Posted by NotaryGirl71 on 4/30/06 12:33pm
Msg #116845

Thank You Signing Companies

I just wanted to thank all the signing companies who have given me business this past year....I have worked for about 20 different companies and I realize that by accepting jobs thru signing companies I am not able to make as much as if I were to go direct myself...but because of them I have been able to support myself and make pretty good money while also marketing for myself.

A lot of people complain about signing companies low-balling fees on this web-site...but remember you don't have do accept jobs from them...we are all independent contractors and we all have the luxery of saying yes or no.

Typically I get between 60 to 75 assignments a month from signing companies plus a few from myself. The people that are going directly thru me is growing so eventially I will not have a need to work for signing companies...or just not as much...but for now I am VERY thankful to them and understand they must keep a cut to run their business, pay their employees, and do marketing for more business.

I would list all of them here but then I would be giving up my list of my loyal clients that I have worked very hard at getting business from this last year.

My advice to everyone who complains about signing companies...Don't accepts jobs from them...this just means more jobs for me and others who truly appreciate the opportunity to work with them.

Again...once my business builds to a point where I don't need them...of course I would be crazy to accept a signing from them when if I did one for myself I would make twice as much...but for now I am truly greatful!!!

Thank you to all my signing companies!!!

Reply by BrendaTx on 4/30/06 12:35pm
Msg #116847

I too am grateful to my clients. When I say thanks, I make sure they can figure out who I am.

Reply by NotaryGirl71 on 4/30/06 12:40pm
Msg #116848

Trust me they know who I am!!!

Reply by BrendaTx on 4/30/06 12:41pm
Msg #116849

Re: Thank You Signing Companies - I figured as much. n/m

Reply by JanelWI on 4/30/06 1:41pm
Msg #116862

Re: This is a perfect example of why we need standarized

fees regarding SS's. Why should we HAVE to say no? Why should we be bartered down like an item from a flea market? We are all SA aren't we? Don't we have a responsibility to each other to stick together and set a standard that has integrity? Isn't that worth more than $50? I feel it is.

This is an industry created by the need for mobile work. The responsibility isn't any less from SS to Title Company. You are building a business and that is great. But for areas unlike yours. (not sure where you are from) 60 to 75 calls from signing services when the average drive one way is 45 to 50 miles is just insanity. You spend more time on the road than making any money. Consider the price of gas etc..it would be financial suicide. I am also building a business, but I also pay attention to profit and loss, I only take those kinds of jobs if no travel is involved.

SS's don't educate themselves; they think every signing is right around the corner. I don't take pride is bashing a SS. I am a fan of realism. I may be building a business but I am highly insulted when I get asked to drive 58 miles one way for $50. Yes of course I say no. But one week later I am getting called at a fee I will accept to fix it. So the writing is on the wall. You get what you pay for in some instances. I am highly flexible and will work with many signing services. I depend on them too as you do. Just because of the area I live and work in. But this does not mean more jobs for you. It just means that you work cheaper in some cases than others. Plain and simple.

I set my fee fairly according to the knowledge I possess and the work ethic I have and the type of loan requiring my services. Not because a SS or Title Company can pay more. I charge the same for both based on base fee including travel, docs and time. I don't ever consider a SS expendable at some point. I use them all and they all get treated the same. This is what we as SA's don't get from SS's. However I have found that it opens the way naturally for those who will meet my fee. So there isn't the factor of not needing them at some point. They either meet my fee or they don't. They are as valuable to me as a Title Company/Escrow Firm or Lender. JMHO

Reply by NotaryGirl71 on 4/30/06 1:52pm
Msg #116865

Re: This is a perfect example of why we need standarized

FYI

I am in Santa Clara County California and cover 17 cities and never drive more than 25 miles each way...in fact most of my signings are far less...plus I drive a hybrid and write off all my mileage.

Reply by Teddog_CO on 4/30/06 2:02pm
Msg #116866

NotaryGirl 71-You sound just like a ss. LOL n/m

Reply by LkArrowhd/CA on 4/30/06 2:20pm
Msg #116870

Re: NotaryGirl 71-You sound just like a ss. LOL

I'm sorry Teddog but you are too clever........

Reply by BrendaTx on 4/30/06 4:03pm
Msg #116887

Re: NotaryGirl 71-You sound just like a ss. LOL

That was my point - Teddy's I mean...however, I just don't have the huevos that Teddog and Lee, Lawrence and a few others do.

Reply by LawrenceOK on 4/30/06 2:17pm
Msg #116869

Well now NotaryGal 71

I would like to see you make a profit in my area even with your hybrid. I am so damn rural I still see injuns and tepees and in some places we still use smoke signals. $40 and $50 dollar signings will get you nowhere around these parts.

Reply by LkArrowhd/CA on 4/30/06 2:26pm
Msg #116873

Re: Well now NotaryGal 71-In reality and forgive me Ms.

Hybrid, I need to get one of them there automobiles, in the real world perhaps your calculator is off a bit.....profit....hummmmmmm I just don't see it unless it's in your backyard but not over 25 miles one way. No way Jose......
Most of us old broads have been around the block a time or two, we ain't buying....

Reply by LawrenceOK on 4/30/06 2:38pm
Msg #116874

Re: Well now NotaryGal 71-In reality and forgive me Ms.

Maybe I shouda said $40 or $50 bucks won't even buy firewood for smoke signals.

Reply by JanelWI on 4/30/06 5:08pm
Msg #116891

Re: NotaryGirl71, if that is all you got out of what I said,

then I truly wasted my breath. Live and learn I guess.

Reply by BrendaTx on 4/30/06 4:02pm
Msg #116885

Re: This is a perfect example of why we need standarized

I love it: "I am a fan of realism."

My fee quoted to an SS is the same I quote to a TC. Lenders maybe a little higher than that depending on the situation.

Reply by JanelWI on 4/30/06 5:14pm
Msg #116892

Re: Hey Brenda glad I could provide a chuckle:-)

Even if they don't pay it. I will still be called eventually to fix it! HA! It all comes out in the wash.

Reply by BrendaTx on 4/30/06 5:27pm
Msg #116899

Re: Hey Brenda glad I could provide a chuckle:-)

No, I am serious! I do like the quote. I am also a fan of realism.

Reply by JanelWI on 4/30/06 5:33pm
Msg #116902

Re: Hey Brenda glad I could provide a chuckle:-)

Oh thanks! I just base my fees on the basics....area, work, experience, travel. I always thank the TC or SS for the work provided when I deal with them. To me that is what gets you ahead in the REAL world, hence realism. I won't ever thank a SS for a lowball offer. Not to sound like Nancy Regan, but I just say no:-)

Reply by Dee_Fla on 5/1/06 2:02pm
Msg #116996

Re: This is a perfect example of why we need standarized

Reply by Brenda/CA on 4/30/06 4:32pm
Msg #116890

NotaryGirl71,
I would rather have 25-30 signings a month @ $100.00 then 60-75 at $50.00. You can thank them all you want, you are only helping them put more $$ in their pocket. And, once your business builds the lowball fees you accept now will be the going rate.

Reply by HARRY_PA on 4/30/06 5:16pm
Msg #116894

Standardization is for employees or union members. Compete with your skill and experience, I like the idea that I need not accept every assignment. I'm not insulted by the lowball offers; I just don't take them, No need for rudeness. Atll things to their season.

Reply by JanelWI on 4/30/06 5:21pm
Msg #116895

Re: I wasn't trying to be rude, sorry you took it that way. n/m

Reply by BrendaTx on 4/30/06 5:32pm
Msg #116901

Re: I wasn't trying to be rude, sorry you took it that way.

Janel, Though I may not agree with every point in your posts or anyone's posts, it's okay to have an vigorous opinion.

Reply by Roger_OH on 4/30/06 5:25pm
Msg #116898

Right On, Harry

The beauty of being an IC is the ability set our own rates based upon OUR business plans and the market forces and variables at work in our particular area, not the least of which is all the starry-eyed newbies being manufactured weekly by NNA, who have fallen for all the NNA promises.

But no one is going to tell me what I can or can't charge. My business, experience and expertise is different from other SAs in my area (and others around the country, for that matter) and that's what makes me able to compete.

Reply by BrendaTx on 4/30/06 5:30pm
Msg #116900

I am trying to figure out what you thought was rude. Can you elaborate?

Reply by Teddog_CO on 4/30/06 5:58pm
Msg #116904

BrendaTx

What the Hay! Brenda the place our profession is at this point please feel free to say what you want. Rude? About what ? Folks like our ss friend trying to "Stuff" that line of horse hockey down your throat just make me want to Flip!
Like Lawrence said where we live nothing is close. $40 or $50 bucks is a slap in the face, so I say we should have the right to"slap back!" Even illegal aliens have the right to protest.

Reply by HARRY_PA on 4/30/06 7:37pm
Msg #116911

Re: BrendaTx

Signing companies that you feel are trying to stuff low rates down your throat may have taken good care of you in the past and they may in the future. They have found what they think is their competitive niche. If you find their offers insulting, move on. When I turn them down they do not threaten me with grievous harm. I just can't find it in me to be angry with them. To each his own. God bless.
Harry

Reply by BrendaTx on 4/30/06 9:12pm
Msg #116912

Re: BrendaTx - Harry - But what was rude? It was opinion...

I thought. Even though I think God gets a little over utilized here when people want to back out of something gracefully, nonetheless, God Bless you, too, Harry. That's just my opinion. It's not rude, it's just what I think.

Reply by HARRY_PA on 5/1/06 8:41am
Msg #116939

Re: BrendaTx - Harry - But what was rude? It was opinion...

bs n/m

Reply by BrendaTx on 5/1/06 8:55am
Msg #116941

Re: BrendaTx - Harry - But what was rude? It was opinion... n/m

Reply by BrendaTx on 5/1/06 9:04am
Msg #116944

Re: BrendaTx - Harry - But what was rude? oops...misfired..

Reply by HARRY_PA on 5/1/06 9:22am
Msg #116949

Re: BrendaTx - Harry - But what was rude? oops...misfired..

Reply by BrendaTx on 5/1/06 9:26am
Msg #116951

Re: BrendaTx - Harry - But what was rude? oops...misfired..

Reply by Brenda/CA on 5/1/06 12:13pm
Msg #116976

Re: Harry

I was one of the people that responded to the original message yesterday in regards to the fees. You said "It's people responding to fees they don't like as described here that comes across as being rude", I don't consider it being rude! It was my opinion, which I am entitled to. "Rude"="Harry"

Reply by Dee_Fla on 5/1/06 2:08pm
Msg #116998

Re: Thank You Signing Companies