Posted by JanetK_CA on 6/30/06 4:48pm
Msg #130125
Intolerable Behavior - Continuation
Thought I'd start another thread, since the other one is already getting lost in the shuffle (or is it just me...? ;> )
Here's my two cents:
1) OT message board - I like the idea very much. If it's just another tab above, I think it would still be easy for everyone to access. It would allow us to have the best of both worlds - one board that is still (or again...) just about notary issues and another one where people could come together as the community this board clearly has become. With the latter, people could post about whatever is on their minds and be able to enjoy and build on the friendships that have been made here. And we would know what to expect when going to that tab. This would be better than a chat room because people wouldn't have to be posting at the same time, but could still stay in touch.
And on the notary page, we wouldn't have to sift through multiples pages - per day - to try to stay up with whatever useful notary info might be there or to try to answer worthy questions. And it would be easier to keep track of follow-up responses to posts over a period of a few days. I find that very difficult and time consuming right now. If someone has a little time or a lot of time, they can choose which board to go to and find what they want - or what they're in the mood for. I think once everyone gets used to the idea, they'll love it!
2) Post Quotas - Prefer not to see it. The way our business works, we might not have any time to even read posts for days, then may suddenly have an afternoon off unexpectedly. So posts can tend to come in bursts sometimes. If we focus on the positive contributors, a limit could be everyone's loss. However, the fact that this has even come up maybe should be a message to us all to think before we post, and keep in mind that this is a message forum, not a chat room.
3) Private Messaging - I don't really care about this, although if people want to message privately, why not just use email? If they're not willing to disclose an email address, then I can't imagine they will be wanting to send messages that anyone would want to receive. jmo.
4) The Elimination of all Anon Posting - I don't have a real strong opinion about this because I think there may be times when an Anon post will allow someone to ask a question that needs to be asked that they might be afraid to otherwise. However, it has certainly gotten out of hand and I wouldn't be opposed to it.
5) Moderated Posts - Sounds like another headache waiting to happen to me. Instead, I'd like to recommend to all another approach to nasty posts and trouble makers that we could call "shunning". The problem isn't so much these posts as it is so many people's need to respond to them. How about a response with a simple 4-letter word ("shun!", if you must respond at all. And then ignore that thread. I think the trolls would go play somewhere else. Do you all think we could pull that off? Would it at least be worth a try? Then hopefully, those juvenile threads wouldn't take on a life of their own and we could get on with more positive and constructive things.
Harry, thank you very much once again for being responsive, creative and open to change! You provide us a great service and I hope we never abuse it to the point where we lose it!
| Reply by Bob_Chicago on 6/30/06 4:58pm
Msg #130129
Agree with all that you said, big time. Happy 4th to all N/M n/m
| Reply by christiSocal on 6/30/06 5:10pm
Msg #130132
I really like your "shun" idea. Awesome! n/m
| Reply by hcampersFL on 6/30/06 5:17pm
Msg #130134
I like the Shun idea also and will use it. n/m
| Reply by DM_SoCAl on 6/30/06 5:21pm
Msg #130135
Re: I like the Shun idea also and will use it.
I personally have stop reading any post with ANON in it, they have become a waste of time
| Reply by JanetK_CA on 6/30/06 5:36pm
Msg #130139
What I would prefer...
I think you have the right idea. I'd really rather see is us all ignoring those posts altogether. I can see a certain element complaining that the "shunning" is "mean", starting things all over again. If we mentally think "shun" and move on, that would be the ultimate solution, IMHO. The silence will speak very loudly!!! :>
| Reply by TitleGalCA on 6/30/06 8:01pm
Msg #130164
Agree...and normally I do the "shun" thing...
I spent all week keeping my fingers off the keyboard, being a responsible NR member...saw all the garbage posting in the last week and just kept quiet - I suppose I just got a bit perverse last night and tired of it all. The point of the back and forth was to show the Anons just how silly it was. Truly, I was just playing with the situation, hoping the sillyness of it all would be apparent but I think I failed.
However...I did get a nice email from not only several board members who very nicely pointed out the responsibility we all have (KR you are a classy lady!), but from the person who I was trading barbs with. I did apologise and asked for a truce...she graciously agreed (I think) and I hope no hard feelings. It's just not worth it, whether trying to prove a point or not, and the written word over the internet can be intrepreted waaaaaay different than intended. It's all about consistency!
| Reply by christiSocal on 6/30/06 9:07pm
Msg #130178
the problem is we all have our "hot" buttons
that just drives us nuts. A personal attack on a fav member or a percieved stupid question or whatever, it is sometimes Very hard to stop ourselves from responding. I know when I see a person I like "attacked" it's difficult to stop myself. I don't want the person to think I agree with the attacker. What if who ever sees something like that first, writes shun in the subject line and nothing else. Then when the rest of us see that we know the topic is responded to and taken care of, so the rest of us do not need to say anything more??? Anyone add to or have a better idea?
| Reply by BrendaTx on 6/30/06 9:39pm
Msg #130185
Re: the problem is we all have our "hot" buttons
I agree Christi...maybe we should all just agree that even though we do not respond, the support is still there... "Shun" is a good idea.
| Reply by MelissaCT on 6/30/06 11:13pm
Msg #130199
Re: the problem is we all have our "hot" buttons
1) An "off-topic" message board,
**The OT posts are listed as such. I've never been "tricked" into reading a post I thought was legit only to find out it's OT. I'm on the fence on this one.**
2) Post quotas - that is, limiting the number of posts a user can make in a day to a given board,
**I think it's a bit extreme, agree with previous responses**
3) Private messaging (to get a small amount of the trivial, person-to-person stuff off),
**Again, IM or email is already available elsewhere**
4) The elimination of all Anonymous capabilities, and
**I think this is a better idea**
5) The introduction of moderated "Anonymous" posts. Under this scheme, an outside user could submit a question to the board review group, which would need to be "approved" before posting. In theory, that would add more diversity to the board and increase quality while maintaining anonymity.
**May be difficult to oversee, given all the anon postings here on a daily basis**
There are times I start to respond & then just cancel because it's not worth it. As for ignoring repetitive questions, they'll just ask again, and again. Too bad an automatic search can't be done when someone is posting based on the keywords in their question -- that might eliminate some of the more repetitive basic questions we see multiple times every day.
| Reply by CaliNotary on 7/1/06 12:00am
Msg #130214
Re: What I would prefer...
I'm with you Janet. Once you realize that the only reason for any of these posts is to stir up sh*t on the board, it's really not that hard to just not even read them, or not waste anybody's time by responding to them. Even writing "shun" is showing that you read the post and are giving some sort of attention, and it's just something else for her to respond to.
I say just read around them and don't post any sort of response. But that'll never happen, there are STILL people responding to her, as though they really believe there's some possibility of what they say will have any impact on her.
And an added bonus, not bothering to read any of those posts makes this board a much nicer place to be. I barely know what's been going on here the past few days because I made a conscious choice to just skip over some of the endless threads about it all. I get what's happening in general, don't know too many of the details and don't want to know them.
| Reply by christiSocal on 7/1/06 12:44am
Msg #130221
Re: What I would prefer...
Ideally Cali, I agree with you. Just skip and ignore, but it never fails, someone always does respond. I was hoping, with the shun written there, that people would feel less of a need to respond. Don't know if it would work, just hoping.
| Reply by JanetK_CA on 7/1/06 1:01am
Msg #130224
High Five, CaliNotary!!
Excellent points, as usual! I think it may take some time for many to get the idea. Like ChristySoCal said, we all have our hotbuttons, but once we become aware that someone is just trying to push one of them, it gets easier to ignore it. I, too, can't tell you how many messages I've written and ended up not sending! If we can control those impulses, I think more and more will find "this board a much nicer place to be".
Have a wonderful, safe weekend everyone!!!
| Reply by ruru_CA on 7/1/06 11:19am
Msg #130243
Re: What I would prefer...
I like you idea even more.
| Reply by Nicole_NCali on 7/1/06 1:02pm
Msg #130256
I see..I responded before getting the whole pic
I responded to a post by the "disturbed one" before I read this post... Will not feed the beast one way or the other.
| Reply by CaliNotary on 7/1/06 1:45pm
Msg #130266
Re: I see..I responded before getting the whole pic
Yeah, I think it's kind of like trying to have a rational conversation with the rambling homeless guy on the corner. You can use all the logic in the world, but it's not going to make the slightest dent.
It's obvious that Erin has some mental problems, and I mean that literally. Half of her posts don't make a lick of sense and what sane person would behave in the way she does on this board? And then there's her profile which currently says:
"On vacation. Skating with my family. Taylor Harrison Rocks. Johnny Dash, Charlie McGee, Eli and Jib, all our boys, skate tough. Chance Wall......, Dillon much too good, my sweet man husband skater.....way too good on the halfpipe way too hot for me, I can't do that. I just cruise. I just watch. Make sure you do the right thing. Wear Pads and Rock, Long hair rules under a helmet. Wear your pads boys and girls."
She's just flat out crazy. Bless her heart.
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