Posted by MB_AZ on 3/2/06 11:16pm
Msg #101553

Maybe I missed something

I have been busy this week but always try to check in with NR to see what's going on. What I do see that really IRKS me is after the fiasco with KH-MA and BS_TX, I see KH trying to rule the forum and I have ZERO respect and give ZERO credibility in anything he/she says. I vote to have KH banned from the forum for not following the rules that NR "Harry" had us all agree upon and for his/her unprofessionalizm over the past year. I'm approaching my renewal date for NR and I'm having a hard time deciding due to the lack of policing of the ethics of this forum. I'm also a Realtor and have been instilled with the strict code of ethics we swear to but I see the notary world is lacking in this area (and you know who you are). I'm not in a click here nor do I have any email buds here but I do look to NR as my sounding board, for professional opinions and a few laughs. JMPO!

Reply by FlaMac on 3/3/06 6:52am
Msg #101580

If you ignore it..they will go away....

although I broke my own rule last week by responding to an argumentative/personal posting. But, I wanted to know what all the arguing was about since I don't read every single thread. I do understand what many are complaining about where sockpuppets are concerned. Now that I know what to look for...multiple post's by the same person of many names is easy to spot.

If you get quality signings from your NotaryRotary subscription, why cancel? I think you'd be hurting your own business. It's a shame Harry can't stop the personal crapola...but I doubt he has the time to read every single post...further, I don't want him to cause he might need to raise our membership fee again

Reply by Charm_AL on 3/3/06 7:29am
Msg #101588

Re: If you ignore it..they will go away....

not true, ignoring only made it worse for everyone last year. What had and has been done is trying to show the the errors of one's ways. I believe I have found nothing offensive in KH's posts since our last 'on board discussion.'
The posts of late have shown a significant improvement. I'm proud of the way the content has been toned down and the self advertising has ceased. It helps him to fit in a little better and with time, I hope more people start to forget about last year if he stays on track....jmho.

It certainly would help get some integrity and professionalism back to this place.

Also, I agree with the Michigan poster whom had the idea that the few newbies posting to everything, a lot of it incorrect or useless should not treat this forum as a chat board.
That being said, I'm off to look for a Friday OT...

Reply by FlaMac on 3/3/06 7:41am
Msg #101594

I'm an ole-timer and post when I feel I have something..

useful-interesting-funny to input. Every state has its own laws thereby much of what is stated doesn't apply to me. I didn't read any of the "personal" posts last year. It's why I kept complaining about trying to weed thru all the threads.

But, the other day my curiosity got the best of me and I broke my own rule of "staying out of it." I agree with you about certain folks becoming more professional of late. I take that as a good sign. But, this forum is more chat room than professional forum. It's why we need a NATIONAL SIGNING AGENT ASSOCIATION. Every state could have it's own section for pertinent info for each of our area's. JMHO, of course

Reply by FlaMac on 3/3/06 7:58am
Msg #101605

Charm, meant to tell you.....

that your OT the other day about the Living Will was very funny. It was coincidental for me because a life long friend is currently brain dead but being kept alive because his mentally-emotionally disturbed brother won't let them turn the machines off. My friend would not approve but he didn't put anything in writing before going into surgery. He honestly thought that he would be just fine.

I thought about mailing your Living Will to the brother but realized that it would go right over his head. Further proof to never leave your life in the hands of another. Not to sound like Shirley McClain...but maybe my friend is sending me a message via Charm's good sense of humor?

On the serious side, Doctor's don't tell you it's time to pull the plug because they want to go play golf. They tell you because they are Doctor's and know death when they see it.

Reply by LawrenceOK on 3/3/06 7:46am
Msg #101598

Re: If you ignore it..they will go away....

I guess I missed that post Charm. I have also noticed a few new names on the board posting to every topic.

Reply by Mike_IA on 3/3/06 8:10am
Msg #101610

It's sad but NR is a chat room not a professional forum. Do

you think that a web site for professionals like doctors, lawyers, engineers, realtors, etc. would have all the O/T jokes, daily good morning greetings, requests to some individual to email me or I sent you an email and instead of asking the lender I'll just post here and so on. My point is the whole tone of NR is like a college BS session with lots of chaff and very little wheat.

Reply by FlaMac on 3/3/06 8:23am
Msg #101614

All very good points but what's a SA to do? n/m

Reply by Charm_AL on 3/3/06 8:34am
Msg #101617

Re: All very good points but what's a SA to do?

freedom of choice, there are other forums if this one isn't up to your liking. GMN is one of them. It's not unprofessional to say good morning or have discussions on something other than my embosser. This just happens to attract that crowd. If someone wants to find an answer related to a specific notarial procedure/question, there's always the search button. The OT in the subject line means pass it up, it's not notary related.

Reply by SatomiCO on 3/3/06 9:04am
Msg #101630

Re: Well said Charm.

Read, don't read. Participate, don't participate. Stay, move on.

If someone's got a problem with the board or poster, then tell Harry offline. Don't police the board yourself because those posts can be just as annoying.

Reply by FlaMac on 3/3/06 9:10am
Msg #101632

Actually I agree but I try to respect all points of view...

What I see in the future is this forum and another one that is strictly for business. Hopefully. This is an excellent place to network (chat) and at least it's got all of us talking about important issues. It's also filled with valuable information for those who search for it. JMHO, of course

Reply by AngelinaAZ on 3/3/06 9:56am
Msg #101658

Be careful what you ask for!!!

I agree that this board can get looking a little like a chatroom. When I am home waiting for docs or going to and from jobs... sometimes I will check the board a few times a day. And depending on my mood... some days I'll post more than others!

But the GOOD THING ABOUT IT IS THAT PEOPLE DO CHECK IT! When there are issues, they get dealt with... and nine times out of ten it is very quickly. There are other VERY PROFESSIONAL forums out there but to tell you the truth... the answers don't come near as fast as they do on this board.... On this board, when you post a serious question... yeah ok you might get a few answers that are off point or not state specific but if you wait twenty minutes... you'll get the answer you were looking for! On other sites you can wait up to 24 hours for a professional opinion. Sometimes you won't have 24 hours.

This board is what it is... and just maybe... some of the fun and drama we have IS what keeps people coming back... and people on the board is what gets those questions answered quickly! I don't know about you, but in college, I enjoyed my fast paced American Government class taught by an outspoken lobbyist WAY MORE than my Calculus class!

Enjoy it for what it is! Life is too short to be so legalistic!

Reply by AngelinaAZ on 3/3/06 10:00am
Msg #101660

Sorry Charm, this addresses the original topic!

You and I see eye to eye on this point!

Reply by Marlene/USNA on 3/3/06 9:26am
Msg #101643

Re: It IS a chat board. . .

. . .when OTs are posted or topics are answered with OT replies. How do you explain that paradox, that newbies should not use the forum as a chat board, but old-timers can?

Reply by Charm_AL on 3/3/06 9:31am
Msg #101646

Re: It IS a chat board. . .

Marlene...chat board, general discussion forum, whatever. You don't have all the info/knowledge on why this was stated in the first place by Dorothy_MI yesterday.

Reply by FlaMac on 3/3/06 9:44am
Msg #101655

OT is written on the heading so you'll know it's...

"off topic". It helps alot when searching strictly for biz related info. Maybe what we need is a legend of all the acronyms. I think an important part of networking is getting to know folks. Kind of like doing biz on the golf course, so to speak. JMO (Just my opinion)

Reply by Marlene/USNA on 3/3/06 10:02am
Msg #101662

Re: That only works if OT is in the heading

See breakfast posts above. It would also be helpful if OTs were not included in searches. And lists of acronyms have been posted before and are available by using the search button.

But my original point is, we shouldn't tell newbies they can't post as if Notary Rotary is a chat room when so many of us use it that way ourselves. We are teaching the newbies how to behave on Notary Rotary with our own behavior.

Reply by SueW/Tn on 3/3/06 10:15am
Msg #101672

I haven't read the board in a day or two but...

I have noticed the change between now and a few months ago. Personally I enjoy hearing what everyone is up to so yes, I gotta agree it's more chat than business. I also agree that if you need an answer in a hurry this is the place to post. Catch 22 for sure! I lost my brother yesterday, Charms "Friday post" brought a smile to my face, thank you Charm. We never know what the other posters are going through nor do we sometimes read between the lines. Charm said it best, one can always decide to pass that post by. I think we sometimes take life a bit to seriously and forget our compassion. Take time to stop and smell the roses, NR is a sanctuary for many and we each take from it what we need. Everyone have a glorious and safe weekend.

Reply by CaliNotary on 3/3/06 12:20pm
Msg #101730

I look at NR as the office water cooler

I think this board fulfills a need that we don't get to have as self employed signing agents. In a sense, we're each other's co-workers.

Just as at the office you sometimes talk about work related stuff with co-workers, sometimes complain about it, and sometimes talk about stuff completely unrelated to work, the same thing happens here.

This board would be excrutiatingly boring if all we did was talk about notary and signing procedures. A lot of people (myself included) wouldn't be here and there would be a lot less useful information in here.

Reply by LilyMD on 3/3/06 1:49pm
Msg #101748

Re: I look at NR as the office water cooler

I like Cali's way of looking at things. I too would find this board dull if the only conversation revolved around notary topics. I look forward to many of the other posters' comments on a variety of topics.

Reply by Korey Humphreys on 3/3/06 10:10am
Msg #101666

Re: OT is written on the heading so you'll know it's...

I passed by this message last night and figured I would ignore it entirely. I'm not sure what I did wrong this time around. I was very pleased to see that everyone was playing nice together here. I posted on the board four times, and I believe two were in response to messages directed towards me.

I'm not sure if it is the long name of "Korey Humphreys" that stands out to you or not. I kind of view it as the off topic post Charm left about how the mind can't process the word "of". Maybe my full name attracts the attention of you. I'm really not sure, but the reality is I didn't post a lot. I posted a couple messages when I got home and settled last night.

I enjoy reading this board, I really do! I like learning new things about what other notaries can do. I simply enjoy reading new things and/or experiences.

If I am wrong when I post I do not find it offensive for one to correct me. I don't mind minor debates. My favorite color is blue and I enjoy spending time with family and my close friends (god I feel like I'm suppose to write in that direction )

But seriously though, the only thing I can say MB_AZ is that if you don't like my messages, or feel that you should quit your day job because I have posted with sockpuppets a year ago, then by all means ignore me and never assist me when and if I ask for it. I plan on being here for a while so that I may pass on what I've learned to newbies in the future (of course after I learn ).

Thank you.

Reply by BrendaTx on 3/3/06 12:06pm
Msg #101726

Re: OT is ..... Korey

Well, Junior..."what Charm said."

Sometimes people log in every three or four days or so and maybe they see a big Smackdown with blood and gore everywhere, and, by that time things may be over... and the problem might have righted itself, but when that person starts catching up, it's just like real time.

Reply by Korey Humphreys on 3/3/06 12:35pm
Msg #101732

Re: OT is ..... Korey

LOL @ blood and gore everywhere!!

An excellent visual!! You would think that those that are reading everything trying to catch up would post their thoughts on the original thread. But then again, I should practice what I preach for I have done the same thing.

Reply by Korey Humphreys on 3/3/06 10:14am
Msg #101670

:-) Thanks Charm n/m

Reply by eXpedN_TX on 3/3/06 10:15am
Msg #101671

MB_AZ

I understand your frustration. Since we were not a part why Harry chooses to do what he does, it's hard to say why he has allowed KH to come back. It does seem, however, like Charm said, he has cooled off - KH that is.

I can't help but wonder if the agreement to have him return was maybe an email with words such as: my Attorney friends, sue, slander, etc. We will never know?!?!?

Try not to let it get to you. There is so many better things about this site that for me it overrides the bad.

Reply by O/Cnotary on 3/3/06 10:22am
Msg #101677

I for 1, really enjoy this board and G*N. They both have...

something different to offer. I keep very busy and dont have a lot of time to participate, but when I have a few minutes to unwind and read/contribute I enjoy the heck out of it. Its funny how you start to view people, you dont even know what they look like, as your friends and co-workers. Am I right about that????? Have a great day and a wonderful weekend folks!

Reply by PAW on 3/3/06 10:32am
Msg #101688

Re: MB_AZ

>>> I can't help but wonder if the agreement to have him return was maybe an email with words such as: my Attorney friends, sue, slander, etc. We will never know?!?!? <<<

Knowing Harry (as little as I do), I doubt very seriously if the above had anything to do with it.

Reply by Korey Humphreys on 3/3/06 10:50am
Msg #101698

Re: MB_AZ

It had absouletly nothing to do with that. I wouldn't dream of suing Notrot / Harry. I think what Harry provides to us is wonderful..... and an excellent resource for notaries public.

Maybe it's because when I was gone, things were still SOMEWHAT out of hand. I didn't dare post until things were cleared about me. My profile has always been active, even though I did not post.

I learned my lesson ladies and gents....... I will not be posting with sockpuppets.

Alright... tis 11:50 AM and I gotta get to work for 12:30. Take care.

Reply by eXpedN_TX on 3/3/06 2:35pm
Msg #101767

Re: MB_AZ

Good to hear!!!

Reply by MB_AZ on 3/3/06 11:00am
Msg #101702

eXpedN_TX I agree with you

But as a paying member to this board, I think we all should have a say if somesone should be banned from the board for being so disruptive for so long. As for this person suddenly changing into a "reasonable person"....I don't think so. If it looks like a fish, smells like a fish, it MUST BE A FISH!