Posted by Anonymous on 11/17/05 6:28pm
Msg #77274

Background Checks and UPL Agreements

I have had 4 title companies within the past 2 weeks fax or email me the forms for them to perform a background check and to sign UPL agreements. They did not ask that I pay as some other cos. have. I refused to complete 1 as I just don't do enough business with them. I asked my contacts what is going on and the general consensus is that everyone else is doing it so..... Another contact said they wanted to be sure to have all their ducks in a row (for duck hunting, I don't know). Another wave of the future. I think the UPL could really get out of hand. We know how some customers can be with he said she said or simply misconstruing and/or misunderstanding what is said to them. It really would be the notary's word against the customers'. The line we walk seems to be getting finer.

Reply by NM_CO on 11/17/05 6:29pm
Msg #77275

Seriously, they NEED a background check before WE do business with THEM! lol.

Reply by Anonymous on 11/17/05 6:38pm
Msg #77276

These were all title cos., not signing services. I typically have no trouble with the title cos., but I agree with you about that in regard to SOME signing services. I don't think they need a background check as much as they do a capital in reserve/payroll/integrety check.

Reply by Ilona_OH on 11/17/05 8:58pm
Msg #77292

Please-what does UPL stand for?

Reply by PAW_Fl on 11/17/05 11:03pm
Msg #77306

UPL = Unauthorized Pactice of Law

Most notaries are not attorneys and are therefore forbidden to do things that attorneys can. Like offer legal advice and provide legal opinions. Notaries, like attorneys can lie and cheat, but it is not ethical or professional for notaries to do that.

Reply by christiSocal on 11/18/05 12:12am
Msg #77311

Hey, PAW, does that mean

It is ethical and professional for lawyers to lie and cheat? That would explain alot.

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 11/18/05 7:07am
Msg #77326

Re: Hey, PAW, does that mean

To be able to lie and cheat is a prerequisite for becoming a lawyer

Reply by Art_MD on 11/18/05 8:05am
Msg #77331

Re: Hey, PAW, does that mean

If you want to try and convince a jury that your client is innocent, dispite the video tape, 4 eyewitness, 3 DNA tests and a confession by his partner, you better know how to "hedge the truch in such a way, that the jury will believe the opposite"

Art

Reply by BetsyMI on 11/18/05 8:24am
Msg #77345

Ilona, I think UPL means Unauthorized Practice of Law. If I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will let me know. I had to guess since UPL is used often here.