Posted by Barbara O on 8/30/06 3:28pm
Msg #142265

Now taking bets...

Ok before you shoot me, I was bored!! That's my excuse, I swear! I just recieved a call from the infamous SOX. They want me to do a signing in an hour, and the signing is 30 mins from me. She said the docs *might* be ready on time. I said.. "I'll do it, but I will ONLY do it if the docs are ready on time" I have yet to recieve the confirmation letter on this. I'm taking bets.. will I get the docs on time? I won't even attempt to start betting on wether I will get paid or not, lol.

Reply by SueW/Tn on 8/30/06 3:32pm
Msg #142270

I can't resist this one....

the docs WERE late while you were on the phone.

Reply by Barbara O on 8/30/06 3:33pm
Msg #142272

Re: I can't resist this one....

LOL you're right! But wait... aren't I giving them the same type of directions that they give us in order to be paid?

Reply by SueW/Tn on 8/30/06 3:34pm
Msg #142275

GOOD ANSWER! Turnabout is fair play! n/m

Reply by Regal/NC on 8/30/06 3:35pm
Msg #142276

You R truly a "Daring Soul" Good Luck!! n/m

Reply by Barbara O on 8/30/06 3:39pm
Msg #142282

Oh! I got the confirmation... with the wrong fee quoted! I emailed back, repeating the fee I quoted them. It also said I would recieve docs "within the hour" ...I need the docs by 4:45 in order to arrive on time at the borrowers.. we shall see.

Reply by Gary_CA on 8/30/06 4:12pm
Msg #142294

I'll put a latte and a cookie on NO DOCS n/m

Reply by Barbara O on 8/30/06 4:15pm
Msg #142296

Re: I'll put a latte and a cookie on NO DOCS

Looks like I owe you a latte and a cookie Gary! Catch ya next time I'm in CA

NO docs by 5 after 5, I emailed, explained that I would not be able to print and get to the borrower by 5:30 appointment time. No response. Well, we all needed a good chuckle, right?

Reply by cassiewi on 8/30/06 4:16pm
Msg #142297

LOL Barbara n/m

Reply by CaliNotary on 8/30/06 5:12pm
Msg #142307

Re: I'll put a latte and a cookie on NO DOCS

I'm shocked that there haven't been a few bleeding heart "but think of the borrowers!" posts in this thread. I like your style.

Now tell me, what would you have done if the docs did turn up on time? Surely you woulnt' have been foolish enough to actually do a SOX signing?

Reply by Barbara O on 8/30/06 5:40pm
Msg #142314

Re: I'll put a latte and a cookie on NO DOCS

Foolish enough that I told them I would reschedule for 8pm if they paid me an extra $25...like I was ever going to get paid the first fee, lol.. oh well. Now we have the problem that the person's birthdate is completely wrong on the forms... (she is NOT 86 years old). How can I verify an identity if the birthdate on the forms don't match the birthdate on her driver's license? SOX's advice? "Have her cross out the birthdate and write in the correct one" Luckily, the loan company had a brain.. they are fixing it and mailing me new copies of the pages with her birthdate.

Reply by Life Saving Services - Doug on 8/30/06 5:44pm
Msg #142316

Re: I'll put a latte and a cookie on NO DOCS

So it sounds like you really are going to do a SOX signing and not get paid ?

Reply by Diga2Lin/FL on 8/30/06 5:46pm
Msg #142317

Re: I'll put a latte and a cookie on NO DOCS

Yes...$25 extra too..<G>

Reply by Barbara O on 8/30/06 6:04pm
Msg #142328

Re: I'll put a latte and a cookie on NO DOCS

LOL yes, I'll "get paid" my extra $25 too.. hehe

Reply by Diga2Lin/FL on 8/30/06 5:46pm
Msg #142318

Re: I'll put a latte and a cookie on NO DOCS

Yes...$25 extra too..<G>

Reply by Diga2Lin/FL on 8/30/06 5:47pm
Msg #142319

Re: I'll put a latte and a cookie on NO DOCS

Sorry...must have a tic in my finger - swear I only hit "Post" once..

Reply by Diga2Lin/FL on 8/30/06 5:47pm
Msg #142320

Re: I'll put a latte and a cookie on NO DOCS

Sorry...must have a tic in my finger - swear I only hit "Post" once..

Reply by Diga2Lin/FL on 8/30/06 5:48pm
Msg #142321

Sorry...I really AM only posting once.. n/m

Reply by CaliNotary on 8/30/06 5:50pm
Msg #142322

Are you kidding me?

1. Don't come whining on this board about SOX not paying you 3 months from now. Anyone who reads this board and still goes and does signings for them deserves to be stiffed. You are a fool.


2. Where in your notary law does it say that the birthdate on the ID has to match the birthdate on the forms? You only look at the ID for notarization purposes, everything else is irrelevant.

Now switching to your signing agent hat, sure, it was good of you to bring the discrepancy to their attention, but I really don't see anything wrong with crossing out the birthdate and initialling the correction, that's the type of clerical error that's covered by the correction agreement in the docs.

Reply by Barbara O on 8/30/06 6:00pm
Msg #142324

Re: Are you kidding me?

Well 1. I wouldn't come and whine.. hense my post right now, I am calling *myself* a fool.. not whining that I am not going to get paid - I'm joking about it.
And 2. The loan officer agreed with me that he too would not feel comfortable notarizing documents with the incorrect brithdate on them - that there is a possibility of forgery if you don't have ID that matches the information and you are only setting yourself up later. They were quite happy to correct the docs and send them on their way.

Reply by CaliNotary on 8/30/06 6:05pm
Msg #142329

Re: Are you kidding me?

Why are you joking about it? Don't you take running your business seriously? Knowing what you obviously know about SOX, why on earth would you agree to do a signing for them?

As long as they keep finding chumps who can find reasons to convince themselves to work for SOX, they're never going to change their habits. By accepting this signing you're doing a disservice to the entire signing agent community. You should be so proud of yourself, what a funny joke indeed.

Reply by Barbara O on 8/30/06 6:09pm
Msg #142333

Re: Are you kidding me?

I know that I run the risk of not getting paid by them because of so many posts here. I also know that I *HAVE* recieved a check from them for a signing that I did for them in the past which is why I decided to roll the dice this time. Yes, their billing methods seem to be set up for the notary to fail to recieve their money, but I think that since I was so proactive the last time, that is why I was paid. I hope to be as proactive this time and be paid for this signing as well. I feel it is a joke since so many have been burned by them, and they are the butt of many a joke on here.

Reply by WDMD on 8/30/06 6:17pm
Msg #142335

Re: Are you kidding me?

"I feel it is a joke since so many have been burned by them, and they are the butt of many a joke on here. "

No doubt it is a joke to SOX. I am sure they are laughing all the way to the bank.

Reply by CaliNotary on 8/30/06 6:27pm
Msg #142339

Re: Are you kidding me?

No kidding. It's amazing what greed by desperate signing agents will allow them to accomplish. And it's really sad that people like Barbara don't have the principles to tell them where to stick their signing because it wasn't HER that didn't get paid, it was only hundreds of OTHER people who were screwed by SOX.

Any company who routinely screws over signing agents is a company that isn't worthy of any of our services, period.

Reply by Brad_CA on 8/30/06 6:41pm
Msg #142347

Re: Are you kidding me?

Ditto!!!!

Reply by Ndwa on 8/30/06 7:13pm
Msg #142351

Re: Are you kidding me?

Let's see, SOX pay $85 edocs plus you're getting an extra $25 equal $110. I hope your pro-activeness won't turn into pro-longing for that check.

Reply by Dorothy_MI on 8/31/06 8:21am
Msg #142475

Make sure

you keep a copy of the docs in a secure folder on your computer until you are paid!! I'd also make a photo copy of the signed HUD with all the title company information on it.

Reply by Elizabeth Soliday on 8/30/06 8:16pm
Msg #142370

Re: Are you kidding me?

I don't understand you wanting to take the job, but I sure will not do anymore signings for SOX. Given one of my first signings was for them and you have been paid before by them - it only makes sense to see that they look for newbies and people who have bugged and got paid. No time for buggin here and I'm not a newbie anymore

Reply by kathy/ca on 8/30/06 10:50pm
Msg #142409

Curious, what form has the BRW birthdate on it that you....

would notarize?

Reply by Diga2Lin/FL on 8/31/06 7:34am
Msg #142457

Re: Curious, what form has the BRW birthdate on it that you....

Think it was more a case of identification - the ID and the docs had 2 different birthdates, thereby raising the question of accurate identity.

Reply by Ernest__CT on 8/31/06 7:50am
Msg #142462

Some of the Statement of Identification forms ...

... have the borrower swearing to the data (supposedly) copied from the ID. The NSA then notarizes the borrower's signature on the form.