Posted by BarbaraL_CA on 6/22/06 10:02pm
Msg #127699

RE: Message#33325 - Wealth of Information!!!!

I was just browsing 33325 and all the relevant messages attached to it. Do you realize the information collected in that message covers 14 months! I can't believe it's over a year since Dorothy started that. thread

All that good info ought to be organized and published as a book! I'd even be willing to do it, but I don't know if it's "legal" to take information posted on a public message board and publish it.

Maybe Harry should just put another blue tab at the top titled "How to Succeed as a Notary" and copy the 33325 thread to it.

Any other ideas? It seems like about every 5 or 10 messages say to "Click on orange search button and search for msg#33325".

Reply by BrendaTx on 6/22/06 10:11pm
Msg #127700

It's tha' bomb, isn't Barbara? If we let that secret out we'd all be out of a job.

Reply by Becca_FL on 6/22/06 10:20pm
Msg #127705

Ain't that the truth! n/m

Reply by TitleGalCA on 6/22/06 10:28pm
Msg #127706

33325 is how I learned everything about signings

My title company only supplemented that thread, and glued everything together. It is awesome.

Reply by Jenny_CA on 6/22/06 10:47pm
Msg #127712

Re: 33325 is how I learned everything about signings

A year ago I followed everything on that thread. Including purchasing the huge attache with which I banged myself on the handle with today in front of the customer ( I forgot to push the handle down and when I leaned down to taked out the journal .....Wham!! it was funny, the borrower tried not to laugh)

Anyhow, I did my first signing last July ( wow, it's been a year) and thanks to the contributers of that thread, this forum and SR I have been blessed with steady business.

BTW I was a notary public first but had not been exposed to the loan signing business before. I just received my second commission.

Reply by Marlene/USNA on 6/23/06 10:33am
Msg #127777

Re: Out of a job?

I don't think so. It's a lot of information, but a newbie still has to study it and apply it. As we have come to find out, most are not willing to do that.

We may be leading horses to water, but they still have to drink it themselves. Do you have a Texas saying better than that one, Brenda? It's begging for one. . .

Reply by AngelinaAZ on 6/23/06 12:11pm
Msg #127800

My unpopular opinion of #33325...

Now's a good time for one of my favorite business quotes... although it isn't very politically correct.

"Catch a man a fish and you can sell it to him. Teach a man to fish and you lose out on a great business opportunity............."

I used to tell everybody to 'go to #33325'. In fact, I think I once wrote a sappy message that I suggested we sweetly post to all the newbies. My opinion however, has since changed since I was exposed firsthand to the backhanded guttersnipe ways of the 'hobbyist SA's' that are after a quick $50 after work with docs printed on the office machine.

I think we should delete that thread or charge for access to it!
I'm joking (sort of). At the very least, I think we should just tell them to search... if they do, they will come across a reference to #33325 soon enough.

Go ahead... say it.... you're thinking it.... Angelina is such a *&%$#! Yeah... and?

Reply by LkArrowhd/CA on 6/23/06 1:39pm
Msg #127809

Re: My unpopular opinion of #33325...NOPE

Angelina to a point I agree, I often ask myself why is everyone answering these dumb questions, it's called have a brain figure it out but time and time again the same questions are asked and the same answers are given....

Reply by BrendaTx on 6/23/06 2:46pm
Msg #127823

Re: My unpopular opinion - I'm sorry, but I am laughing...

Welcome to the dark side LkA and Angelina.

It'll get better...it's like the stages of grief...first there's

Denial (There's no such thing as a dumb question.)

Anger (Use the freakin' frackin' stinkin' search button!!!!!)

Bargaining (I know!!! Let's make a newbie thread so they can find it easily and not ask the same questions all the time. [Birth of 33325])

Depression (We all look so stupid when people read this board and see all the yelling and fighting.)

Acceptance (So, how 'bout them Aggies? Jayhawks? Rangers? Astros?)

Reply by AngelinaAZ on 6/23/06 5:13pm
Msg #127837

Modification to the Stages of Grief...

1. Denial (There's no such thing as a dumb question.)

2. Anger (Use the freakin' frackin' stinkin' search button!!!!!)

3. Bargaining (I know!!! Let's make a newbie thread so they can find it easily and not ask the same questions all the time. [Birth of 33325])

4. Righteous Indignation (No matter what we do... they STILL don't do anything for themselves!!

5. Type and Delete (The most annoying stage of all... where you type a response to every idiot and then halfway through say "Oh screw it..." and delete it.)

6. Depression (We all look so stupid when people read this board and see all the yelling and fighting.)

7. Ignorance (If I scan the board really fast... I can just pretend that newbie post isn't there... then I won't have to answer it)

8. Acceptance (So, how 'bout them Aggies? Jayhawks? Rangers? Astros?)


I fully admit... I'm totally in the throes of stage number 7 right now... "If I can't see it, then it can't annoy me!"

Reply by Jon on 6/23/06 8:35pm
Msg #127867

Re: Modification to the Stages of Grief...

You guys forgot #9

9. Resignation (The dumb questions will continue forever, why even bother posting.)

That's where I've been for quite awhile, which is also why I very seldom post anymore.

Reply by JanetK_CA on 6/24/06 2:01am
Msg #127925

You collectively nailed it, folks! Great stuff!! Tks! n/m

Reply by Lee/AR on 6/23/06 2:46pm
Msg #127822

Well, I agree with you!Re: My unpopular opinion of #33325...

I honestly can't think of any other business where the competition expects to be handed EVERYTHING and thinks you're a nasty little so-and-so for not cooperating. To answer a specific question on a topic that is a rare occurance is one thing...to provide EVERYTHING in one swoop is just...well, not very astute business sense. (Read: stupid.) There, Angelina...you have company.

Reply by DM_SoCAl on 6/23/06 3:34pm
Msg #127830

Re: How bout them Red wings

I have to say that I have found this forum entertaining to say the least and very informative.
I am a new S/A as well as what seems to be the mortal enemy of S/A's a loan officer.
I came from a very competitive business in which if you didn't study,read everything possible and do your own research you would basically starve. I myself have no sympathy for anyone who isn't willing to do their own homework and especially none for someone who does this job for peanuts. I may be new but I also know what my time is worth and any one who undercuts that is not only sliting their own throat my mine as well.
So should all this info be free to us newbies,sure but if the rest actually do some research instead of just asking for help we would all be better off.

Reply by CaliNotary on 6/23/06 6:16pm
Msg #127851

Add me to the list

I said the exact same thing a couple of weeks ago in Msg #125790. Let these people sink or swim on their own merits, there is absolutely no reason for us to give them any help. The industry has changed for the worse over the past year or two, we need to think and act like business people, not like friendly neighbors.

Reply by Dorothy_MI on 6/23/06 3:34pm
Msg #127829

Many times I wish I hadn't started #33325

Even when we serve it up on a plate some still can't get it. I for one have just started answering questions by telling them to SEARCH using the orange button. But what can one expect from those who don't even LOOK at the first page or read Harry's instruction on the new post page??? When one jumps in and answers the questions several things happen; most won't retain the information longer than it takes to take the test or they do learn (because we taught them so well) and are now our competition or they become hobbyists picking up some easy after work money all the while taking the assignments during their regular work, using the fax machine, bosses telephone to confirm appointment as well as printing out docs on employer's computers and printers using employers paper and tone and electricty (a big reduction in overhead) and stealing business by quoting fees so low that anyone trying to do this as a profession and paying ALL their own overhead can not compete with and remain in business, then complain about the business and quickly move onto the next "get rich quick scheme".

Reply by AngelinaAZ on 6/23/06 5:35pm
Msg #127839

Re: Many times I wish I hadn't started #33325

***I for one have just started answering questions by telling them to SEARCH using the orange button.***

That's what I've started to do too.

I hope I didn't make you feel bad D-MI, my post was not meant to rag on you. It's a GREAT thread... The funny thing about it is that most newbies don't read it anyway.. even after we tell them to. They just keep asking and asking.

Reply by BrendaTx on 6/23/06 7:41pm
Msg #127858

Re: Many times I wish -- Dorothy...

Gal, it was for good, not evil.

We were but dewey eyed girls the year we started that thread...barely too old for slumber parties. Just look at my picture now...you'd think I was a 40-somthing woman peeping around the corner at 50...you'd never know I am 26.

This is what signing has done to me.

Reply by Tina/Idaho on 6/23/06 6:03pm
Msg #127850

Re: My unpopular opinion of #33325...

I don't post very often, but totally agree with you. Since it has been slow this week, I've been taking the time to go back to the beginning of Notary Talk and working my way forward. Looking for new marketing ideas that I may have overlooked when I first did it 2 years ago. I am amazed by all the newbies asking such basic questions. But what I have found interesting is the fact that the majority of them have never been heard from again. Oh, maybe for a little bit, but not long term. I am assuming that most are no longer in the business and have been replaced by others that are just as lazy.

I have built up a very strong business, but only due to tons of work. Nothing handed on a platter. Many times I want to respond to different posts, but have not because of "giving away the business". Which is a shame, becasue I have learned so much by this forum. I appreciate many of the questions asked, but not when it comes to the basics!

Please don't stop posting. My family still laughs at the "alien" story. I've read it to all of them!

Reply by Signing_Doc on 6/24/06 1:38am
Msg #127923

Re: My unpopular opinion of #33325...

"Now's a good time for one of my favorite business quotes... although it isn't very politically correct." "Catch a man a fish and you can sell it to him. Teach a man to fish and you lose out on a great business opportunity......."

I knew I heard that saying from somewhere else and, sure enough it was from my well worn book of The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition...and I quote (ahem ahem)..."Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #207...Give someone a fish, you feed him for one day. Teach him how to fish, and you lose a steady customer." (Wise beings these Ferengi's...) "Doc"

Reply by AngelinaAZ on 6/24/06 6:27pm
Msg #128008

Wise beings...

I don't know who said the one I posted.... Brenda thought it might have been Mark Twain??? I never thought it would have been the Ferengis...LOL.

I always thought Spock had the right idea about life... "Live long and prosper".