Posted by Charles_Ca on 4/12/06 5:43pm
Msg #113140

Errata, new housing requirements

Yesterday I made a comment on this board that maximum occupancy was two persons per bedroom plus one, so that for a two bedroom home that would mean a maximum occupancy of 5. The law is still part of the code but in the last year Cities in California have stopped enforcing that provision of the code because very aggressive legal aid societies sued cities over enforcement of the code on the basis that in different cultures different densities are acceptable. I understand from my housing department that US Government and State controlled housing such as the Section 8 program still enforce those rules but they're no longer enforced for privately owned housing.

Reply by cyndi_ca on 4/12/06 5:56pm
Msg #113144

DIFFERENT CULTURES, DIFFERENT DENSITIES?????!!!!!!

Hello, I thought I lived in the USA This whole thing has gotten me so infuriated I just want to scream! I am all for the American Dream, that what it is, American. There are cities close to where I live and the children are failing in school because they don't speak english. Not enough spanish speaking teachers and so on. Why we allow this to happen drives me nuts! I love the Hispanic culture as well as many others, so it's not about being predjudice, it's about "when in Rome" If Americans were to move to another country, after many obstacles, we would have to adapt to their way of life, not expect them to change and conform to ours! OK, end of rant. Thanks Charles, my bp is way up now. j/k

Reply by NCLisa on 4/12/06 6:00pm
Msg #113145

Re: DIFFERENT CULTURES, DIFFERENT DENSITIES?????!!!!!!

There are lots of people her from different cultures that speak english just fine and yes, have 4 and 5 generations in the same household. Many of these people immigrated here many many years ago. Not all immigrants are new to the US, and not all of them don't speak English.

Reply by cyndi_ca on 4/12/06 6:27pm
Msg #113154

Really, no kidding. I know that

I recently have signed many borrowers who are of Mexican decent who have been here for many many years. One in particular I can think of was 80 years old, widowed and told me stories of how he came the US and worked in the orange groves, but he was Legally here. I don't have a problem with immigrants, I have a problem with the illegal ones. I am all for having a better life and I cannot express how grateful I am to live in the US, and yes, I was born into that, I can't stand the sense of intitlement, just because you got here doesn't mean you can do it illegally. Pay taxes and help the system rather than burden it!

Reply by NCLisa on 4/13/06 7:56am
Msg #113243

Re: Really, no kidding. I know that

I was making the point that currently, people are lumping long time immigrants into the current debate.

Reply by TitleGalCA on 4/12/06 6:02pm
Msg #113147

Re: DIFFERENT CULTURES, DIFFERENT DENSITIES?????!!!!!!

Until we say "stop" and do something about it, it will only get worse. Americans have been asleep at the wheel, involved in their own lives and careers, content to let others make the decisions. I hope it changes...I want my neice and nephew (who are half Mexican, btw) to have a good quality of life when they are adults.

Reply by ColleenCA on 4/12/06 7:45pm
Msg #113164

Re: I wanted to publicely thank Charles...

for looking into this issue for me. As I pointed out in my response email to him, I suppose that if one of the lawmakers had to live next door to a house with 25 tenants the laws might be changed right away. It is these very types of situations that make for many people born here or coming here legally become downright angry with the demands of illegal alians. Unbelievable!

Reply by Charles_Ca on 4/12/06 9:11pm
Msg #113176

Re: I wanted to publicely thank Charles...

You are most welcome Colleen, I'm just sorry that the news wasn't better. I also felt that I needed to correct a mistake I made in making the statement originally lest somone relies on it and gets burnt.

Reply by John_NorCal on 4/13/06 8:58am
Msg #113256

Re: I wanted to publicely thank Charles...

>>I suppose that if one of the lawmakers had to live next door to a house with 25 tenants the laws might be changed right away. <<

Do you suppose they would get it? I agree with a previous poster too, we have gotten too lax with our regulations. I sure as hell would not want to live next to a house 25 people lived. Believe me I have seen this first hand through a previous occupation of mine. People living in closets, garages, etc. All it does is create a blight on neighborhoods.

Reply by ColleenCA on 4/13/06 9:38am
Msg #113268

Re: Yes, John, And That Is Exactly What Is Happening In Our.

neighborhood. It has created a blight. According to our city, their hands are tied and we are just forced to live with it. I believe this type of situation is just going to get worse. I don't know what the answers are.

Reply by Charm_AL on 4/13/06 10:20am
Msg #113281

Re: I wanted to publicly thank Charles...

I saw this years and years ago in a Chicago suburb. The Martinique, two locations,
(popular dinner theater) used to employ illegals, The owner of the theater bought a house for them to live in. He gave them $1.50 an hour for labor and let them live rent free in this home. At times there were up to 40 people there. All they did was sleep on the floors, after 9-11 hour shifts. They would save up enough money and go back to Mexico, some never to return because they couldn't get past the border, but there were always replacements.