Posted by Ldd6002_CA on 4/5/06 1:04pm
Msg #111256

WARNING!! FRAUD ALERT! BEWARE

After researching 1 Click Registry, it is a fraud. Do not use it for signing up with loan signing companines.

BEWARE

Reply by Drakester_IA on 4/5/06 1:10pm
Msg #111261

Thanks for the heads up

Reply by Ldd6002_CA on 4/5/06 1:12pm
Msg #111262

I plan to post this alert weekly to keep us safe. There are to many companies praying on the unsuspecting.

Reply by Sherri_NWA on 4/5/06 1:18pm
Msg #111263

Just curious, what kind of research did you do?

Not questioning you, just wondering how you found out it was a fraud.

~Sherri

Reply by Ldd6002_CA on 4/5/06 1:32pm
Msg #111272

Re: Just curious, what kind of research did you do?

I am a dumb, stupid, idiotic victim of it. And it was recommended by a person from the Notary Rotary family.

You take some HARD KNOCKS, but each day you learn something new.

I can email you the response I received from the website if you like, they have some..shall we say...... very graphic url listings.

Reply by LisaV on 4/5/06 3:09pm
Msg #111292

Re: Just curious, what kind of research did you do?

LDD-

I believe 1 click to be a wonderful idea, and am planning on signing up myself.

I would love to see the emails you speak of. Can you forward to me @ [e-mail address] please?

Reply by TCMN on 4/5/06 1:52pm
Msg #111274

I think you are mistaken and should beware yourself

Please advise the reason you have made such statements. They can be taken as fraudulent and slanderous.

Reply by Glenn Strickler on 4/5/06 2:07pm
Msg #111275

Re: I think you are mistaken and should beware yourself

Hmmmm,

I just went to the site, had a look around and there are a couple of red flags that I see.

1. Its not a secure server when it comes to putting in your credit card number (you can set your browser to tell you)

2. They want $200 dollars and it doesn't say why

3. When you try to sign up as a company on the front page, it doesn't work

4. On credit card payments, it takes any old number, it is not checked to see if it is valid.

5. The IP address appears to be somewhere offshore however, I have to leave and don't have time to play with it right now. I will look at later this evening.

So I would say if anyone gave them their credit card number, SS# (you should be using a tax ID number, not your SS#) you may have a problem. But I am not an expert.

That being said, in my humble opinion, if it doesn't show on the first page of Google, Yahoo, Ask.com or any other major search engine when notary is typed in, why bother with it? Especially at $200

Reply by TCMN on 4/5/06 2:37pm
Msg #111284

What's your problem Glenn???

1. There is no IP address from a foreign country, its an IP registered in Arizona
2. $200 is stated as to what it's for...please read the site...its for sending your information and registering you with more than 200 companies at once.
3. I just tested and I was able to register my 3 businesses. Works fine
4. I tried a fake credit card number and it wouldn't take it, but when I used my credit card, it worked fine. The sercure server doesn't show up because the one owner was switching from their secure server to the hosting companies secure server for ease.
5. I also was able to use everyone of the contact emails on the contacts page and had no problem what-so-ever.

Is this a joke or something? Or do you seriously not know how to run a computer?

Reply by Lee/AR on 4/5/06 2:39pm
Msg #111285

http vs. https

When you are on a site, if, at the top of your screen the address is shown as http://(etc.), it is NOT a secure site. A secure site will be shown as: https://(etc.). Watch for that little s.
I have noticed many sites where we are asked to 'sign up' that are NOT secure, but want your SS# or EIN. Be careful... it's a jungle out there.

Reply by TitleGalCA on 4/5/06 5:41pm
Msg #111350

Re: http vs. https - I didn't know that

Thanks for that info! It never occurred to me the reason for the "s". Learn something new every day.

Reply by Ldd6002_CA on 4/5/06 4:00pm
Msg #111312

Re: I think you are mistaken and should beware yourself

I have been contacted by the owner and have forwarded the information to them.

Reply by Ldd6002_CA on 4/5/06 4:21pm
Msg #111319

Re: Please Advise

I have been contacted by the owner of the company. I have forwarded the information to them for resolution. Upon completion of their investigation, I will post the result and hopefully a statement of great integrity about the company and a full retraction. I believe someone corrupted their website, thankfully someone from the board contacted the owner, and I was able to speak with them. They are researching what has happened.

Reply by Russ Burnett on 4/5/06 2:55pm
Msg #111288

Re: WARNING!!! ***From the developer***

Sir,
I think you better check what you are saying before you talk about something you obviously know nothing about. I am the developer of the website and everything you said with the exception one thing is false. There was a mistake with the security certificate and that will be remedied shortly, however this is a U.S. Based server. The owner of the site is a very respectable notary herself and had a great idea to save people time when registering with signing services. If you didn't read what the $200 is for, then you’re an idiot. (See FAQ's page) If you put in an invalid credit card it says, "The credit card number is invalid." This means it is checking the C.C. number. (Brilliant I tell you!) If you sign up as a real company, it does work. If you’re not a valid signing service you get deleted. (It's not for bored people with nothing better to do than make slanderous comments about another person’s website) As far as pulling up on the first page, I don't see you site anywhere close either. In fact, if you do the math, only 10 companies make the first page of the search engines and out of 14,900,000 people under the word notary, this means that only a very small percentage will ever make it there. (I would hope you have the education to do the math on that.) I wish you luck on being a notary sir, however please leave the web design to the real professionals. You don't see me running around telling you how to stamp something now do you? If you have something worth my time to say, please feel free to contact me. Thanks, Russ

Russ Burnett
[e-mail address]
307-789-2823

Reply by Ldd6002_CA on 4/5/06 3:58pm
Msg #111309

Re: WARNING!!! ***From the developer***

I have faxed all of the information to the owner, regarding what I recieved via email. It should be there within the next minute.

Reply by Anonymous on 4/5/06 4:46pm
Msg #111324

Re: WARNING!!! ***From the developer*** n/m

Reply by SarahBeth_CA on 4/5/06 5:08pm
Msg #111332

Russ

It's possible that there was an issue with your site or whatever link might have been used to get there. It's also possible that there could be an honest mistake. Glenn has achieved a good deal of success in this field and has proven his knowledge and professionalism time and again on these boards. You have proven yourself unprofessional. Glenn didn't tell you how to design your site he just stated what happened when he tried to go to it. If anyone here looks like an idiot it's the one who entered the boards for the first time and acted like a complete horses rear end. That would be you Russ.

Reply by Ldd6002_CA on 4/5/06 5:22pm
Msg #111339

Re: Site Problem-SarahBeth

Thank you for your statement SarahBeth. I am sincerely hoping that all turns out well. I know I was dumb to register, without researching a phone number, address, contact information for a live person. But you can believe I have learned my lesson.

Reply by SarahBeth_CA on 4/5/06 5:32pm
Msg #111346

Ldd

I hope things turn out well also. I hope the companies web site turns out ok (if they turn out to be reputable). I hope you don't get suckered. I hope no other fool thinks attacking Glenn is professional. And I hope Russ removes his head from his rear end.

Reply by MB_AZ on 4/5/06 5:29pm
Msg #111342

Re: Attn> Developer

You picked the wrong forum to slam a notary. That was unprofessional of you to come on here and slam Glenn for trying to do research to cover our behinds. I wouldn't even consider signing up with 1 Click Notary or whatever the site is and I wouldn't recommend any SS or other SA spending the outrageous amount of $200.

Reply by Russ Burnett on 4/5/06 5:43pm
Msg #111354

Re: Attn> Developer

I'm really sorry that you all have the wrong idea as to what I was doing. If you look at all his statements, he only had one out of six right. You call that respectable? It's great he does research, but please get all the facts before posting a statement for all the world to see. I was in no way slamming notaries. You would never see me make un-retractable statements until I knew they were 100% accurate. I'm sorry to all the people who like Glenn that I offended. I was just protecting my client by stating facts, and yes I was a little frustrated at comments made by someone who hadn't truly done their homework on the subject.

Reply by Ldd6002_CA on 4/5/06 5:45pm
Msg #111355

Re: Attn> Developer

Have you received copies of the emails that I sent to the owner yet?

Reply by Russ Burnett on 4/5/06 6:11pm
Msg #111365

Re: Attn> Developer

Yes I have. This hasn't happened before your transaction so I will look into it and find out what is up. This is where the work of hackers come into play and why I am currently switching to new fire wall protected servers. I appologize for all the problems and will get it fixed right away. If you would like to use the service after this is fixed, I will pay for it. Please don't let this error reflect negatively on the owner of the site. Thanks, and I'll be in contact in the next day or so. -Russ

Reply by Ldd6002_CA on 4/5/06 6:24pm
Msg #111379

Ldd6002_CA to Russ

Thank you very much Russ. As you can see from the content and url included, it was upsetting.

Reply by SarahBeth_CA on 4/5/06 5:49pm
Msg #111358

Russ

You called Glenn and idiot, that could hardly be defined as "in no way slamming". You do owe Glenn an apology. I already know what happened but I will let Glenn address it as I don't want to speak for him and I know he will reply.

Reply by Russ Burnett on 4/5/06 6:12pm
Msg #111366

Re: Russ

I have spoken with Glenn via e-mail and we have both appologized for jumping the gun.

Reply by JanelWI on 4/5/06 6:06pm
Msg #111362

Re: Attn> Developer

Wow Russ. There are a million different ways to say what you said. You could have taken the high road and stated the facts without slamming. If you are protecting your clients interest you just sunk it further. You were mixing the facts with your own inflated frustations. This didn't help your client. When speaking for someone else or taking it upon yourself to do so this requires a greater amount of professionalism. If I was that owner I would be upset.

Reply by BrendaTx on 4/5/06 6:09pm
Msg #111363

Re: Attn> Developer - To 1 Click whatever thread...

Call me crazy, but I have seen this technique used for advertising...the reverse method of getting attention. This is one way to circumvent the rules. It works all the time.

It's a common thing which is done...I know this thanks to another notary who pointed it out on a different forum.

Interesting...new people showing up to fuss out of the blue. Cannot help but wonder.

Reply by TCMN on 4/5/06 6:44pm
Msg #111391

Brenda...

I know that I need to call you and haven't since I have been busy, BUT I WILL I PROMISE.

In response to your post...this is not a advertising technique, not on 1clickregitry's part. I have known of this resource and have NOT posting anything of it because I was connected to is because of respect for NotRot and its rules. Even though it is not a directory or database of notaries as NotRot is but just plain ethics in business.

I'll call you later tonight though.

Reply by BrendaTx on 4/5/06 7:35pm
Msg #111404

Re: Brenda...I feel pretty...Ty's going to call! J/k.

Hi there Ty...No, this registry is not in competition exactly with NotRot. It is a business and it is a business which could make NotRot's Premier membership offerings not so necessary. Thus NR would probably yell if it was just put up on the forum.

I am always reading and finding out about making money different ways and I am sure you have seen ads for forum content writers.

Yep - you develop a few sock puppets and start yacking. You can hype up a product, site or service in one of many ways.

When I made that remark I was not aware that you were involved in this site.

I had an idea once myself about creating a way to register NSAs into many sites. It fills a need for those who are working fulltime and do this part-time. Likely they can come up with $200 easier than they can find time to get into ss databases.

Good luck on meaningful conversation as I am in the process of switching gears tonight into a mode I will call "Meeting the Fochers." I am not taking any more assignments this week and must be getting my house, life, manicures, pedicures, dog grooming, etc. up to perceived Focher Standard. Hint: my son just called after leaving the jewelry store. He'll be marrying that Focher girl at the end of the year, I think. Eng. ring is soon to be purchased.

The Fochers and son's father/step- mom are coming here for this Hallmark moment. I guess for one whole day I must not refer to Rob's dad and step-mom as "my baby's daddy" and "my baby's daddy's real wife." They have already threatened me not to do that.

PS - If you call...I plan on being around this evening, but you never know when I might leave this computer and go AWOL under all this pressure. Call me on 979-314-1334 if you don't mind. It's my voip line.

Reply by Russ Burnett on 4/5/06 6:16pm
Msg #111372

Re: Attn> Developer

I'm glad your not then because she is happy that I defended her name. After speaking with Glenn about the whole thing, he did say he jumped the gun on a few statments and is in no way a web designer. I have said sorry several times now for the quick attack to everyone on the forum. So I will say it again for you too. Sorry. If I did work for you and someone was attacking your business, wether you admit it or not, you would have wanted to have someone jump to your defence also. Maybe not in the original manner that I did, but still have someone there for you.

Reply by TCMN on 4/5/06 6:13pm
Msg #111369

Re: Attn> Developer....Martha & anyone else

I have ties to 1clickregistry and I would like you to take a look at your statement Martha.

Without using the system, you bash it because of a fee amount. If you do not see a value, great, but it's not outragious. I think that even BrendaTx stated the benefit something like this would be in a message once here on NotRot. Are you saying her opinion would be referred to as outragious or even a bad opinion?

I would like to say that this resource was to give the new NSA the oportunity to start working faster and not be discouraged by the numerous companies they have to sign up with to get work. Some have worked hard to learn to do signings and maybe put themselves into a better situation or whatever reason they have used to decide to make money being a signing agent and it would be of value to them.
I would like the industry to have the "smart" NSA's out there helping me out with overflow because I seem to see & hear about more and more "repair" jobs around from the NSA that gives a crap about what they are doing.

NSA's that have done this a long time might not deem it a value since if you have done this for years, I would hope you had built a solid base of business relationships that you shouldn't be signing up with many companies at all. Your work should be coming from referrals.

But to recoomend not using it? To me that sounds more like fear.

"Don't use it people".... because in your head you're thinking that then their name is getting to some of the same companies you probably work for and that would mean competition.

No notary has to worry about their income if they are doing a great job. Because this is not an industry that likes taking risks on if a set of documents are done wrong since it can mean hundreads and thousands of dollars to fix where they all want to jump to the newbies for them to do their jobs.

Ever thought about why the title companies pay more than the "other" companies? They want experience. Ever notice that the $35, $40, $50 fees are being offered by the NON-title companies and thus NOT getting the professional NSA for that amount?


So, making a responsible statement, I would say that everyone should do what THEY want. Don't bash something you have no experience in, don't speak before you can feel good about standing up for what you do say, don't judge unless you've been in that persons shoes (which from what my grandmother had once told me was is this "you should never judge because you CAN'T be in someone elses shoes because you are not that person, don't have their history to base your actions of feelings on for how they might react and don't have to live with their choices or know what their choices might even be."

It's just my opinion here, but I can say that I don't think that anyone not involved has anything to say when it would be between ldd6002 and 1clickregistry.

I feel Russ had full right to defend his company when someone is throwing things around and even acknowledging that they had no time to research their claims. I do not see Glenn having a web hosting/designing/internet payment company like Authorize.net or Paypal, to be able to comment. Or how exactly I could find the IP being registered through AZ but he could not.

Glenn bashed a company that had it's site designed by Russ and they do work that is superior to most companies out there doing the same thing. You would be pissed if you were accused just the same.
And to spout off about picking the wrong forum to slam a notary...I think that was unprofessional. The way notaries seem to think that bashing companies is okay but companies can't defend themselves is outragious. The notary can make snide remarks about a company or even a newbie, but when a company makes a snide remark it a different standard?
Sorry I won't participate in that.

just my thoughts.

I haven't been here for awhile because I was working, doing other things and wanted a break from the high-school antics that happen here and to be here for the first time in more than 2 weeks, maybe even 3 weeks....to see this off the bat....it doesn't put the "missing the forum" anywhere inside me.

Reply by SarahBeth_CA on 4/5/06 9:05pm
Msg #111415

TCMN.. Since your not privy to the information...

Both Russ and I have been in contact with Glenn. Both of us know that Glenn wasn't basing. Glenn did make an honest mistake. Russ knows that. If I were Glenn I would have had the same impression he did. But you know since Russ and Glenn have figured out what the issue was, solved it, and apologized to one another I think you should just drop it.