Posted by Becca_FL on 9/1/05 2:25am
Msg #63194
I'm SO done with this guy
Here's the list of SSs you will find on Barry Silver's web site:
A&M Closing Service
American Signing Connection
No Rating At Home Signings, Inc.
No Rating BMK Signings
C J Signings
No Rating Coastal Closings, Inc.
No Rating Docs2U
Elite Signings
Express Notary Signing Services, Inc.
Lenders First Choice
No Rating NotariesTo Go, Inc.
No Rating Notary Direct, LLC
Notary Pro
No Rating Precision Closing Services
Prime Time Closers
Sign on the X - (SOX)
No Rating TL Signing Service
No Rating Universal Document Express
No Rating USA Signing
No Rating Vital Signing, Inc.
Whats Up Docs
I need to ask: So, you've done 650 signings and you STILL work for some of these SSs? Where are the TCs that your friend speaks of?
PEOPLE - HE HAS SOX ON HIS LIST!!!! PLEASE!
From now on, please consider the source.
| Reply by Nd_WA on 9/1/05 3:23am
Msg #63197
And I thought he was some angel with his willingness to help out the newbies by asking them to contact him.
| Reply by Barry Silver on 9/1/05 8:08am
Msg #63216
I'm SO done with this guy...But make your own decisions!
I just got off the phone with Becca. Unfortunately, she is not privy to my communications with those I have had correspodence. I am no angel, nor am I a devil with a hidden agenda, and only those who have directly communicated with me can vouch for that.
If you have a question you would like to ask, by all means ask it. It will be no different than any other people who post issues and responses.
I do not understand Becca's attack. I do not understand why she posted information in a manner that misleads everyone on this forum. I do not understand why she has been so offended, and her accusations are unfounded. IF she really wanted to know my character, she should have written an E-Mail to me like so many others to see in what manner I would have responded. I'm certain her perception of me would be quite different.
I only hope that Becca is more accurate in everything else she does than in her evaluation of me and the innuendo she has made.
| Reply by Becca_FL on 9/1/05 8:41am
Msg #63230
Re: I'm SO done with this guy...But make your own decisions!
Barry, you really should grow tougher skin. In no way was my intent to attack you. Instead, my intent was to out you, which I did. Why were you not honest with the forum from the start?
INTEGRITY NOTARY & LOAN SIGNING SERVICES, LLC
Registered Agent
Name & Address
SILVER, BARRY PAUL
2866 CARAMBOLA CIRCLE S.
COCONUT CREEK FL 33066
| Reply by Charm_AL on 9/1/05 8:46am
Msg #63232
Becca...
God help me if I ever tick you off...With this constant barrage of attacks, I believe you are advertising his business more than he is. I'm getting tired of this topic already...it's out there.
Let's move on
| Reply by Becca_FL on 9/1/05 9:02am
Msg #63239
Will do Charm
I'm just so tired of the snake oil salespeople in this business.
| Reply by Becca_FL on 9/1/05 8:23am
Msg #63221
Maybe a wolf in sheeps clothing. JMHO
| Reply by Barry Silver on 9/1/05 7:50am
Msg #63210
Then this should be your last post regarding me!
Becca,
If you are going to place information on here from my website, and mind you it is copywritten, you have the obligation to present that information accurately.
No where on my site do I state I have worked for these SS's. You also neglected to mention that some of theses companies are rated, and SOX has the lowest rating on my site.
Additionally, the site is new, and it is growing thus the SS list is a living list. You also neglected to mention that members can rate the site. Because you do not have access do all parts of the site you are not in the position to see whre else companies like SOX are listed.
PEOPLE - BEFORE YOU BELIEVE WHAT BECCA_FL PLACES HERE...CONSIDER THE SOURCE!!!
I do not know what I have said or done to her to make her openly attack like this, nor have I used this forum to openly advertise my site. I can not help but wonder what her agenda is.
Get your facts together, and govern any further actions carefully!
| Reply by Becca_FL on 9/1/05 8:28am
Msg #63223
How's this for accurate?
AND it's not copy written, it's public information.
Barry, you may have had a better fishing expedition had you been forthright and honest from the start. I just call'em like I see'em and I've seen your kind here before.
http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe?a1=DETFIL&n1=L05000051394&n2=NAMFWD&n3=0000&n4=N&r1=&r2=&r3=&r4=INTEGRITYNOTARY&r5=
INTEGRITY NOTARY & LOAN SIGNING SERVICES, LLC
PRINCIPAL ADDRESS
2866 CARAMBOLA CIRCLE S.
COCONUT CREEK FL 33066
MAILING ADDRESS
2866 CARAMBOLA CIRCLE S.
COCONUT CREEK FL 33066
Document Number
L05000051394 FEI Number
NONE Date Filed
05/18/2005
State
FL Status
ACTIVE Effective Date
NONE
Total Contribution
0.00
Registered Agent
Name & Address
SILVER, BARRY PAUL
2866 CARAMBOLA CIRCLE S.
COCONUT CREEK FL 33066
Manager/Member Detail
Name & Address Title
SILVER, BARRY PAUL
2866 CARAMBOLA CIRCLE S.
COCONUT CREEK FL 33066 MGRM
http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe?a1=DETFIL&n1=L05000051394&n2=NAMFWD&n3=0000&n4=N&r1=&r2=&r3=&r4=INTEGRITYNOTARY&r5=
| Reply by Teasa Mahar on 9/1/05 8:31am
Msg #63224
Re: How's this for accurate?
I have not seen Mr. Silver's site, but if what Becca says is true you have to pay to join his site which lists signing services that we can find anywhere of which some are lame deadbeats. Such a deal.
| Reply by Barry Silver on 9/1/05 8:55am
Msg #63236
Re: How's this for accurate?
It's true, you have not seen my site, so I hope you will make up your own mind instead of allowing Becca to make it up for you.
By the way, have you noticed the only person advertising my site, one way or the other, is Becca?
Frankly, I think that is disrespectful to the folks at Notary Rotary.
| Reply by Barry Silver on 9/1/05 8:52am
Msg #63235
Yes, the Corporate info. is accurate.
You are correct. Corporate information is public record. That has nothing to do with what you copied and printed, inaccurately, from the website.
The information you found regarding the corporate information is correct, although my accountant filed the necessary paperwork to changed the company from an LLC to an S Corp more than a month ago. I guess the state has not made the necessary change yet, so even that is not 100% accurate.
As far as posting my address and other information, what is it you're trying to prove? Anyone in this forum can click on my the link and get that information.
| Reply by hcampersFL on 9/1/05 10:16am
Msg #63274
Re: Yes, the Corporate info. is accurate.
I guess I'm not sure of the point of this? I take ever posting with a grain of salt and make up my own mind.
I went to Barry's site for myself before all this started up. I even emailed him about some marketing questions. He still hasn't replied. No big deal. Just full disclosure I my part.
Is his site one I will join? Doubtful.
As long as I've been reading this site (only since April) I haven't ever read one post from Barry about his site or services.
So he is trying to start a SS. Big deal. He hasn't asked anyone to signup with him or done anything out of line as far as I can tell.
I really think that starting all of this is in very poor taste.
People can make thier own choices AFTER looking at Barry's site.
We are all business people. We can think for ourselves.
JMO
Beverly
| Reply by Becca_FL on 9/1/05 11:14am
Msg #63297
Beverly, please read msg #62813
Barry's response was a solicitation.
| Reply by hcampersFL on 9/1/05 11:50am
Msg #63308
Re: Beverly, please read msg #62813
Becca,
I read that post but don't feel it was solicitation. He said email me. What he did or didn't discuss we aren't priviy to.
There have been many others (ss) that have said email me on this site before. It is our choice if we choose to follow that. Negretes has asked for Florida notaries many times, going so far to say he was getting a new client but couldn't revele (sp?) information at this time etc. Barry hasn't gone that far but nobody complained then. Why not?
Look I will agree that Barry's post come-off as all knowing, and that he sounds like a blow hard most of the time. I really haven't learned anything new from his post hence emailing him directly to see if there was any substance to all the reteric (no offense Barry) but I really can't agree that he is mis-leading anyone here.
If someone who has done business with him and has a complaint and wants to voice it let them. If you "think" he is up to no good show some proof of that. What his licenseing (sp?) procedures are or aren't I could care less.
This is jmo
Beverly
| Reply by CaliNotary on 9/1/05 3:27pm
Msg #63348
I'm inclined to agree with Beverly
I've read some of Barry's posts and while maybe I missed a post that's more obvious, from what I did see I didn't get the feeling of solicitation. But I do agree with the all-knowing blowhard description. I think it's fair enough on this board to refer people to your profile link for contact info. I've seen much more blatant solicitation from Negrete's, Liz at the Notary Biz, etc.
And while I understand the distinction between somebody trying to sell something to us and somebody trying to build up a notary database, I think that it's not really fair to place judgement on the value of solicitations on this board. We all have different opinions of what is a "good" solicitation vs. a "bad" solicitation. If they're not allowed then they shouldn't be here, period.
| Reply by BrendaTX on 9/1/05 1:33pm
Msg #63339
"CONSIDER THE SOURCE!!!"
**PEOPLE - BEFORE YOU BELIEVE WHAT BECCA_FL PLACES HERE...CONSIDER THE SOURCE!!!**
The source is solid, Barry.
Personally, I believe Becca is a forthright and honest person. If I needed a person I could trust and depend upon, what I have learned about Becca on the phone, via email and online is that her story always rings true.
I would work for her, employ her or loan her money, or ask her to loan me money. In other words, I would say she's not got a hidden agenda and I would trust her implicitly to shoot straight with me. So, the source is a good one, since you asked.
That's my gut feeling and opinion.
Objectively, the facts: I would consider that she has nothing to financially gain and no invested interest in starting this thread.
I have observed it is not in her character to bring up things to draw attention to herself, or to be nasty to someone for no reason...ever, actually. However, she is direct and she is a bit like me in that she likes to find out about the rest of the story. She will question things and does not get put off easily.
Again, back to my opinion, maybe she wanted to convey her concerns that it would be helpful for people to think it through critically before investing in your site for a listing. It could be that she thought if you pay so well for a signing, some might think it would benefit them to have a listing on your site. That might be why she brought this up--that should not really be a problem to anyone. People can have opinions.
If you want to discuss my comments above about Becca, please keep it on the board. I do not want to email or discuss via phone in this instance. Thank you.
| Reply by Becca_FL on 9/1/05 2:14pm
Msg #63343
Re: "CONSIDER THE SOURCE!!!"
Thanks Brenda, your check is in the mail. ;-)
| Reply by Barry Silver on 9/2/05 12:09am
Msg #63423
Re: "CONSIDER THE SOURCE!!!" Was Becca's Quote
Brenda:
I am quite surprized at your reaction. We have E-mailed back and forth on a couple of occassions. Can you honestly say that I ever sought anything from you other than accurate information about the way the SA business works in TX?
It sounds to me like you take Becca's side. You give her much credit, and you make innuendo, cleverly I might add, that what she has done is nothing more than present good information. Being the fair minded person I believed you to be, I ask you to look for any factual truth in anything Becca has said.
How many SS have come on this board and said "E-Mail me," and gone unattacked? So what is Becca's reason for the attack? I asked nothing of her! I said nothing about her! I made no solicitation to her or anyone else. In fact, I don't believe I ever paid attention to her posts until she began this ordeal. Anything people think they have learned about me or anything I do was posted by Becca, not me!
She took copywritten material and posted it here. Penalties are stiff for plagiarism. Plagiarism is theft. Does that say anything about Becca's character to you?
Becca presented bits and pieces to deliberately mislead the readers on this board. That is more offensive then the way she interpreted my use of the word "huge" regarding a comment I made about CA and E & O insurance, which is honestly what (for whatever her reason) seems to have started this hot topic. What do you say about a person's character who deliberatly tries to mislead people, Brenda?
The two of us have agreed to disagree before. I see no reaon why we can not disagree again. Keep in mind that the topic I used mirrored the topic initiated by Brenda. Since you object to my using these words, how do you feel about Becca being the person to use them against me in a totally unprovoked manner? What else does this say about her character to you?
Note I ask you what it says about character; I do not try to persuade you to believe one way or the other, unlike your friend, Becca.
After our communications several months ago, I thought you had a better opinion of me, but I guess I was wrong on that. And while I still feel you are one of the most intelligent, informative contributors on this forum, I am disappointed that you feel the way you do about me. It truly saddens me that you no longer judge by your personal experience with me, but by the way in which I respond to Becca, and I must say, I believe I have been much more civil to her than she to me.
As you do not want to have me E-Mail you anymore, or call you, I ask that you respect my request and allow this topic to die and be buried already. I've read some posts where people have had enough of it!
| Reply by Anonymous on 9/2/05 8:51pm
Msg #63576
Re: "CONSIDER THE SOURCE!!!" Was Becca's Quote
Please do us all a favor and learn to use the proper words. You say your education and background is in linguistics, then it would be expected that proper words would be used.
In many of your posts, you talk about "copywritten" materials. Well, dear sir, there is no such word, that I know of, nor can find in any dictionary, as "copywritten." If you are referring to material that has a copyright, the proper terminology would be "copyrighted" material.
An other error was the word "demigraphics." This may have been a typo, but the proper spelling is demOgraphics, which any spell checker would have found.
So don't lecture others about professionalism and spelling and proper word usage until you can use proper words and spelling. Sheesh, talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
| Reply by Barry Silver on 9/3/05 2:22pm
Msg #63645
I hope you're not a scholar.
You might want a refresher course in comprehension. I never said, "linguistics;" I said English, or perhaps British Literature and theatre.
As for the use of words, my dear, the English language is a living language, which means that it is ever growing. In short, this means that just because a word has not yet made it into a dictionary does not mean that it does not exist. It does take a long time for words to be recognized sometimes.
"Copyright" refers to the rights one has on material he has written whereas the word "copywritten" (may have a double meaning) refers to material that was written by another. Even the scholars at Harvard, Yale, and Princeton are using this term synonymously for the term "copyrighted," or is it your position that they know not of what they speak?
As for errors in writing, you would do well to keep your corrections to yourself until you have masterd the language e.g. (Latin- exempli gratia - meaning - for example):
1. "An other error was the word..." This should read, "Another error is the word..." Please make note that you not only misused the beginning words, but your verb tense is completely incorrect.
2. The best writers make typographical errors, but when you aim to correct, your correction should hit the target (this sentence is a metaphor).
I typed "demigraphics" whereas you typed "demOgraphics." I do not know where you learned the rules of capitalization, but I can certainly refer you to several sources for the correct way in which capital and lower case letters should be used for the formal English language (just let me know what grade level book to send you); and, by the way, any spellchecker, not "spell checker" would have corrected this for you.
3. Try to stay focussed on topics. You will seem like you know what you are talking about instead of meandering in a territory with which you can use some tutelage! Professionalism and the use of my language are two completely different topics. As I stated before, take the refresher course on comprehension. My posts were much more cilvil than yours as well as a couple of others, which shows great professionalism on my part, something, I must say, you lack in your post to me.
Normally, I do not respond to those who will not identify themselves. What fear do you hold, or do you really not want others to know who it is that made these errors?
I do have some friends with whom I promised a visit, so I will leave you with the aforementioned corrections to your post and ask that you let this topic die! You have sufficiently entertained me.
| Reply by TitleGalCA on 9/3/05 7:39pm
Msg #63668
Barry - having the last word doesn't support you
Back and forth posts Barry, only leads people to that oft quoted statement..."he protesteth too much".
Most of your posts lately (still responding to last week...ad infinitum...and without much substance) are just tiresome. The point was made, over and over again that you are doing nothing more than promoting yourself, and your business.
I'm sure with all your "linguistic background" you can correct me to the exact quote. However, all your 'last word' posts just have no substance at all, other than to suggest you can string several words together to make a sentence.
Were you a teacher?
| Reply by Barry Silver on 9/4/05 1:08am
Msg #63693
Empty & Baseless Attacks Do not Make TitleGalCa Right!
There again is that empty accusation. Someone attacks the way I write, in a grammatically incorrect way, I might add, and I respond for my amusement. Then comes along TitleGalCa to accuse me of self promotion and advertising a business to which I make no reference.
Tell me something TitleGalCa; why do you feel the constant need to get involved in my dialogue and direct response to others, read that which is not in the message by a long shot, and make your attack? Moreover, why do you look back several pages to involve yourself in my posts? If my posts bother you so much, then perhaps you should pay me no mind and not read them. It frightens me to believe that I am ever so present in your thoughts that you can not let a day go by without making a negative comment or a fruitless accusation at me.
Do you have nothing more positive in your day or life to do than to find someone you've never met, never conversed with, never had any experience with to pass your meaningless jusgements and baseless accusations to exaggerate your own self-importance? These types of attacks tell all the readers about the character of the attacker.
You want me to stop writing my posts, then perhaps you should stop posting your attacks. They are, to say the least, tasteless; they are, to say the most, fabrications of your own imagination. Your accusation demonstrates, as Judge Lance Ito said to John Furman, "...a wreckless disregard for the truth."
Why don't you leave well enough alone and let this topic die out already, or do you feel and believe that you must have the last word?
| Reply by taxpro on 10/28/05 7:06pm
Msg #72943
Re: Empty & Baseless Attacks Do not Make TitleGalCa Right!
Didn't you mean "reckless?" btw, I was searching for something else when I came upon this thread. I wonder if Becca realized how much attention she would give you by starting this, something I'm sure she didn't intend to do. I've never heard of you or your website, but I think I'll take a look.
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