Posted by Jahari Davis on 6/19/06 11:52pm
Msg #126916

First American Title in India???

Hey everyone, I got a story to tell. Today I got a call from a representative from First American Title (which was odd that a company by that name had what sounded like an East Indian woman on the phone) calling me to confirm that a) the signing I had last tuesday took place; and b) asking if I would be interested in taking a closing about 30 minutes from me and then TOLD me the fee they WILL pay was $50. If you've ever heard the Joker laugh, I'm sure I sounded like him when she told me they would pay me $50 instead of asking me how much I charge.
Is this a hint of things to come from this company and others or what? I can tell you...I promise you I was more than a little peeved when someone TOLD me how much my rate was for my work. Thats like someone telling Picasso they will pay him $100 for a painting they want him to do. When I told her what my fee was she said she'd call me after checking with her supervisor and I never heard from her. I guess when and if it goes wrong...and it very well could for any NSA willing to take a lowball $50, they'll call me back for it to be done correctly. I've got nothing against new and underworked notaries trying to get a little bit of business but seriously...STOP TAKING THE LOWBALL FEES!!! Just a little something to share that happened to me today in my adventures in notaring. Comments?

L8r

Reply by BrendaTx on 6/20/06 12:00am
Msg #126918

"It's okay! Faxing back is okay! We pay you $50."

I get these calls and kind of chuckle because they are so earnest.

No, Jahari...this game with India has been going on at least a year or so.

Makes you want to go "Phooey."

Reply by Jahari Davis on 6/20/06 12:10am
Msg #126920

They've hit you up too. Geez, as much as I'd like to take the business, I get the feeling I'd be "getting the business" taking signings like those. I mean come on...that $50 signing wouldnt have even paid for my time, mileage, and gas going there. What an insult.

Reply by NCLisa on 6/20/06 7:06am
Msg #126941

FASS called me twice yesterday and offered me $50. The second time they called, I said you already called me once today for this signing. I declined. I need this $___ amount to do it. I will never take less than $___ amount for overnight docs to this area. She hung up, called me back 20 minutes later, and said she had approved my fee and put it in the system. She called back at 4:30 pm and gave me another at my fee. I'm happy, they are both within 15 minutes of me, and that rarely happens.

Reply by BrendaTx on 6/20/06 8:26am
Msg #126950

Re: First American Title in India??? Jahari:

*They've hit you up too.*

Yes. Check your email. I sent you some info I'd rather not share here.

Reply by CaliNotary on 6/20/06 12:08am
Msg #126919

Are you kidding me?

You think it's odd that First American Title would have an East Indian sounding woman on the phone? Are you not aware that people have emigrated from India to the United States? And that once they get here they usually obtain gainful employment?

I just saw your profile picture. I guess I should think it's strange that you cover those counties in MI since you must be based out of Compton, right?

Reply by Jahari Davis on 6/20/06 12:34am
Msg #126924

Re: Are you kidding me?

Cali, are you trying to be funny or are you really showing how much of a ignorant jackass you are? I'm having a hard time trying to decide because I dont want to err on the side of giving you the benefit of the doubt. Because its so late here I'm going to give you a pass on that ignorant @$$ comment you posted. Sure she could be here in the US but with outsourcing as attractive as it is for companies as large as First American Title, it wouldnt surprise me if they had decided to outsource a little of their business to India. I'd say it would be a safe bet.

Reply by Dennis D Broadbooks on 6/20/06 6:59am
Msg #126938

This is So Illustrative...

...of the duplicity of the "anointed" who attempt on a daily basis to run roughshod on this board under the guise of assisting those too ignorant to "see the light". Jahari shares an experience he's just had in order to give others an insight into this business & what does he receive for his efforts? There IS an agenda on the part of a few to ensure their viewpoints & ONLY their viewpoints are encouraged. It's too bad, Jahari, you've fallen in disfavor with those who have ALL the answers. Wear it as a badge of courage. At least you have the wherewithal to link your postings with your profile AND dare to share your picture as well.

Reply by CaliNotary on 6/20/06 5:11pm
Msg #127073

Re: This is So Illustrative...

"There IS an agenda on the part of a few to ensure their viewpoints & ONLY their viewpoints are encouraged"

This is coming from the guy who's last post was a christian based, anit-abortion message.

Reply by Anonymous on 6/20/06 12:49am
Msg #126925

You're not going to believe this but...

I used to recruit and hire notaries for this group. They do have a call center in India. The CSR's are given a goal of $50-$75 max per signing. The people in India have no concept of how far a notary must travel, as they do not have access to a map of the US.

The Supervisor can go up to $100, and if the recruiters calling from my group called the notary, we could offer more for a hard to cover area, or high priority signing.

They are counting on website access to assignments, to give each notary more volume when they want it, and therefore, make the notary more profitable, by giving some control over your schedule; thus they feel the notary will accept the $50 base fee.

When I informed the VP of my group I was able to sign up notaries with the understanding the $50 was a base fee, and that they were free to negotiate a reasonable travel fee, I was told I was wrong, they are not free to negotiate.

Actually, I guess no one will be surprised by this...my apologies for those I unwittingly misled.

Reply by BrendaTx on 6/20/06 1:54am
Msg #126930

Re: You're not going to believe this but...

Welcome back from the dark side. J/k.

Good night, gal. I am down for the count.

Reply by sue_pa on 6/20/06 7:43am
Msg #126945

Re: You're not going to believe this but...

K, apology accepted; however, let it be noted, when you were in CA and then when you moved to TX you followed the party line and attempted to badger and cajole the low fees and also the illegal acts - although you always did it so in the nicest of ways - unlike some others there.

Reply by BrendaTx on 6/20/06 9:34am
Msg #126974

Re: You're not going to believe this but...sue

I thought I was talking to a different person whose name does not start with a K. Been wrong before, probably will be again.

Reply by Blueink_CA on 6/20/06 10:26am
Msg #126987

Cali, you crossed the line

Your point was clear in your first paragraph. I feel your last comment was offensive, tactless and uncalled for. What were you thinking???

Reply by BrendaTx on 6/20/06 11:05am
Msg #126996

Re: Cali, you crossed the line

Well...there ya go. I am not even sharp enough to "get it." Please don't explain it for my sake. I will figure it out on my own. No need to fan a flame.

Reply by Anonymous on 6/20/06 10:35am
Msg #126989

Re: Are you kidding me?

I guess you are still on the path of getting revenge since Jahari got the better of you in one of the other threads!!Grow up.

Reply by BrendaTx on 6/20/06 10:57am
Msg #126992

Re: Are you kidding me?

The funny part of these posts about Cali notary is that he never takes anything personally. Jeers like this simply do not hit the mark. I suspect Jahari is the same. You yourself said he can hold his own.

Their debates get a little testy but I usually learn something from one or the other of them.

Reply by Anonymous on 6/20/06 11:04am
Msg #126995

Re: Are you kidding me?

Oh I am sure Cali taught you how to use foul language to get a point across.

Reply by BrendaTx on 6/20/06 1:21pm
Msg #127038

Re: Are you kidding me? - Again Anon 69.233.170.240

In an earlier thread I said:

***Yeah I did say troll and jackass. If the shoe does not fit, I am sorry. If the shoe does fit, however, we'd like to see you in the wig, too. I claim this: I am the way I post. Whether or not that's professional or adequately responsive remains in the eye of the beholder.***

Apparently the shoe *does* fit.

Reply by Anonymous on 6/20/06 2:01pm
Msg #127046

Re: Are you kidding me? - Again Anon 69.233.170.240

You and Cali should really team up.Birds of a feather.....

Reply by BrendaTx on 6/20/06 3:15pm
Msg #127053

Advice for you Anon 69.233.170.240 - LaffyTaffy

Get busy and "Shake that LaffyTaffy" and you'll have a whole new attitude.

Reply by Anonymous on 6/20/06 11:29pm
Msg #127134

Re: Advice for you Anon 69.233.170.240 - LaffyTaffy-Brenada

Well, we all know where you are from!! And unfortunately I also know where someone else is from ? Texas!!!. Hello! Cowboys!! Someone who cannot speak properly, so why are we surprised about outsourcing?Why don'nt we go to war with India? War always solves all our problems.

Reply by BrendaTx on 6/21/06 12:52am
Msg #127162

Re: Advice for you Anon 69.233.170.240 - LaffyAnon

**Well, we all know where you are from!! **

What do you mean by that? Obviously I am in College Station, Texas.

Reply by John_NorCal on 6/20/06 12:32pm
Msg #127019

Uncalled for Cali

while I generally agree with most of your posts, this one smacks of racism. I don't know what point you were trying to make but it did not belong here.

Reply by CaliNotary on 6/20/06 2:19pm
Msg #127049

Duh, that was the point

Of course it smacked of racism. So did Jahari's comment about it being odd that an East Indian woman would be calling for First American Title.

And please don't tell me that since she acutally was in India that makes it OK. Because it still doesn't make it ODD that a person with an Indian accent could be working for a title company in the US. And I'll bet if the person had a Nigerian accent, he wouldn't find that odd at all, nor would he assume he was speaking to someone who was actually in Nigeria.

It's funny how clear racism can be when it's white on black, but how much more subtle it can be when it involves other races.

Reply by Jahari Davis on 6/20/06 3:26pm
Msg #127055

Re: Duh, that was the point

Your really are reaching Cali. You tend to be just smart enough to see but never observe. For one, if you look at the original title of my post I used a question mark at the end posing it in the form of a question. It seems that someone that was in advanced classes in high school missed out on the use of punctuation in writing during their english classes. Also, missed was the use of irony in writing. If you had you would have noted that my comment was pointed irony in that a company by the name of First AMERICAN has offices in INDIA!!! Blacks and other minorities make a claim of racism when it is clearly evident or is perceived as such. I can't say for 100% certainty because I dont know but I'm sure you were one of those that were scoffing at the claims of racism in the response in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina and likely blamed the people that could not leave because they could not afford the $2.50+/gallon of gas to get out if they had cars. Perception and reality blur for minorities when race comes into play. How many times have you been profiled? How many times have you been pulled aside in an airport because of the way you look and the way you are dressed? How often do you see a woman clutch her purse when she sees you walking toward her? How often have you had you voting rights violated from dirty tricks and poll testing in an election? How often are you turned down for a job or had your skills and intelligence questioned based on the amount of melanin per square inch of skin on your body? Dont you dare cry to me that racism hurts you because you cannot play the card when you my friend are holding ALL the cards and the free passes! And for the record I never once used a racial slur nor demeaned the woman. I only said that she had an east indian accent. I gave you a pass and even agreed with you giving you a hint of benefit of doubt in that she very well could have emigrated to the US and worked for them here. But no you go and cry "boo hoo Jahari's being racist and I cannnnnt". You got it WAY wrong and took it to a place you should not have gone with the Compton comment. If you had a point you lost it on that alone.

L8r

Reply by Anonymous on 6/20/06 4:10pm
Msg #127062

Re: Duh, that was the point

Well said!!Remember Cali is something else-So do'nt concern yourself with his comments anymore-He is simply not worth the time.

Reply by CaliNotary on 6/20/06 5:15pm
Msg #127075

Re: Duh, that was the point

Blah blah blah. Change the race of the woman in your original post from Indian to black and the business from First American Title to Gucci on Rodeo Dr and tell me if you don't see the inherent racism that way.

Reply by John_NorCal on 6/20/06 5:18pm
Msg #127076

Re: Duh, that was the point

Well I took his post to be questioning a call center for an American title company located in India, not the fact that the person was East Indian. Look further down and you'll see Jahari's concern about job outsourcing. I believe that was his intent in his post all along, something that you did not read into his post.

Reply by TitleGalCA on 6/20/06 12:53pm
Msg #127028

Re: Are you kidding me?

I thought he was answering what he perceived Jahari's *racist* post about an East Indian woman, with something equally racist...on purpose, to prove a point about the *first* racist post (or what was perceived as racist...am I making sense?).

Yes, First American is outsourcing all kinds of stuff to India....other title companies are also, but I thought it was for typing policies, and other word processing functions - I had no idea the call centers for signings were located there.

First American Title of India, indeed. It's appropriate.

Reply by Jahari Davis on 6/20/06 1:06pm
Msg #127033

Re: Are you kidding me?

My posted comment wasnt anywhere near racist but instead a note of irony that a company by the name of First American...may have a call center in India(note the question mark at the end of the subject title.) Doesn't anyone recognize irony anymore?

Reply by cfwMI on 6/20/06 6:32am
Msg #126936

First American will pay more than $50. I use to take the $50 signings from them all the time, but that was when I was first starting out. Now the only way I'll take one is if it is just around the corner from me. I had to turn down several $50 signings before they got the message.

I like working with First American Title, but First American Signature is a pain. Unfortunately, they are the ones that give out the assignments.

Reply by hcampersFL on 6/20/06 7:35am
Msg #126943

I do believe that I have read on this board before about the outsourcing of notaries to India. This is not a new topic.
I am surprised by Cali's comment. I think I'm disappointed also.
b.

Reply by sue_pa on 6/20/06 7:41am
Msg #126944

they cannot outsource our jobs, no matter how hard they try. First Am has for quite some time outsourced a good portion of the insurance end - now it appears (and I also had one call a month or so ago with an accent so heavy I couldn't understand her) they are outsourcing at least some of the scheduling.

Reply by hcampersFL on 6/20/06 7:56am
Msg #126946

Sue your right. I didn't mean to say what I said

the way I said it. I was referring to the scheduling of appointments. Sorry about that.
b.

Reply by John_NorCal on 6/20/06 12:36pm
Msg #127021

I think outsourcing is a problem in every industry

look around at the computer "customer service" centers, the airlines, some medical billing services, this is a growing problem that we as working Americans are facing. As long as corporate America has no regard for the working person, they will continue to try to make the most bucks off the backs of workers.

Reply by Jahari Davis on 6/20/06 1:01pm
Msg #127031

Re: I think outsourcing is a problem in every industry

As long as corporations have carte blanche to do whatever they want with zero oversight, outsource til their hearts content, cut pension plans, healthcare, and up the salaries and golden parachutes of executive management, we dont have a prayer. I cant wait until they realize (right before the depression they created hits us all including them) that as long as people are broke and out of work, they simply cannot keep up so they can contribute to the economy and buy the goods they had manufactured overseas. How can I go shopping if I dont have a job, I'm broke and in debt?