Posted by RunninDocs on 4/8/06 12:34am
Msg #112050
Shame on you -
I noticed the last few days that the regulars on this board are something to be desired. I have taken the time to research this ldd6002 notary but find that not one regular did or thought enough of TCMN to do so. For all you regulars, shame on you for not saying one word to someone you seem to have accepted their input of valuable information to put on the, what did TitleGal say, infamous 33325 post, but not one chimed in when TCMN was exposing someone for a very awful thing a person could do.
Lynne/CA (as she’s known on the goMobile board) seemed to have talked regularly with the Kelly/Joan group since her post on goMobile about maybe startnig her own 1click company. Rumor has it in the CA world that Kelly and Joan’s games might have encourage d this.
Try calling Lynne Dixon-Denman’s Signing Company and hear her business recording or maybe you cowards, I mean regulars, are just showing everyone here what would happen if they were in that situation…they would be alone.
I hope you slept well the last couple nights. What a joke.
I have a few questions though…why exactly would a company refuse service to someone if the customer really didn’t do anything wrong? And what customer would - understand – why a company would refuse service to them if they didn’t do anything wrong? And why does someone sign up as a company, as Lynne stated, to get business…but the point of getting signings woudl be for the notaries to use it, not be a notary to sign up as a companies??? Would that be a Freudian slip? And take a look at what Lynne didn’t say.
I find it odd that I couldv’e been the only intelligent one to pick up on these things. I can understand that I could be the only one with the balls to say something.
| Reply by CaliNotary on 4/8/06 12:47am
Msg #112053
OK, I've read this post 3 times
And I still have no idea what you're talking about.
I'm glad that you're intelligent enough to "pick up on these things". I just wish you were also intelligent enough to start a new thread that made a lick of sense as a stand alone topic.
| Reply by RunninDocs on 4/8/06 12:51am
Msg #112055
Re: OK, I've read this post 3 times
Msg #111827
| Reply by Marie_MD on 4/8/06 12:53am
Msg #112056
Re: OK, I've read this post 3 times
Thanks, I thought it was only me and I was very dumb.
| Reply by nsaUnion_ny on 4/8/06 1:01am
Msg #112057
I got it just fine but I read the board most days n/m
| Reply by nsaUnion_ny on 4/8/06 1:16am
Msg #112059
Re: Shame on you -RunninDocs
I see what you're saying. And you are right, not one of the regulars said a word. Like you said, they can take tcmn's input for the message for advice for newbies but that's obvious when they want something.
I am with you and the "got the stuff" to call it out. Isn't it funny how the notaries yell slander if a signing company comes to the board to tell about a crappy nsa and they gang up, but a notary seems to be able to do no wrong if they accuse a company of fraud or any misgivings, no one doubts them. I haven't researched but I can read and its the stuff between the lines like you pointed put tells a lot of the story.
| Reply by Shane_OH on 4/8/06 9:27am
Msg #112135
** Interesting Name **
Just so everyone is clear, this person is not a representative of the organizational effort that we are putting together...
Despite the name.
| Reply by nsaUnion_ny on 4/8/06 9:35am
Msg #112139
Re: Interesting Name- what's wrong with it..full didn't fit
NSA Union Mobile Team - Fully mobile with, dual tray laser and group of 14 nsa so we can get any signing you need done complete and returned effeciently. We have more than 147 years of combined experience in the lending industry. We've never refused a signing in the last 4 years and haven't had a mistake even longer than that.
Get in touch and we'll be happy to work with you on a pricing plan so that it works for both sides. With volume comes discounts. Servicing from Baldwin, to Albany to Rochester to White Plains to Syracuse and everywhere in between.
| Reply by Shane_OH on 4/8/06 10:09am
Msg #112153
- I stand corrected...
Just didn't want there to be any misunderstanding.
| Reply by MichiganAl on 4/8/06 1:28am
Msg #112062
Who's on first?
My head is still spinning trying to understand who said what to whom, so if I'm wrong correct me. But, from everything I've read, someone made an accusation, someone else came here and defended themselves, and the original person making the accusation apologized. Is there a need to rehash old news?
| Reply by CaliNotary on 4/8/06 1:49am
Msg #112069
Re: Who's on first?
I just read the thread that I was referred to and I still don't know what's going on. I can't even tell if I'm part of the group that was supposed to defent TCMN, or whether I'm part of the group that's being complained about.
Just more of the ridiculous drama that has made this board such a tedious place lately.
| Reply by Ndwa on 4/8/06 2:03am
Msg #112070
Runnin-mouth
You're one big smart A$$ without respect! That post was between TCNN and LLD. I for one respect TCNN for what s/he said that it was his/her last post and laid it to rest. Remember, there still is that "clique" of email & phone oldies have that you don't.
Go ahead divide and conquer!
| Reply by MichiganAl on 4/8/06 2:29am
Msg #112074
Ndwa, my friend
That's the point. TCNN laid it to rest, said that it was his/her last post. LLD strongly apologized, admitted the he/she messed up. Story over. The end. Why does all the drama have to be started again by this thread? It's so Jr. High School.
| Reply by LilyMD on 4/8/06 6:53am
Msg #112085
Re: Yes Al, you've said it. n/m
| Reply by FlaMac on 4/8/06 6:54am
Msg #112086
You're right..they do speak from both sides of thier mouth..
but they don't speak for the majority. All of us know who they are..and they are on the "Ignore List". Good folks looking for credible information know who's threads to skip over. Newbie's figure it out quick enough. They are people bored with work and looking for drama. They've proven that the little IQ they do have is waisted on each other's nonsense.
This site host' a huge number of readers who don't post but you can build a wonderful network of good people through email. You'll have to link your profile to your name tho It's a great way to meet professionals and it allows you to weed out the garbage.
What's most amusing is that they actually think any of us give thier "business advise" a first glance. Even a newbie knows better than to listen to someone who let's thier commission expire (probably was too busy insulting people here), someone who has no idea what's going on in the industry (they don't have the smarts to see beyond themselves) and those who write a rant about law's in state's they don't even work in.....they continually make themselves look ignorant and that's appropriate cause they are
| Reply by BP/WV on 4/8/06 8:28am
Msg #112103
Flamac
"Good folks looking for credible information know who's threads to skip over. Newbie's figure it out quick enough. "
I say - Good folks looking for credible information should skip over Flamac's posts.
| Reply by Beth/MD on 4/8/06 9:13am
Msg #112123
Re: Flamac
FlaMac ends her verbal vomit with "...they continually make themselves look ignorant and that's appropriate cause they are..."
Look, an autobiographical post!
| Reply by Charm_AL on 4/8/06 8:52am
Msg #112108
Re: You're right..they do speak from both sides of thier mouth..
***and those who write a rant about law's in state's they don't even work in.....they continually make themselves look ignorant and that's appropriate cause they are***
and especially you that doesn't know your own state laws as pointed out by PAW repeatedly....Flamac, do you ever contribute anything to the community besides your H.S. games putting everyone down? It's so foolish to waste space here like you do
And for Pete's sake already, learn how to spell or get a spell checker.
It's their NOT thier.
| Reply by PAW on 4/8/06 6:59am
Msg #112087
Re: Shame on you - You don't have all the facts
You only see what is here, in the public view. You are basing your opinion on incomplete information. From the outside, it appears that an accusation was made, it was refuted, there were apologizes made. End of story. What's the problem?
There are many, many issues that are not to be brought out in the public view. I think this was one of the them and LDD and TCMN probably had many more exchanges via land line and email that what you can read on line. It's so easy to misconstrue and totally jump off the deep end when you don't have the full picture. A single statement can cause all kinds of thoughts and responses, that may be unfounded, but subject to fantasy and bloated opinions.
So, are you still beating your spouse? (Rhetorical question!)
| Reply by FlaMac on 4/8/06 7:05am
Msg #112092
The TCMN thread is 111827. n/m
| Reply by Kelly M Robertson on 4/8/06 10:27am
Msg #112160
Hey! Don't Involve Me Runnin Docs in Your Idiot Theory
I don't know Lynn or you or anything about a signing company or talking regularly with anyone. What the heck you are talking about. Games??? You say you're the only intelligent one to pick up on these things? Balls? For what? I guess to be talking out of your a**. I don't mind challenges but ridiculous, made-up stories ABOUT ME is not anything I'm gonna put up with. Keep your idiot theories to yourself and don't involve me.
| Reply by RunninDocs on 4/8/06 11:45am
Msg #112183
really Kelly ? just like Joan doesn't post annon ever
goMobile conversation on Mar 10th/11th ring any bells?
Service Question - Lynne/CA March 10, 2006, 4:00 pm
Re: Great Idea Lynne - Kelly R/So Cal March 11, 2006, 5:44 am
Robofill - Joan A Bergstrom March 11, 2006, 10:20 am
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm Kelly doesn't know Lynne, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, nothing made up..................
| Reply by Kelly M Robertson on 4/8/06 3:58pm
Msg #112218
I Don't Know Lynn
And I don't know what you're talking about. Why not email Lynn directly and just get it over with? But anyhow, try to get a life while your business is slow again this month, and many, many thanks for the hits - really appreciate the business kelly
| Reply by BrendaTx on 4/10/06 4:27am
Msg #112405
Re: really Kelly ? just like Joan -> RunninDocs
I slept nearly all day on Sunday so guess who is up nearly all of tonight? I am uploading photos and flipped back to see what I missed on Sat/Sun.
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RD, You are also posting anon-that's quite okay but it's not very accurate to imply that using a handle that no one recognizes is anything any different than posting anon. It just means that you know if you post anon your IP will show up. You merely added a handle.
I went and read these posts of Kelly's and Joan's that you find offensive and it looks to me like just a handful of orphan posts. What am I missing? In fact, it seems like Joan is saying people can use Robofill rather than use a 1click type of service. How would that make Joan a friend of Lynne's? I think it belies the theory you have that there is a conspiracy here that Joan and Kelly are involved in. If you have additional proof of this, please do bring it.
I was amazed when I read this post because there is something more significant yet--I have a personal email from last week with this same information in it. Almost verbatim, but I digress!
It is unnecessary to put the cowards, uh, oh...you meant the regulars down for not coming to someone's defense in this context...IMHO - I went back to check and see how the regular you feel was let down was posting. I looked over these posts. And it's not like everyone else cannot do the same and draw their own conclusions.
As a regular/coward of this forum I can also form opinions on this topic. I do not agree with your rant at my contemporaries...those who, like me, are just cowardly regulars.
Speaking of my own posting activities, of course, I know this...you cannot expect the rest of the forum to rush in and save your hummingbird butt when you have opened up your alligator mouth. If you draw "first blood" (yes, stolen from John Rambo) you have to expect to bear the consequences. Sometimes it is worth it and sometimes it is not.
No one really cares about what is going on here unless it's of interest to them or unless it involves them. It's not like life and death. It is a notary forum, for Pete's sake. We vent, we move on. Most of us do, anyhow.
You put us down because there was no uprising to defend another one here. Well, that's ashame because you see...there are but a very few who have deserved forum riots in their favor...no I am not one...Sylvia comes to mind, but no others at the moment.
It is so very silly to expect people to do the incredible research you have on a mere stranger's behalf -- "stranger" is ASSUMED. Anything other than a "stranger" relationship would cancel out the purpose of your post as most people reading this thread have no idea who is being discussed here. You'd be shaming people without a shred of credibility if it were otherwise.
Do not underestimate the woman behind the TCMN handle. Do not do her the injustice of acting as if she is helpless and cannot defend her position. She can and will arise to her own defense and do it well - no need for you pitying her or feeling sorry for her.
I assure you that TCMN is well able to take care of herself, just as I am able to take care of myself. I doubt that she'd like this very much. Just IMHO. Do you know for certain she wanted all the regular cowards to jump on board for her defense? Would she want you to put everyone down on her behalf?
Since she is done posting here, I guess we will never know.
| Reply by RunninDocs on 4/10/06 1:34pm
Msg #112503
Re: really Kelly ? just like Joan -> Brenda
........I was amazed when I read this post because there is something more significant yet--I have a personal email from last week with this same information in it. Almost verbatim, but I digress!.....
I've never emailed you so unless the verbatim is an exaggeration then I find that hard to believe and I should be the one amazed.
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......Do you know for certain she wanted all the regular cowards to jump on board for her defense? ........
Nope. Not certain at all. I read the board and I, as an independant thinker, don't just jump on the NR bandwagon and start bashing the first time someone makes a claim or warns of their bad experience they had to join-in on the bad company chants. I observe and haven't posted in a long time. I had my membership a long time ago and when Harry cancelled the members not updating, I never checked or bothered with it, you could read it either way.
But being that my father was an attorney, I don't just ASSume, I do my own research. Being that my father was a corporate business attorney, I think it's probably a reason that I take a minute to further look at claims against companies when fraud is mentioned and probably has something to do with why I thought to speak up.
So, no, I didn't speak with TCMN to know if it would be okay to speak on their behalf, but rather I think that my post was about the actions of the board members, or lack of, or actions that might be considerate. Seems to me that your message # 97749 would support my reasoning as to why it is that regulars will and do think that they should /will be supported and take a look at the individuals that posted, names seem regular to you at all? But I guess that I will be wrong if you see fit to say it, your groupies will rise up even if you tell them not to - forum riot of KH referrence-. Wouldn't your statement below kind of be contrary to when you accused KH of being your stalker and being mean to him, and everyone else followed as well (not to say he wasn't acting in a manner that was very questionsable, but people do that when threatened) but then you are leaving for a month, then the next day you apologize to him, praise his obvious sincerity and then you can watch your group follow. Some still were hesitant but they welcomed because you did. That would be an example of standing together.
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..........Speaking of my own posting activities, of course, I know this...you cannot expect the rest of the forum to rush in and save your hummingbird butt when you have opened up your alligator mouth. If you draw "first blood" (yes, stolen from John Rambo) you have to expect to bear the consequences. Sometimes it is worth it and sometimes it is not. .......
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Did you ever make the month of not posting? -retorical question- You said TCMN is done posting on NR, did she say that? I thought the message read ....it could be the last... but at least for for awhile....oooops - some time, wouldn't want to put words into anyones mouth.
Or is it that you know something no one else does?
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..........Would she want you to put everyone down on her behalf?..........
Honestly, I don't know. I didn't say I personally knew TCMN or asked permission, I merely talked about the posts that I have read, then observed that unless you are PAW/FL, CHARM/AL, BRENDA/TX, TITLEGAL, CALINOTARY, BECCA/FL, HUGH etc., etc. I think someone called you the *Clique* or something like that, then you guys sure don't speak up for anyone else. (and the "Clique" reference, probably comes from your self-proclaimed ...."I told my off forum group about it. "..... in message # 100707)
Even if that person is someone who seems in most the part helpful and isn't in the board everyday posting "Good Morning America, let's have a survery to make sure that I get the biggest thread going and to see that everyone else isn't working much like me, or better yet, let's post everyone's birthday so that we can make each other feel special."Don't get me wrong but I do think some can brighten a mood but really the ratios for that is not good on this board.
About your comment on "put everyone down", well I didn't put everyone down, I said the regulars. I didn't say newbies, or anyone else, I was quite specific. And, I do not speak for anyone but myself. I never referenced that the words I spoke were from anyone else even once.
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....No one really cares about what is going on here unless it's of interest to them or unless it involves them. ......
When I read the posts made, referring to my original post starting this thread, I think if you go back from the start when Lynne accused 1click, was it not TCMN who stated ...that people involved should really only be posting and that others have nothing no reason to judge and they should be careful of what they say. - Now it's not a quote, but if you read it you should know.
Now, what interest did it have to them, since they were not interested in posting when Lynne seemed to ask if anyone knew about the company (and I might add, she didn't get a response the first time and then posted a second, then purchased, then cried fraud publically, but I read that TCMN said that - this is a quote now, I don't want to screw this up -
"...They are an individual that was able to email with no problem “other” requests to the company but never once a “help” type of email because of fear of a fraudulent act....."
And who involved Glenn to be the un-experienced detective? I can tell you this, from experience of listening to my father, you better know your shit before making slanderous remarks like that. I agree that what he said was very irresponsible and if Glenn thinks his statement was positive on his part...I would get a second opinion.
Oh forgot you said something about moving on, to...
Did you move on....took a year for the KH thing and everytime you thought it was him posting or associated with a post you put your two cents in even accussing Debbie/MA of being him. Then again everyone followed - including Shane called and hungup on the lady. Holy crap is that not insane.
But SarahBeth is an expert at moving on, you should ask her. I think TCMN was wrong and shouldn't have brought up something private, and it's not an excuse, but I think it's can go in the same group as when YOU were absolutely paranoid that everything KH said was out for you and you said things that any person who is pushed, threatened, accused or stalked would most definately have a chance of doing. It is quite apparent that SarahBeth pushed because if I still remember, TCMN ignored it in the fraud thread but SarahBeth kept it going.
if I'm wrong, let me know.
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..........I went and read these posts of Kelly's and Joan's that you find offensive and it looks to me like just a handful of orphan posts. What am I missing?..........
I did not say offensive, I said the Kelly lied, she has spoken to Lynne and I would think it wasn't too long ago to forget such a uncommon topic. And I also said -rumor has it- so I have no proof, never said I did, I was just pointing out a lie. And didn't Kelly or someone say contact her for some list or somthing? I would think that if Lynne was so eager for getting work that she would've and would that not be more than one occassion that she talked with someone and cause a little ease of remembering? If you are a teaching this stuff i sure hope the heck you can remember things longer than a couple weeks or so.
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So, that's all Brenda with response, but
Speaking of that....
I think after coming home from a short trip and going through even the rest of the thread I started I seem to agree with TitleGal on something from her message 112233...
.....they have a business concept and exploring it is just fine in these United States of America...unless there are new rules about capitalism that I am not aware of...
would be what I consider fair for everyone. And might that not apply to 1click and their business, - or are there too many that we don't need another? - a dig, I'm sorry.
The thing that I do not agree with in TitleGal's post is this....
Address the issue not the person. Well, when it comes to Joan and Kelly... I see people addressing the issues, when it applies to the person. I didn't think anyone said they can't have a business, they had issues with the information not correct, and from what their business does is give information, wouldn't they be in direct connect to each other and thus needing to address both in the same?
TitleGal is on the right track though and it's nice to see some more individualization and independant thinking.
Hope I got it all. I need a break mayself.
| Reply by hcampersFL on 4/8/06 12:12pm
Msg #112187
Re: Hey! Don't Involve Me Runnin Docs in Your Idiot Theory
Now RunninDocs you know Kelly wouldn't do ANYTHING unprofessional? Right?
B.
| Reply by RunninDocs on 4/8/06 4:42pm
Msg #112226
hcampersFL - you crack me up!
of course not, not the self-proclaimed wonder twin teachers...Kelly R and Joan B.
I'd be fearful of what you learned those classes. Kinda reminds me of the Victoria Ring as well. Sell, sell, sell, and just don't look back.
| Reply by TitleGalCA on 4/8/06 5:07pm
Msg #112233
Here's the Thing...
I'm the first one to say that the business principles of churning out notaries in California is not good. Not good at all, and since I'm *somewhat* affected, I'm interested in the problem.
However, frankly it's pissing me off this campaign on this board against Joan Bergstom and Kelly Robertson.
They both know what they are doing. They both are PAYING members of Notary Rotary. They have the right and ability to post here. And they are both Business Women.
Further they are professionals and successful at what they do - there is a need, they are filling it. It's called *Business* a very popular concept. Find a need, fill it, and you are in business. I DON'T CARE WHAT THE BUSINESS IS...the porn business also fills a need.
It's fine and dandy to engage them (JB and Kelly) in good debate. It's fine and dandy to post your opinion.
It is NOT fine and Dandy, IMO to mount this campaign of ganging up and throwing garbage. I like Beverly alot. In fact, if I could find her site on Ebay, I'd buy her dog clothes. I don't know a whit about Signing Docs.
For the record, IMO:
There are too many notaries in California.
Joan Bergstrom is a decent teacher. Not PERFECT, but better than most.
Kelly Robertson and her partner have a business concept and are exploring it. That is just fine in these United States of America...unless there are new rules about capitalism that I am not aware of.
Address the issues, please, not the individuals.
| Reply by TitleGalCA on 4/8/06 5:14pm
Msg #112235
whoops, meant "Signing Docs" n/m
| Reply by TitleGalCA on 4/8/06 5:21pm
Msg #112238
Shame on you - Running Docs n/m
| Reply by TitleGalCA on 4/8/06 5:22pm
Msg #112239
Shame on you - Running Docs
Please articulate what your issue is... I read your first post several times and still don't get it, and I'm not stupid.
What is the problem?
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