Posted by cyndi_ca on 3/17/06 1:15pm
Msg #106281
Bonds and Oaths
I received a call to subscribe the oath of office for a new notary. Anything in particular I should know other than the obvious, ie; identity. Couldn't find much in my SOS book. TIA for your advice.
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Reply by Blueink_CA on 3/17/06 2:52pm
Msg #106324
Hi Cyndi, just an easy notarization, with preprinted jurat wording. Make sure the signer signs in your presence. There should be two originals to notarize.
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Reply by Gerry_VT on 3/17/06 3:09pm
Msg #106333
I don't know what the rules are in California, but some states do not allow a notary to charge a fee for administering an oath of office. Perhaps you didn't plan to charge a fee anyway, but you were, you might want to check if you are allowed to.
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Reply by cyndi_ca on 3/17/06 3:48pm
Msg #106339
Thanks for your reponses. I didn't even think about the fees. Will check into that. Thank you too
Blue Ink
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Reply by Anonymous on 3/17/06 4:07pm
Msg #106346
Why answer if you're not from the same state?
The question was state-particular. Do you just answer to hear yourself talk? Cyndi, it's a simple notarization. Yes, you can charge a fee for travel and the signature.
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Reply by cyndi_ca on 3/17/06 4:08pm
Msg #106348
Re: Why answer if you're not from the same state? Thank you n/m
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Reply by cyndi_ca on 3/17/06 4:07pm
Msg #106347
Gerry
Just so's ya know's can charge for the oath. Learn something new everyday.
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Reply by Anonymous on 3/17/06 4:12pm
Msg #106350
Wrong!
You are not charging for an oath in California: You are charging for the notarized signature that requires an oath. Re-read your book Cyndi or call someone else from the SOS.
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Reply by Blueink_CA on 3/17/06 4:17pm
Msg #106353
Anon, don't you have any signings today?
If you do, drive fast, take chances!
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Reply by cyndi_ca on 3/17/06 4:22pm
Msg #106357
Re: Wrong!
Sec 8211 b) For administering an oath or affirmation to one person and executing the jurat, including the seal, the sum of ten dollars ($10). I wasn't suggesting to charge only for the oath. And I read my book thank you very much.
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Reply by Terri_CA on 3/17/06 4:22pm
Msg #106358
Remember to give this oath, your principal place of business must be in the same county where the new notary is filing their oath and bond. And the paperwork for the new notary must be received by the County Clerk within 30 days of receiving the commission.
Terri
Lancaster, CA
California Notary Exam Instructor
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Reply by cyndi_ca on 3/17/06 4:30pm
Msg #106360
Thanks Terri. I do know that the new notary and husband live in same county, but I intend to double check. Thanks, and they are aware of filing procedures.
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Reply by Anonymous on 3/17/06 5:22pm
Msg #106400
Terri
Okay, so are you charging $10 for the oath that goes with the Jurat, or are you charging $10 for the oath as Cyndi thinks she is???
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Reply by cyndi_ca on 3/17/06 6:23pm
Msg #106433
Re: Annoying/I mean anon
As I stated before. Charge for the oath and jurat you dork. What don't you get? Life?
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Reply by Terri_CA on 3/19/06 2:03pm
Msg #106817
Re: Terri
The California Jurat = Oath or Affirmation. When performing a Jurat notarization, the CA notary must give an oath or affirmation to each signer. Hense, it's all one "notary act" per signer performed.
You do the math 
Terri
Lancaster, CA
California Notary Exam Instructor
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Reply by TitleGalCA on 3/17/06 5:45pm
Msg #106416
Question: Okay, it's been four years but
I thought the oath was given to the notary at the County Clerk's office, then you hand over the bond (along with a recording fee) for it to be filed to same notary. At least that's how I've done it three times now.
What's changed? Why are ordinary notaries giving the oath to new notaries? I'll be doing this in about a week, so I'm really curious.
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Reply by TitleGalCA on 3/17/06 5:48pm
Msg #106419
part 2: Don't all County Clerks have someone on staff to
administer oaths of office?
I understand a notary can take oaths...I just thought it was all done in one place. Never heard of going outside the County office to give the oath.
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Reply by Brenda Stone on 3/17/06 5:51pm
Msg #106422
Re: part 2: Don't all County Clerks have someone on staff to
>>>Never heard of going outside the County office to give the oath.<<<
TX notaries give oaths of office. I went to a notary to take mine.
Other notaries in Texas. Get Legit! Check your commission papers with your edu materials and GO take your oath if you have not. Not supposed to notarize until you do.
That was a freebie.
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Reply by SarahBeth_CA on 3/17/06 5:56pm
Msg #106423
Re: part 2: Don't all County Clerks have someone on staff t
Ok I would have to look this one up. My fuzzy memory says that we are going through the process of getting our commision we can have another notary give us the oath then they mail in paperwork. Now I know I have the details screwy. But I do remember that I didn't want my paperwork going through the mail. I chose to drive into San Berdo from Victorville to physically hand the paperwork to them and take my oath.
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Reply by TitleGalCA on 3/17/06 5:58pm
Msg #106425
SarahBeth:
Didn't you go to the Recorders' on Hospitality...down the hall, the clerk's office took your bond and administered the oath??
My commission is still in San Bernardino County, I swear that's how I did it...twice.
I just assumed all Clerks office had a notary on staff to save people the trouble of going out and giving the oath...
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Reply by SarahBeth_CA on 3/17/06 6:04pm
Msg #106428
Re: SarahBeth:
That's exactly what I did.
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Reply by Blueink_CA on 3/17/06 6:00pm
Msg #106427
Re: part 2: Don't all County Clerks have someone on staff t
A new (or renewing) notary has the option to 'File in person' (County Clerk's Office) or 'File by Mail' (find a notary in the county where your oath will be filed). It's been like this for at least the past eight years. To file by mail takes a little longer but sometimes it's more convenient.
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Reply by TitleGalCA on 3/17/06 6:16pm
Msg #106430
Wow, I suppose it could be done by mail...
but can't imagine anybody doing that, I guess, just because I haven't! LOL!
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Reply by cyndi_ca on 3/17/06 6:27pm
Msg #106436
Re: Wow, I suppose it could be done by mail...
You can give your oath to another notary and then send it by certified mail to the county recorders office for filing. When I went in for my Oath, the clerk did it right there. Doubt if she was even a notary. I think this is a convience thing for these people. Appt is for Sat., so I imagine one or both work during the week.
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Reply by TitleGalCA on 3/17/06 6:28pm
Msg #106438
I think it's time for some coffee...
I just re-read the whole thing and I sound like an idiot. It must be Friday.
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Reply by cyndi_ca on 3/17/06 6:30pm
Msg #106440
Re: I think it's time for some coffee...
Trust me my greecian partner, you a far from an idiot. Have a great weekend and not time for coffee it's St. Pat's. Put some Bailey's in it woman!
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Reply by SarahBeth_CA on 3/17/06 6:33pm
Msg #106443
Re: I think it's time for some coffee...
Forget the coffee just pour me a baileys.
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Reply by cyndi_ca on 3/17/06 6:35pm
Msg #106445
Re: I think it's time for some coffee...
Does this mean now that we will be having cocktail hour as well as dinner and breakfast. Ok, I'll have a mudslide. Used to be a bartender. I can make anything. Order-up!
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Reply by TitleGalCA on 3/17/06 6:37pm
Msg #106447
That does sound good... fellow goddess'
Methinks a stop on the way home is necessary!
now, If I am posting gobble-de-gook at 9pm tonight...just tell me to go to bed.
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Reply by cyndi_ca on 3/17/06 6:38pm
Msg #106448
Re: That does sound good... fellow goddess' You've got it n/m
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Reply by BrendaTx on 3/19/06 2:28pm
Msg #106825
Re: part 2: Don't all County Clerks - for Tx Notary friends
History Lesson -
You used to have to find a notary BEFORE you got your commission.
You had to go swear you'd uphold your duties prior to your application being accepted.
Now, you apply, you get your commission and on the back is your oath of office.
Just for fun, go ahead and take it to a local notary to do it. Yell at them because they do not have you swear or affirm but will merely sign and stamp it. Start crying and tell them they ruined your notary life.
Refuse to sign their book. (They will not realize you do not have to do so in Tx any longer.)
Then, hand them a piece of paper with "Just kidding....I'll sign but you ARE supposed to have the notary raise their hand for an OATH.
Beware that the Notary Police are everywhere. If you don't believe it, check the internet. That "Bible Thumping Who__" named Brenda is one of them. "
Okay, that was a long way around getting to the Bible Thumping WHOR_ statement that was emailed to Korey.
However, I know that the person who hates me enough to write that about me is one of the few who would read this diatribe. To the person who wrote that...I think you probably know by now that I know 99% surely who you are. I had a couple of people look at your email over the weekend and you are a smug one who needs to realize that you, just like Scott Peterson, are not as smart as you think you are. Get a life "sweetie."
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