Posted by LkArrowhd/CA on 6/25/06 10:35pm
Msg #128373

Terrific Success, Great Job Brenda! May all good doggies

have fun doggies dreams tonight......What a Notary Team!

Reply by Dee_Fla on 6/26/06 1:37am
Msg #128390

Re: isnt this a contradiction though?

I don't want to sound negative in any way...and from what I read about Sylvia and her dog...its good that this team band together to help. However, I have a cat who went though the very same thing was in the Animal hospital for 2 weeks and I 'm stuck with the bill, I don't see anyone rescuing us from this bill? I know I know I didnt say anything, why?

Why? Cuz when I brought up collecting money--oops I mean used cartridges to raise money for muscular dystrophy for my son and many children like him, most of you had a fit and made a very big deal over it and said it was inappropiate for us to post at this site asking for donations.

So ...as much as I would love to help you Brenda in raising funds for Sylvia's dog, I'm still trying to pay off the hospital bill for my cat, Sunny and trying to raise money for MY son so he can obtain better treatment, care and a CURE for his life.

As I said, I don't want to sound negative, nor do I want to offend anyone in anyway ...so i apologize if I do...but I certainly do find a big contradiction here on how you decide who gets to raise money for and who you don't.

Thank you to those who are helping raising funds via recycling 4 Tim through recycling your cartridges!

...just my thought.

Reply by Dee_Fla on 6/26/06 2:05am
Msg #128397

Re: isnt this a contradiction though?

also see my message on 128396 in regards to this.

Reply by CaliNotary on 6/26/06 2:43am
Msg #128402

Re: isnt this a contradiction though?

You really had to post this six different times? That really is the exact difference between your situation and Sylvia's situation.

I just did some checking. In message 83118 you made a post soliciting donations for the PPMD Disney marathon. Nobody said anything about your request being inappropriate for the board. In message 92355 you made a post asking for donations for airline reward points. A discussion ensued about Jerry Lewis and MD, but nobody said anything about your request being inappropriate for the board.

Message 110478, a request from you for recycling ink cartridges, nobody said anything about your request being inappropriate for the board. Message 109635, an anonymous person posts a request to make donations to the March of Dimes. THAT is the one that got jumped all over. And your name is nowhere to be found in that thread, but I'm assuming that you were the anonymous poster.

So do you really need this spelled out for you? The only time anybody jumped all over you was when you posted anonymously. If Sylvia came anonymously on this board and asked for a donation for her dog, do you really think the reaction would be the same? Or do you think it would be much more in line than the reactions you got when you posted anonymously?

The fact is, when you posted under you own name in the messages I referenced earlier, nobody said a word about your posts being inappropriate. THOSE are the messages you need to be looking at in comparison, not the anonymous one. It's not our fault you decided to make the plea for donations anonymously.

So for you to come on this board and act like some great injustice was done to you is just plain tacky, to put it mildly. And for you to make a total of 6 posts whining about it is downright gross.

But I'm going to post this after all 6 of your posts, just to make sure you don't miss it.

Reply by CaliNotary on 6/26/06 2:57am
Msg #128407

Oops, I forgot my original point

Even though Al has kind of already made it now in this thread. But the point was that this was a one shot deal for Sylvia (and that's leaving out the point that Sylvia didn't even start this). While you Dee have come on here numerous times asking for various donations, and it took several solicitations from you before anybody commented on the inappropriateness of it.

I can guarantee you that if Sylvia came on here again and again over the next few months asking for more donations for her dog, by the third request she'd get an earful of how inappropriate she was being as well.

There is such a thing as overkill, and your multiple requests for donations, plus your multiple responses to get your point across about this situation cross into that territory.

Reply by BrendaTx on 6/26/06 7:00am
Msg #128412

Oops, I forgot my original point - my last word on the "nay"

** I can guarantee you that if Sylvia came on here again and again over the next few months asking for more donations for her dog, by the third request she'd get an earful of how inappropriate she was being as well. **

If anyone is mad about this, kick ME. Sylvia did not do this. Just wanted to clarify that. Just for the record, there is only ONE other notary person who might make me brainstorm a week on how to help him out with a personal need *if* one existed. It would be based on what all he's contributed to *notaries* because that's the focus of my writing, such as it is.

There is a huge, huge difference between me, who will say *Go read your handbook!!!!* and a person who has patiently answered question after question *without* question for literally YEARS...someone who has been a saint among us at upgrading the knowledge of notaries at large. That person is PAW.

This situation was an opportunity to the giver to feel that for once they could do more than merely say *thanks!* and move on to someone who has done so much for our kind. No one stood around to strong arm anyone. No one will know if they did not give.

To naysayers I'd say, build a blog, or build a community, or start a newsletter, grow a readership and you can reach people with messages dear to your own heart. Be inspired by something and go do it. Yeah, it takes awhile, but it's all in your priorities.

Reply by MichiganAl on 6/26/06 2:26am
Msg #128401

Very different situation

One - Sylvia didn't initiate it. She didn't come here asking for help, someone else wanted to do something nice for her.

Two - We all get hit with charity requests on a daily basis so maybe some people felt like it was just another in a long barrage of daily pitches we get. This wasn't a charity request. It was friends helping out another friend.

Three - It's Sylvia. Hundreds of us (probably thousands) owe her a debt of gratitude for everything she's done to advance this industry and our careers. It's hard not to feel a personal connection, even for those who barely know her.

I'm sorry; MS is an awful illness and a worthy cause. I'll certainly keep your recycling program in mind. But contributing to another charity (of which many of us do on a frequent basis) and helping out a mentor and friend in an emergency situation seems very different to me.

Reply by MichiganAl on 6/26/06 3:23am
Msg #128408

And after reading Cali's post and verifying it's accuracy...

I'm even more sure that the situation is completely different. A friend posting to help a friend versus an anonymous plea to contribute to a charity. Just a little different. You have certainly misrepresented what really happened with your past charity requests. I respect your enthusiasm for giving and wanting others to contribute. You should be commended. But I don't think distorting the truth or playing the "hey, what about me?" card will help your cause(s).

Your son will be in my prayers tonight.

Reply by DellaCa on 6/26/06 11:26am
Msg #128507

Re: Very well said AL n/m

Reply by BrendaTx on 6/26/06 6:40am
Msg #128410

Re: isnt this a contradiction though?

**but I certainly do find a big contradiction here on how you decide who gets to raise money for and who you don't. **

Dee, You are 100% correct. There *is* a big contradiction on how people do *all* things. I put this in my newsletter and it grew from there. Dogs are near to my heart and dog love is something that affects me among other things which do not need to be mentioned here.

It was my decision to put it my newsletter because it's my newsletter and I write it so that I can put MY spin on things out there to be read. It's not the Washington Post...it's a little hokey, personal thing I do *for* myself. I don't have to have PC policies because I do not charge for it.

That it got to this board was a fluke, albeit to me, a welcomed one. The response speaks for itself. I will not defend this further. If Harry is unhappy with me, then I will accept the consequences. However, I will not answer to anyone else for it.

I take issue with only one thing you have said in your post and that is "As I said, I don't want to sound negative, nor do I want to offend anyone in anyway..." I think posting reference to this post multiple times shows you *did* want to show opposition to this. That's my opinion only.

Believe me, you are not the only person is/who will be offended by this. All are all entitled to feel / say the way you feel.

Reply by LkArrowhd/CA on 6/26/06 7:55am
Msg #128426

Re: isnt this a contradiction though? To Dee

All I can say is there is a huge difference here and it most likely something you will never be able to understand, even if I personally tried by calling you. It's kind of like someone either has talent or they don't, it's a given, it's 100% natural. Did you happen to catch 60 minutes last night-the little boy and his talent, he had it, the most brillant of docs can't explain it. This is nothing personal about you Dee, I'm certain you are a very nice person and the best to you and your Tim. But if you can't see the difference here, you never will.

Reply by Dee_Fla on 6/26/06 9:13am
Msg #128444

Re: isnt this a contradiction though? To Dee

#1 I know Slyvia didn't post it as I said in one of my post, I know it was Brenda and I did applaud that...incase you missed it.

#2 I only post it several times or made metioned it cuz new threads were created and went on and on about it....for the updates. Which was nice too. But the more I read the angrier or the more hurt I was feeling. And Sue...I'm not aware of you ever calling me. I'm sure you might had, but I don't recall seeing a number or hearing a message on my voice mail. It doesnt matter. that is not the point.

#3 Don't get angry at me cuz I expressed my concern ...and the fact that I ADVOCATE for my son and his MD (not MS!!! big difference but that is ok, alot of ppl make that mistake). I advocate when I can, cuz every penny counts in saving my son's life. I had to give up my job and alot of things to be his only caregiver!!! I work part time as a CNSA cuz there are needs he needs that medicaid won't even touch and because we can't survive ont he little we have. I get very little or no support from our community and family. So any support I can get is helpful.

#4 I have NOTHING against Slyvia, never did. Nor have I of Brenda. I know you expressed your concern in the past of the charity thing. But still the fact is that there are some contradictions here. In a sense..what you did was a charity case for her dog.

But when a parent shares something that is important to her, instead of AGAIN jumping down my back cuz I share my concern....

#5 I do see the difference.... a big difference. Cuz Sylvia has been here longer and "contributed" longer she gets more attention then those who has not. I'm not saying she doesnt deserve it...cuz I'm more then sure her dog needs it. I know...my cat went through the same thing and it is considered deadly for male cats as I'm sure it is for male dogs...it does not make me or my concern LESS important or a less concern. I have a heart too...and as I said before, I was NOT trying to offend or hurt anyone 's feeling but trying to understand how in the past whether it was my cause or the march of dimes by the other Notary Mom, why you all felt so compell to have a "fit" over it and yet reached out so quickly for another notary member.

Brenda...I know your heart is for sure in the right place and that you are doing the right thing...that I don't really have a problem with or the issue is. I as this other mom just suddenly feel like we or our children are less important then a family dog. Damn it... our kids want to live to...they need things to survive on too...so we are nobodies cuz we bring up projects to reach out????

Forget this.... I can't believe the cruel responds you have.... You people cold and heartless and YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND WHAT we as parent have to do fight for our kids lives!!!!!

I'm sorry.... I'm sorry for being angry and hurt....but I am! you have NO idea how this really hurt me again! I'm sorry I ever brought it up and I'm sorry if it was an "insult" to you but you have no idea how much more you ended hurting me. Your words were cruel and cold.

Reply by Becca_FL on 6/26/06 9:20am
Msg #128449

Dee please, before this goes any further...

Cuz is NOT a word and if I have to read it in one more post of yours I'll just SCREAM!!!!!

Please, please, please, if you want people to take you seriously use real words.

Reply by Dee_Fla on 6/26/06 9:24am
Msg #128454

Re: Dee please, before this goes any further...

becca...its quick hand!!! short for cause or because..... if you have been online as long as I have u will find it handy....

but why does it matter??? and i'm sorry it bothers you!!

Reply by Becca_FL on 6/26/06 9:42am
Msg #128461

Re: Dee please, before this goes any further...

I don't care what you call it. I find your writing style so irritating that I just can't read your posts. You are an adult, write like one. That's all I'm saying.

Reply by Dee_Fla on 6/26/06 9:27am
Msg #128457

Re: Dee please, before this goes any further...

why do you have to find every little tiny thing to criticize ppl with????? so go ahead and scream!!! its just a dman word!!!! its not the issue at hand .... its not an important word!!

just another way to find a way to keep hurting ppl that's all...its a game u all play to hurt feelings. and hey I read some place that this is a 'cruel world" well you know what? it is cuz we make it that way...we allowed society to make us that way...we DON'T HAVE TO BE...its a choice we make.

Reply by Becca_FL on 6/26/06 9:37am
Msg #128460

No Dee. You have it wrong again.

I had to post because you obviously believe (by the way you sprinkle it throughout all of your posts) that cuz IS a real word. I am not criticizing you, but am simply pointing out that you are making a consistent mistake. Perhaps, if your English teacher or parents had pointed this out to you, I would not need to do so now. I am correcting you to help you.

I just find it hard to take you seriously when you keep using a non-existent word.

Reply by Anonymous on 6/26/06 9:48am
Msg #128464

No she AIN'T!!!!! CUZ it's a free country.

Get over yourself Becca.

Reply by Anonymous on 6/26/06 9:46am
Msg #128463

Dee...Becca is a miserable person

don't pay any attention to her. She will never have anything nice to say. When somebody else rags on another person, you can count on Becca to jump right in when she knows nothing. Who cares if you irritate her? She irritates many. She only feels good about herself when she is picking on others. Ignore her and all of the other mean rotten and holier than thou in this room. Becca does not type perfectly and half of her posts suggest less than a GED for education. Rock on Dee and forget this little bitty.

Reply by Becca_FL on 6/26/06 10:45am
Msg #128486

Anon & Anon72...

Do you ever really listen or do you just go through life hearing what you want to hear regardless of what's being said? Take off your blinders for Goodness sake. You are both missing so much. Don't call me miserable just because you are.

Now, I'm looking forward to a very busy day and a late night. Then, it's off for a two week cruise on my private yacht. Miserable? You're joking, right?

Reply by MichiganAl on 6/26/06 11:07am
Msg #128501

Dee, I have a family member I'd like to tell you about.

She is always the martyr. Always a victim. A good deed for someone else somehow hurts her. The facts are always grossly twisted. She remembers bad deeds perpetrated against her that never happened and cruel words that were never said. But she believes them in her head as if they were true. Instead of supporting a positive moment for someone else, she shows jealousy. The moment always has to be about her, never anyone else. She is sometimes miserable to be around. Trying to explain any of this to her has always been a complete waste of breath. The world is against her and only her. I fear that trying to explain any of this to you will be a complete waste of breath as well.

Reply by Anonymous on 6/26/06 11:22am
Msg #128506

Becca once said in a post sometime ago that she hates.....

children. It might have been on the GMN board. That explains a lot about her and her mean, negative posts on this subject!!!

Reply by Becca_FL on 6/26/06 11:34am
Msg #128508

There you go again Anon...

Remembering what you want, hearing only what you want to hear and not taking everything into consideration. Are you just norrow minded or do you suffer from selective memory?

Reply by Anonymous on 6/26/06 11:51am
Msg #128524

GMN board 10/14/05. No, not selective memory at all! You...

stated" I HATE KIDS"! Has your opinion of parenthood changed in the past 8 months?

Reply by Becca_FL on 6/26/06 11:55am
Msg #128528

Re: GMN board 10/14/05. No, not selective memory at all! You

Read the WHOLE thread you idiot AND the one that followed the next day or so. You were HAD! You are just too easy. LOL

What a fool!

Reply by Anonymous on 6/26/06 11:34am
Msg #128509

Let's not get personal on Becca...

she may not really hate children. It could be that her bitterness has caused her uterus to dry up and fall out. Therefore she cannot have any.

Reply by Anonymous on 6/26/06 11:36am
Msg #128510

Re: Let's not get personal on Becca...

And spellcheck, what is that? Norrow minds.....weren't you just berating somebody else for their use of the English language? Leave Becca alone to go work on the yacht.

Reply by Becca_FL on 6/26/06 11:40am
Msg #128514

Oh, certainly NOT the case at all...

Not that it's any of your business, but if you must know, I choose not to have children. Not everyone on the planet needs to procreate to prove their worth to society. It's hard enough getting a babysitter for the dog. What the heck would I do with the rug rats when I take off for my eight+ weeks of vacation each year?

You Anons are soo easy.

Reply by Anonymous on 6/26/06 12:02pm
Msg #128535

Better off Becca can't pollute a precious young mind.

Spreading her hatred and bitterness. Great choice Becca!!

Reply by CaliNotary on 6/26/06 12:14pm
Msg #128539

Re: Better off Becca can't pollute a precious young mind.

Plus, she can have sex on the dining room table and not have to worry about being interrupted. Great choice Becca!

Reply by Anonymous on 6/26/06 12:15pm
Msg #128541

ROTFLMAO!!!!!! No binkie in her sphincter!!! n/m

Reply by Becca_FL on 6/26/06 12:17pm
Msg #128543

Amen to that Cali! n/m

Reply by BrendaTx on 6/26/06 11:43am
Msg #128517

Re: Dee, I have a family member - AL

I believe we must share a family tree branch.

Reply by Marlene/USNA on 6/26/06 1:38pm
Msg #128584

Al's family member is channeling my mother! n/m

Reply by CaliNotary on 6/26/06 12:12pm
Msg #128537

Re: isnt this a contradiction though? To Dee

"I'm sorry.... I'm sorry for being angry and hurt....but I am! you have NO idea how this really hurt me again! I'm sorry I ever brought it up and I'm sorry if it was an "insult" to you but you have no idea how much more you ended hurting me. Your words were cruel and cold."

Wow. For you to take it personally and be angry and hurt because some people on this board chose to help Sylvia says LOADS about your character. Just because your son has MS does NOT give you the right to be so self absorbed and petty. You call us cold and heartless when we've just raised over $1000 in a single day for a friend on this board?

Here's a blunt possibllity; maybe people on this board simply like Sylvia more than they like you. It happens in life. I"m sure that there are quite a few people who sent dontations yesterday who wouldn't send one red cent if it were me in the same situation instead of Sylvia. And I can certainly understand why. I've made my choices in life how to relate to people, Sylvia has made hers, and this is the outcome she's gotten because of it. Call it karma.

Meanwhile YOUR behavior has pretty much guaranteed that you've just cut notaryrotary off as a source of any future help for you and/or MS. You say that every penny is important, yet you still chose to put your OWN FEELINGS above the need for those pennies and tell us how hurt you are and how cruel and cold and heartless we are. Talk about narcissistic. Your son deserves better than that, doesn't he?

You were dealt a crappy hand in life with the MS. Suck it up. It's your cross to bear, stop trying to burden other people with it. We have our own crosses to bear.