Reply by Merry / CA on 3/18/05 10:56am
Msg #26269

Re: IN ADDITION:

That was my point exactly! Simply tell someone with such a basic question to go back to their state's handbook and good luck!

Then go about your day as a busy SA!

I haf no idea that professional SAs have so much time on their hands.

When I get up and really going in this business I hope to be so busy, or other things in my life that I won't have time to "chat" endlessly.

Reply by CarolynCO on 3/18/05 12:00pm
Msg #26285

Re: Look at the time of the postings ...

If you will notice, most of the postings you are talking about occurred in the evening and even in the wee hours of this morning when you were probably fast asleep. Signings can occur at any time, so therefore, you will see postings here 24 hours around the clock.

Reply by CarolynCO on 3/18/05 12:05pm
Msg #26288

Re: P.S. to Merry

Take today for instance, I have 3 signings, but at the moment, I'm doing laundry and cleaning the bathroom, in between doing secretarial work for my secretarial biz, waiting for FedEx and printing docs for one of the signings.

Reply by Charm_AL on 3/18/05 12:40pm
Msg #26296

Re: P.P.S to Carolyn...

I just got back from a signing, going to HFC at 1:30 and then getting my hair done...lol after that we go get my stepsom for the weekend, grocery shop and eat dinner out.
Some people would rather whine than go make the most of their time and study/sign up to SS's.
At the moment (over the last three days) I've been working on a website adding to watching my three year old and staying out of the new kitty's claw space. Oh yeah, got to go get my nails done sometime tomorrow!

I feel like Wonder Woman

Reply by PA Notary on 3/17/05 9:58pm
Msg #26177

Re: with all do respect....

Korey. Korey, Korey.....with all DUE respect....please, for your own further advancement, please get a reference text to improve your grammar.....it will enhance your respectability greatly

Reply by Korey Humphreys on 3/18/05 10:42am
Msg #26261

LOL Oh God I actually searched!! 8D

I went through my message and double checked everything. Couldn't find the mistake. Then, when I was about to give up, I saw DUE in caps!! DUH!!!! LOL sorry.... I type 80 WPM I usually just type and send without checking..... THANKS

Reply by CarolynCO on 3/17/05 7:35pm
Msg #26141

Re: An obvious insult ??

*To be sent back to my state's notary handbook is telling me, without you having to "gnaw your teeth" over my stupidity, that I have no business at this forum until I have done a lot of studying first.*

No one is saying that you don't have business in this forum, however, if you don't know your basic state notary laws, you have no business handling loan documents.

Reply by Jon on 3/17/05 11:27pm
Msg #26199

Re: An obvious insult ??

Merry said:

"It would imply to me that I had not done my "homework"... I had not researched my question every possible way before coming to a "forum of professionals" for answers to the "basic stuff"!"

I suggest to you that if you came here and asked the difference between an acknowledgement and a jurat, you HAVEN'T done your homework or you wouldn't have to ask the question. I also think that the best place for someone to go for answers IS their handbook.

Reply by BrendaTX on 3/17/05 9:19pm
Msg #26167

Re: Acks vs. Jurats: Agreeing w/ Brenda

*Also, did you ever stop to think that maybe some of those "basic" (dumb) questions are "plants"... just to get you "oldies" to start blowing your tops off?*

Actually, that's a very good point. However, it could even be more than that...perhaps a diabolical plot to overthrow the good of NotaryRotary.com, or even the government.

Plant or genuine--the answer I gave is accurate. If this is an adult forum for learning, it is not a problem. If this is group therapy, as I mentioned elsewhere, posters must assume that every reader has a very fragile ego and proceed accordingly. In that context, my answer was not sensitive enough ... but could someone redirect me to the room for notaries?

Reply by Liz/MD on 3/17/05 9:58pm
Msg #26178

Re: Acks vs. Jurats: Agreeing w/ Brenda

And you must have alot of time on your hands instead of on a seal.

Reply by BrendaTX on 3/18/05 8:58am
Msg #26236

Re: Acks vs. Jurats: Agreeing w/ Brenda

*And you must have alot of time on your hands instead of on a seal.*

Very good observation. I focus on NOTHING else besides my business. Relationships other than family are kept to a minimum. How I spend my time is always involved with succeeding as an SA. The interaction on this forum and the Texas Notary Network is both my social life and a way I give back to what I have been **blessed** with. I have made it so I have "no life" besides this and thus more time to be here. I am not embarrassed about that.

I have more time on my hands now than I will in the future. I have found that this month (my 16th since I started as an SA) seems to be a real turning point of work coming to fruition.

Attempts at endorsing notary eduction on this forum is not just a casual hobby. I made a personal commitment to myself to "walk the walk" not just talk at the end of last year. To that end, thru my newsletter in January I gave away three MOJOs to notaries (Tx, Tx, Ca) who would write a short paragraph explaining how they learned their notary rules and the difference between a jurat and acknowledgement. Further, at the first of this month I turned down $250 for work from my best clients on 3/9 to go to Austin (79th Legislature) to testify on behalf of SB 219. SB 219 would require mandatory education or testing before commissioning a notary.

It was what I see on this forum that made me realize this is critical. I was naive in the past to believe everyone took their notary rules to heart. Generic references were made to this in my Austin testimony. No sites or notary names were mentioned, of course.

Unless something changes, I won't be around much next week. Four entire days are committed to two different title companies in other cities Maybe being clear on notary rules is helpful. Why would they pay extra to have me drive in?

FWIW, both of the principals who have engaged me for the above expressed their appreciation for me endorsing notary education by taking time off from my business to testify in Austin. One said: "What? You don't think it's a good idea for a notary to just start stamping? They are only handling people's biggest asset! Scary thought, isn't."

TIP to serious minded SAs: Sadly enough, I am passionate about notary education. (LOL!) If you want to succeed in a business, there must be a degree of passion to make you work toward success. I love this business because it suits my personality. If you don't love it, you will not make the sacrifices necessary to get the success you desire.

Reply by Charm_AL on 3/18/05 9:13am
Msg #26238

Brenda...

and besides...Doesn't a seal bite if you put a hand on one? I'm all for education

Reply by BrendaTX on 3/18/05 9:28am
Msg #26241

Re: Brenda...

Seals are not dangerous unless they are handled by the inexperienced!

Reply by Charm_AL on 3/18/05 9:31am
Msg #26242

Re: Brenda...

LOL...Very Good! You have a great day, I'm outta here, have a few appts, and going to get some hairs dyed, get my stepson....bizzzzy weekend and nice weather expected

Reply by CaliNotary on 3/17/05 7:33pm
Msg #26140

Re: Acks vs. Jurats: Agreeing w/ Brenda

I think I love you Hugh.

Reply by CarolynCO on 3/17/05 7:42pm
Msg #26145

Re: Are you posting from the after life Cali? n/m

Reply by CaliNotary on 3/18/05 1:07am
Msg #26204

Re: Are you posting from the after life Cali? n/m

Well, having to be this nice surely makes me feel like I'm in hell so I must be!

Reply by Becca/Fl on 3/17/05 8:02pm
Msg #26153

Re: Acks vs. Jurats: Agreeing w/ Brenda

I think I love'ya both!

Reply by Becca/FL on 3/17/05 7:46pm
Msg #26147

Hugh........

You are frigg'in kill'in me!!!!!

AND Cali, warm fuzzies stink! My neck & shoulders are so tense, I can hardly stand it!

OBTW - What's an Ack?

Reply by CarolynCO on 3/17/05 7:51pm
Msg #26149

Re: Hugh........

You can just imagine how tense Cali's neck and shoulders must be! He asked how he was doing in an earlier post and I forgot to respond -- I think he's doing good.

Reply by Lisa/WI on 3/17/05 8:44pm
Msg #26160

Re: Notary Know How?!

I can understand where both sides are coming from here. I am an example of getting my notary commission and not knowing diddly squat of what the power was behind it. I was told to get commissioned to earn some extra money. The person who talked me into this said, when I questioned exactly what I would be doing, "Its not hard, there is nothing to it." I started doing my research, all over nets creation, and found out there is alot to this job. I took the advice off this forum and read my manual over and over until there wasnt any questions. ( Well, not quite, there are still a couple of things I dont have a handle on) But my point is to you new people, this website is a wealth of information, not to be taken for granted. And if you think of it this way, this is the most inexpensive education you will ever receive to start making an income that pays pretty well. Your notary manual is your bible. It tells you the whats and what nots. I even used my dictionary when I first started reading it to make sure I knew exactly what something meant. I am only grateful that somebody told me to read my manual over and over because now I can answer a question without a doubt and not second quess myself. Its a great feeling to be knowledgeable in something you are doing.

Reply by Becca/FL on 3/17/05 9:01pm
Msg #26163

Lisa/WI

You make me proud! (sniff, sniff) I love your attitude.

You really get it. You should do well for yourself.

Reply by Lisa/WI on 3/17/05 9:08pm
Msg #26164

Re: Lisa/WI-Thanx!! n/m

Reply by BrendaTX on 3/17/05 9:38pm
Msg #26171

Lisa...

You can call me anytime there is anything I can help you with. I enjoy this forum so much, but lately it has become a real battle of "old" against "new." I am so grateful to see that someone gets it! I think I'll really get crazy and celebrate with a glass of chocolate milk with triple syrup.

You have taken the same basic approach I used. I hope at the end of a year you feel as much satisfaction as I have.

What I will never understand is why people get into business without either knowing what it will take to make it work, or being willing to do whatever it takes.

The other day I was in Sam's and a woman was helplessly fitzing around with a carton of paper. She looked helplessly at me and said, "I cannot lift this by myself." Without realizing I was giving her a "mean spirited" answer (rather than hurting my back by doing the lifting for her) I said, "what I do is open it up and transfer the reams into my basket one at a time if there is not a stocker on the floor to help me." She spun around and huffed off. It's the same thing here. I tell people what I did to solve a problem, and they get peeved.

Reply by CarolynCO on 3/17/05 10:06pm
Msg #26180

Re: Brenda

**I was giving her a "mean spirited" answer (rather than hurting my back by doing the lifting for her) I said, "what I do is open it up and transfer the reams into my basket one at a time if there is not a stocker on the floor to help me." **

I guess all this warm and fuzzy stuff has confused me, but I don't see anything mean spirited about your answer to this woman.

Since the beginning of the year, I would say that we've had quite a few NNA graduates passing through. Some post for a couple of weeks to a month and then disappear. Some disappearances may have something to do with *mean spirited* responses, but I think most disappear because they find that the NNA lied to them. Additionally, what many perceive as *mean spirit* is actually the truth, and like you, I *teach* using my own experience, and usually the truth doesn't come candy-coated.

Reply by Jon on 3/17/05 11:19pm
Msg #26197

Re: Brenda

CarolynCO had a revelation:

"...I think most disappear because they find that the NNA lied to them."

You are exactly right. It is also the reason that they get upset. They just spent over $500 to take the notary class, get their supplies, and get "Certified" and they now realize that they got NOTHING for their money. They realize after one or two "mean spirited" answers that they were ripped off and that they really DON'T know what is going on. They bought into the NNA get-rich-quick scheme and are upset that the illusion didn't last longer, and how dare we happen to mention it to them!!!!

Reply by Lisa/WI on 3/17/05 10:07pm
Msg #26181

Re: Brenda

You already have helped me tremendously along with a lot of other people on this website. I have explored your website and read your posts. You are the furthest thing from being mean spirited. I will take you up on your offer if need be though. And I know exactly what you mean about people huffing off. I once found a four year old boy roaming the Walmart parking lot getting ready to cross a highway to find his dad. After talking to him for quite a while because I had to convince him I wanted to help him, I took him in to the store to have them announce for his dad. His dad huffed at me, and stormed out of the store. I was very hurt for a while. You guys are not in the wrong for sending people in a direction to learn what is very valuable. I just hope nothing real bad comes out of all this. And one more thing. Its too easy to get commissioned. It doesnt force anyone into learning their notary laws. It should be vice versa, know your notary laws and then get your commission.

Reply by CarolynCO on 3/17/05 9:49pm
Msg #26174

Re: Notary Know How?!

Daily I read about too many people who are getting in this to *earn some extra money* and, like you, have been told *it's not hard, there is nothing to it.* Granted, it's not rocket science, but as a SA, you are taking on a lot of responsibility when doing a signing. I'm so glad that you have read and read and reread and are still reading.

I only hope that the newcomers have taken out the maximum amount of E&O Insurance, because I have a feeling some will need it.

Reply by Liz/MD on 3/17/05 9:56pm
Msg #26176

Re: Notary Know How?!

I am sooooo happy you all take soooo much time on here. Thanks for all the business.

Reply by CaliNotary on 3/18/05 1:23am
Msg #26205

Re: Notary Know How?!

"I am sooooo happy you all take soooo much time on here. Thanks for all the business."

Sweetie, not all of us type as slow as you do. Some of us don't have to choose between doing a signing and posting on this board, we can actually do both in the same day.

And you're thanking a notary in Colorado for your business in Maryland? This might help:

http://www.epa.gov/enviro/gif/us_map.gif


Of course the old me would have posted a link like this:

http://www.dailywav.com/0604/onlybang.wav

But since I'm no longer the old me I would never dream of doing something so gauche.

Reply by CaliNotary on 3/18/05 1:28am
Msg #26207

Re: Hugh........

There's also a lot of clenching in an area that shall remain unnamed. We'll just say that if this keeps up I'm gonna be pooping diamonds in about a week.

Reply by Ernest_CT on 3/17/05 10:55pm
Msg #26191

So that was the grinding noise we heard here in CT! n/m

Reply by Happy_in_Fl on 3/18/05 4:50am
Msg #26214

What a wake-up call- My sides are splitting! Sooo Funny! n/m

Reply by TNNotary on 3/18/05 7:49am
Msg #26219

Re: Acks vs. Jurats

That is the same in TN. It is up to the person to let you know what they want notarized.