Posted by larry Schaffer on 7/17/06 11:00pm
Msg #133755
acknowledgement name and title
o.k. guys,
you have convinced me that i have to use my full notary name and "notary public" in the space provided on the acknowledgement. my question now is can i stack them like this;
Larry Eugene Schaffer,
...........before me, Notary Public, personally appeared,.........
someone please tell me before i go out tomorrow, because that's what i think i'm going to do. i simply cannot fit my garbage in the space and i don't have a stamp yet.
thank, larry
| Reply by Ernest__CT on 7/17/06 11:25pm
Msg #133758
You need to specify your name EXACTLY the way it is on your Commission. No longer, no shorter. If you Commission uses all three names, that is the way you must print and sign. If your Commission uses your first name, middle initial, and last name, then that's the way you must fill in the blank and sign.
Typically the form will say "Before me, [you fill in] Larry Eugene Schaffer, Notary Public, personally appeared ...." and you sign, date, and fill in your Commission expiration date.
| Reply by CaliNotary on 7/17/06 11:28pm
Msg #133759
"If you Commission uses all three names, that is the way you must print and sign. If your Commission uses your first name, middle initial, and last name, then that's the way you must fill in the blank and sign."
Not true. Your printed name must match the way it's shown on your commission, but your signature must match what's on file with the SOS, even if it doesn't match what's shown on your commission.
| Reply by Ernest__CT on 7/17/06 11:31pm
Msg #133762
Huh?
Your printed name should always match your signature (or vice versa) . Why would anyone's printed name contain more or less than their signature?!
| Reply by CaliNotary on 7/17/06 11:50pm
Msg #133771
Re: Huh?
Because if you didn't sign your notary application that way, you shouldn't sign your notarizations that way.
My commission has my full 3 names (because I'm a bonehead who didn't realize that if I included my middle name I'd have to print it out every single time). My signature is my first initial and last name. That's how I signed the notary application because that's how I always sign my name. So to do what you're suggesting would mean signing in a way that's different than what the SOS has on file for me.
| Reply by Ernest__CT on 7/17/06 11:58pm
Msg #133773
Oh. Sorry! (Signatures)
CaliNotary is, as usual, correct! Mea culpa. Signature in notarial block should == signature on file. Oops.
Signatures are funny things. They're got to match the official version, whether Notary or borrower. I've had people whose signature looks like only their first name, but their signature looks (nearly) identical on their ID. One attorney said that if anyone saw a document with his full name signed then they'd know that it was a forgery. His driver's license and other ID had the equivalent of "Bruce" with a big, swirly B. "Fine." says I to myself; "His signature matches his ID."
Please note that I didn't use the word "bonehead".
| Reply by Brad_CA on 7/17/06 11:31pm
Msg #133763
Los Angeles County Procedural Changes
Beginning the week of May 1, 2006, Los Angeles County will begin to reject acknowledgements that contain any of the following:
Asteriks, carrots ( ^ ), lines, arrows or any information that is in anyway inserted into an acknowledgement.
Any written information that is slanted, stacked, skewed, or in anyway not in a single straight line across without ANY variation
(if the name is too long and it will not fit on the designated line, please attach an individual California acknowledgement- attached)
Any variation in the name or title of the notary, or in the name(s) of the signing party(ies)
These changes in procedure are a result of County Counsel Jose Silva's decision to begin rejecting documents for any of the above reason. In order to prevent unnecessary rejection of your documents, it is imperative that acknowledgements be properly executed by the notary.
| Reply by larry Schaffer on 7/17/06 11:31pm
Msg #133761
ernest,
i know i have to use my full name but therin lies my problem. it's too long for the space. i was leaving my middle name out until i found out that i needed to use it. now my question is can i stack my name above the words "notary public" in the space provided.
thank you, larry
| Reply by Brad_CA on 7/17/06 11:33pm
Msg #133764
Los Angeles County Procedural Changes
Beginning the week of May 1, 2006, Los Angeles County will begin to reject acknowledgements that contain any of the following:
Asteriks, carrots ( ^ ), lines, arrows or any information that is in anyway inserted into an acknowledgement.
Any written information that is slanted, stacked, skewed, or in anyway not in a single straight line across without ANY variation
(if the name is too long and it will not fit on the designated line, please attach an individual California acknowledgement- attached)
Any variation in the name or title of the notary, or in the name(s) of the signing party(ies)
These changes in procedure are a result of County Counsel Jose Silva's decision to begin rejecting documents for any of the above reason. In order to prevent unnecessary rejection of your documents, it is imperative that acknowledgements be properly executed by the notary.
| Reply by larry Schaffer on 7/17/06 11:37pm
Msg #133767
thanks brad, that's what i wanted to know. larry
| Reply by Brad_CA on 7/17/06 11:38pm
Msg #133768
You are welcome. I am glad that I could help.
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