Posted by JudyinLA on 2/3/06 1:34pm
Msg #93881

For HereinSOCAL--long

I feel you need to get the jist of the status quo concerning this and many other notary boards. I can only think of a couple of other posts I done on this board but boy do I watch. You stated that this board has a clique. Truth be known it has a couple. That's just the way most place divy up. No matter what organization you join there will be those few that will become the "leaders" everyone else will follow. A while ago another poster tried to point out the hatefulness of a couple of members and the know it all hogs that feel the need to just say what comes to mind. She didn't cuss anyone, just made a few observations and bingo, she doesn't seem to be around anymore. She went against the clique I guess.
Another big truth is the outlandish rude and crudeness of a select few. You named Calinotary as a big offender. Truth is, I rather have Calinotary than Becca from Fl. If you'll (or anyone else) will do a search with just her name in the keywords area. You'll see that she, for the majority of her posts, is rude, hateful, brattish and just plain crude. She's a bully. I surmise this must be the only way to feed her low self-esteem. Why would anyone who seems to be such a professional stoop to such childish schoolyard behavior. Her mean streak is evident in 9 of every 10 posts. Here she's supposed to be this big experience professional. She acts like a brat who thinks she is doing the others a favor. Truth be known, her behavior makes the others look worse than they really are. Because they allow it. My question to any of them is "Do you want to be bullied?" Of course, they don't, yet they let her win. This overaged, self-important woman is allowed to behave worse than Nellie Olson of Little House on the Prairie fame! Not one of the regulars have the guts to call her on it. If they did, she'd have been put in her place long ago. I'm not saying I'm jumping on your Victoria Ring crusade, I'm not a VR fan. I am also not interested in making a notary board about religious argument. It doesn't belong here. However, I do enjoy reading the off topic jokes and antics of some of the posters. For the most, I'd enjoy attending a party with most of them. I think Calinotary would be the life of the party. These guys each have a personality trait that makes them stand out. It would help you to see that. BrendaTX was labeled Mother-know-it-all by someone. I agree with the label, but not in a derrogatory way. She's a fountain of information and usually willing to help out. You will recognize them as you get to know them. Charles is the conservative fatherly type. Charm is just a charm. I look forward to her weekly jokes. Beth is funny too. Teddog is always cheerful, too. There are others but names aren't coming to mind at the moment.
Get past the annoying and unprofessional and as for Becca, accept that she is the legend in her own mind and until someone sees fit to monitor her, she'll continue as always.
Hope today's a better day for you.

Reply by Anonymous on 2/3/06 1:41pm
Msg #93887

Re: For HereinSOCAL--I agree with most

of what Judy said. She's right on the money about Becca. She will attack anyone for just about anything.
However, I can't say I think BrendaTx, CarolynCo, Beth/MD, CharlesCA, Calinotary, or any of the other names you constantly see are really all that great. They seem to be overrated only in the deep caves of their minds.
My attitude is say what you want and don't worry about the rest of the group.

Reply by Anonymous on 2/3/06 1:45pm
Msg #93889

Re: Anonymous don't forget

There are other know it alls that would be offended if they were not included. HereinSOCAL, posters like Sherry/SLB, Shane and Roger in Ohio, ExpednTX and such used to be pretty quiet until they joined the special group that you mentioned.

Reply by Me2know on 2/3/06 1:47pm
Msg #93890

Re: Anonymous don't forget

Wow, the bullies are getting it. Good job everybody. Is it still a good and cheery morning?

Reply by Anonymous on 2/3/06 1:53pm
Msg #93896

Re: Anonymous don't forget

It's a great morning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reply by CaliNotary on 2/3/06 4:25pm
Msg #94007

Re: Anonymous don't forget

Reply by CaliNotary on 2/3/06 4:27pm
Msg #94011

Re: Anonymous don't forget

That's your idea of us "getting it"? Please. If you're going to insult me then INSULT ME. It takes a bit more than just saying I'm part of a clique.

Reply by Shane_OH on 2/3/06 4:10pm
Msg #93980

I Joined a group?

Do I get a jacket or a special secret handshake or something?

I have posted on an off over the past year or so, not as much as the last couple months, but I'm here and there...

But as for being with a group? Nope, but you learn to recognize knowledgeable people, and the ones that aren't.

You may not like any of the names you suggested, but who are the first to answer 90% of all the questions asked on this board? Those people.

Reply by SLB SIGNING SERVICES, INC. - Sherry on 2/3/06 4:11pm
Msg #93981

You are one of US now Shane - get out your badge and

wear it with pride

Reply by Shane_OH on 2/3/06 4:14pm
Msg #93987

Just Ordered

My Custom Red & Black satin Jacket.... "Not Rot Crew" embroidered on the back...

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!

Reply by Beth/MD on 2/3/06 4:20pm
Msg #93997

Re: Just Ordered...Wow, we get jackets?

Reply by eXpedN_TX on 2/3/06 4:21pm
Msg #93999

Re: Just Ordered...Wow, we get jackets?

Hey, somehow my name got entered and I am honored. Can I get my shirt in hot pink? Looks good with my blond highlights.

Reply by CarolynCO on 2/3/06 4:30pm
Msg #94017

Re: I thought all we got was free biz cards. nm

Reply by SLB SIGNING SERVICES, INC. - Sherry on 2/3/06 4:31pm
Msg #94019

I think we need to raise the bar......heck us no it alls

deserve only the best...

Reply by Becca_FL on 2/3/06 4:42pm
Msg #94033

Brenda and I want tiaras. Oh, I can't wait to get mine!.n/m

Reply by Beth/MD on 2/3/06 4:44pm
Msg #94034

Re: Brenda and I want tiaras. Oh, I can't wait to get mine!.n/m

But Becca, if you get a tiara, you're jacket will need a train!

Reply by Beth/MD on 2/3/06 4:44pm
Msg #94035

Re: Brenda and I want tiaras. that's your not you're...n/m

Reply by BrendaTx on 2/3/06 8:54pm
Msg #94140

Tiaras and Cliques??? That's really serious.

And, again I am afraid of my shadow.

Reply by CarolynCO on 2/3/06 5:01pm
Msg #94054

Re: Brenda and I want tiaras. Oh, I can't wait to get mine!.n/m

And with a train, you will need someone carrying it off the ground for you. Would you be expected to tip that sort of service?

Reply by SLB SIGNING SERVICES, INC. - Sherry on 2/3/06 5:07pm
Msg #94058

Maybe an anon can carry the train

Reply by hcampersFL on 2/4/06 12:31am
Msg #94179

Re: Maybe an anon can carry the train

I don't think I would want an anon behind me holding anything. Seems like they are already holding knives and I wouldn't want my back to be a target.
b.

Reply by Anonymous on 2/3/06 1:52pm
Msg #93894

Re: For HereinSOCAL--I agree with most

You are right on target and it is interesting as to who offends who, I too find the board a learning tool and will continue to read it. But I'm not at all impressed with the names above and a few others I could add but why waste one's time. They won't change just be glad your not like them.

Reply by Darla on 2/3/06 1:55pm
Msg #93899

Re: For HereinSOCAL--I agree with most

I don't mind listing a few names. Frankly, I 200% agree with the comments about Becca. I'm glad she's not near me, I'd become violent! And, Charm can be just awful if you don't care for what she has to say. Here, lately I've noticed that BrendaTX just rattles off her sass and then passes it off as a joke. I'm not worried if I name these people. I'm old enough to be a parent to half of them. I'm appalled at their ugliness.

Reply by Anonymous on 2/3/06 2:02pm
Msg #93910

Re: For HereinSOCAL--I agree with most

Oh yes, it is ugly at times. Charm once made a comment, a tacky comment, I responded to the comment in few words, oh my goodness, it was unreal who jumped to her rescue.....the entire group of followers. Most of the group have no mind of their own. And no one person is more impressed with their smarts, then they themselves. I would suggest you do our own research even after you get an answer on this board, it may very likely be the wrong answer.

Reply by Charm_AL on 2/3/06 2:07pm
Msg #93916

LOL anon...

don't stop to think that bot everyone in the world is wrong but you...sounds like a complex.

Reply by JO_PA on 2/3/06 1:54pm
Msg #93898

Re: New little (!) group full of crybabies n/m

Reply by Darla on 2/3/06 1:57pm
Msg #93900

Re: For Jo_PA

Your response is exactly what this is all about. Why was it necessary? Looking for the others like Shane or Carolyn or Sherry, or Beth or Brenda or Becca or Cali to stick up for you?

Reply by Darla on 2/3/06 1:58pm
Msg #93903

Re: For everyone

I would really like to know what it is that everyone finds so likeable about everyone named here?

Reply by JudyinLA on 2/3/06 1:59pm
Msg #93904

Re: For everyone

Well this post took off in a different direction than I had anticipated. Figures.

Reply by Charm_AL on 2/3/06 2:01pm
Msg #93907

Tissue anyone?....n/m

Reply by JO_PA on 2/3/06 2:02pm
Msg #93909

Re: For everyone

They give valuable info, unlike all the complainers who only complain. Try contributing something once in a while like they do. I've learned something from each of them, but so far, nothing from people like you!

Reply by SarahBeth_CA on 2/3/06 2:02pm
Msg #93911

Re: For everyone

What is likeable is that when it come to the business they know thier stuff. Do I agree with them all 100% of the time? No. But 99% of the time I disagree it's is on a personal opinion not related to the business at all. But when a business answer is correct there is no argueing it.

Reply by BrendaTx on 2/4/06 2:49am
Msg #94188

Re: For everyone

**I would really like to know what it is that everyone finds so likeable about everyone named here?**

Hello Darla:

I don't know that any of us/those *are* so likeable but we seem to find a degree of trust and friendship among those you have named and through others. I like those people because I can disagree with them without starting a riot. They have a lot of wisdom and other good qualities.

Do you find anyone likeable?

I am at this board because the people seem comfortable to me. If I didn't like the people here I guess I'd go elsewhere, or stay out of the forums.

Reply by JO_PA on 2/3/06 2:00pm
Msg #93905

Re: For Jo_PA

You people are doing exactly what you are accusing other people are doing, minus some of the "crude language.
Grow up! If you don't like what someone posts, ignore it. Don't whine!

Reply by SLB SIGNING SERVICES, INC. - Sherry on 2/3/06 2:59pm
Msg #93941

Dont know how got dragged into this.....

I think you all might want to read some threads....I am in no clique...I pretty much would have to say that I am a minority on here...the enemy in a sense...I can take constructive criticism just fine but there has only been one time when I bashed anyone and that was an anon (might of been 2 on the same thread)...I regretted afterwards but they had my blood boiling...Oh an excuse me, I have gotten into quite a few heated discussions with Cali..Otherwise, I am just here to read and learn too..

Reply by SLB SIGNING SERVICES, INC. - Sherry on 2/3/06 3:02pm
Msg #93942

Forgot to mention...although I am not part of any "clique"..

I do have to say, I am quite honored to be mentioned with most in this group.

Reply by CarolynCO on 2/3/06 3:03pm
Msg #93944

Re: Forgot to mention...although I am not part of any "clique"..

You better watch out for your reputation Sherry if you actually want to be included in *our* group.

Reply by SLB SIGNING SERVICES, INC. - Sherry on 2/3/06 3:05pm
Msg #93946

Please dont boot me out......I wouldnt know what to do with

myself Carolyn....I might have to cross to the other side (NOT)..lol

Reply by CarolynCO on 2/3/06 3:15pm
Msg #93952

Re: Please dont boot me out......I wouldnt know what to do with

The NNA must be teaching new topics in their classes -- I can't believe these Anons coming in here with a chip on their shoulders, wanting it all, and then we are the bad guys.

Reply by Charm_AL on 2/3/06 2:03pm
Msg #93912

Re: For HereinSOCAL--long Judy..

don't worry, we that can comprehend know exactly what you mean. There's always going to be the anons with a bunch of whining and no real contributions.
It's a clique thing ya know

Reply by Jon_PA on 2/3/06 2:04pm
Msg #93913

WAAaaaa...Sniff Sniff...

Reply by Merry_CA on 2/3/06 2:20pm
Msg #93920

JudyinLA... did you have a point to make?... or just venting?

Reply by Anonymous on 2/3/06 2:45pm
Msg #93934

I saw 3 points. What's your problem, she didn't have anything to say about you?

Reply by Merry_CA on 2/3/06 2:49pm
Msg #93937

And the relevence of the three points were?...

Reply by Becca_FL on 2/3/06 4:02pm
Msg #93973

Dear, poor Judy...

I certainly hope you make a better Notary than you do an armchair psychologist, because my dear, you couldn't be more wrong about me - just ask my posse.

What I can't stand, more than anything, is dealing with idiots. Idiots that can't think for themselves, can't seem to make in investment in their own future and profession make me MAD. People that refuse to take responsibility for their own lives just tick me off. It seems of late, idiots are penetrating my world in places where they have not before. Let's take NotRot, for example. NotRot used to be so much fun and an excellent place to talk, share and learn. Now, it's hard to find a good discussion between al the crying, whining and how do I make money posts.

So, do I get a bit nasty sometimes? You bet I do and for damn good reason. This is not a schoolyard; you can't pay off your neighbor for the answers to the test next period. You can't write an essay on the cliff notes, you have to do your own homework and learn for yourself. I am saddened at what I see hear sometimes. So many clueless people out there that have absolutely no business sense, no learning skills and no ambition to set goals and achieve them on there own merit. Despite what people believe, this is not a g’me profession. Would you open a pizza shop across the street from Pizza Hut and then ask the guy across the street to train you how to run a pizza shop? AND to top it off, you’re a Repertory Therapist by trade and have no clue what the pizza business is all about, but you heard that you could make a killing.

GET REAL!

Feel free to start the crying, whining idiot brigade, just take it to Yahoo and leave NotRot to the people who like to discuss what we do and why we do it. I'm all for a professional board, I'm against a whining, crying what's a jurat board.

Reply by Beth/MD on 2/3/06 4:13pm
Msg #93986

Re: Dear, poor Judy...

Wow, go out and close a loan or two and look what goes on behind my back! Where did this all come from? Sounds strangely like the whole Missy Anderson tirade.

Reply by CarolynCO on 2/3/06 4:26pm
Msg #94008

Re: Beth - just a regular Peyton Place ...

you miss an episode and you have no idea what's going on.

Reply by PA_Notary_II on 2/3/06 4:52pm
Msg #94044

How to cull the group...

I would never join a group that would have someone like me as a member !!

Reply by CarolynCO on 2/3/06 4:59pm
Msg #94051

Re: the great thing about OUR group

is that none of us joined. The Anons just threw us together.

Reply by HereinSOCA on 2/4/06 2:51am
Msg #94189

Reply to Judy in LA: For HereinSOCAL--long THANK YOU!

Judy,

Thank You for this post!

It's good to know that there are professional notaries on this board, who can make a statement without having to viciously demean someone!

Regarding Victoria Ring. I disliked the notaries bashing her when she was not on the board to defend herself. There is a saying (which goes something like this):" At first they came for the strangers, and I said nothing. Next they came for my friends and I still said nothing. Afterwards, they came for my neighbors and I again said nothing. Today they came for me and there was no one left to speak-up, because everyone was gone!"

It seems as though many of the folks on this board dislike the "religious testimony", an example is "Paw". Yet when he was in the hospital, there were many persons (myself included), who prayed for him and said so on the board! Not one person disagreed!

When people have strife in their lives or just need to vent, often times, they will ask the board members "to pray for" them! There is always a positve response (as it should be).
Many times people will write "God Bless", "in Jesus Name" and so on in their postings.

Therefore, when is it okay to express religious viewpoints and when is it not?

Of course, there will be an array of answers! My point is that, anyone should be able to address an issue without a barage of furious, extreme-wing, notaries sounding the alarm button!

I do not mind when people disagree with me. Infact, I love a good debate! However, what I hate is the verbal abuse and mockery! There is no need! And when these people become angry, they become irrational! Most (if not all) of the "clique" replies to my post, do not even make sense! There is ranting and raving about me and my "religious" views, yet there is no mention of the ill behaviour, in reference to the name calling etc. . . Therefore, it must be acceptable, on this board, to behave in this manner!

Also, what I find interesting, is that when I used the term "Newbie", there were a few notaries who wrote that, "being a notary is long hard work", that I "cannot expect work to be given to" me, that I "should respect my elders" and so forth! Obviously they had not read the post with any clarity or understanding!

It's as though there is a "gang" problem here on the board!

Even though these "foul-talking" notaries may have a wealth of notarial knowledge, I no longer have any respect for them. None at all!

So the next time I read a post, written by one of these persons, that "Newbies are taking away our business" etc. . .I will have no longer have empathy for them. Too bad! Too sad!

Again, I Thank You and all the other Decent (Yes, Decent!) women and men on this board, who have been Very Nice and Very Professional (to me)!

And Yes! I had a Wonderful Day!

By the way, What is an "anon"????

Reply by Anonymous on 2/4/06 2:37pm
Msg #94295

Anon derives from the Spanish word ano

which means an intelligent and distinguished person.

Reply by PAW_Fl on 2/4/06 3:05pm
Msg #94301

Re: Anon derives from the Spanish word ano

Learned scholars seem to disagree. "Anon" is an abbreviation of "anonymous".

Anonymous is from Late Latin "annymus", from Greek "annumos", nameless.

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