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Posted by Julie/MI on 5/10/06 6:05am
Msg #118768

Curious about Domestic Partnership in CA

I had a closing for Fresno, CA property last night and there is a disclosure asking if the borrower is in a domestic partnership.

I am wondering if domestic partnership can refer to one man and one woman who are "shacking up" or is this exclusively for same sex couples.

Reply by BrendaTx on 5/10/06 7:32am
Msg #118774

Re: Curious .. Domestic Part...CA - Julie - Sr. shack..bitOT

My mother recently informed me that the term has been shortened to call it "shackkk-innnn."

She and her sr. significant other refuse to get married because they think it will cause a problem with their social security. I don't know and don't engage in that conversation, but they both like to tell me that's what they are doing. KIDS!!!!!



Reply by patricia on 5/10/06 9:28am
Msg #118796

Re: Curious .. Domestic Part...CA - Julie - Sr. shack..bitOT

first I was told it was for all couples and later that it only was intended for same sex couples,
all borrowers need to sign it though. I have done hundreds of them and no one has ever said
they were in a domestic partnership, and this is in San Francisco.

Reply by CaliNotary on 5/10/06 10:46am
Msg #118825

Re: Curious .. Domestic Part...CA - Julie - Sr. shack..bitOT

The key is that the couple has to be registered as domestic partners with the state. It's more than just living together and declaring yourselves to be domestic partners. If they're not registered then they would answer "no" on the form.

Reply by DogmongerCA on 5/10/06 10:18am
Msg #118822

Same sex unions

Justices uphold California domestic partner law
By DAVID KRAVETS, AP Legal Affairs Writer

Thursday, June 30, 2005


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(06-30) 00:07 PDT San Francisco (AP) --


Gays and lesbians won a major legal victory when the California Supreme Court let stand a new law granting registered domestic partners many of the same rights and protections of heterosexual marriage.


Without comment Wednesday, the unanimous justices upheld appellate and trial court rulings that the sweeping measure does not conflict with a voter-approved initiative defining marriage as a union between a man and a woman.


The domestic partner law, signed in 2003 by then-Gov. Gray Davis, represents the nation's most comprehensive recognition of gay domestic rights, short of the legalization of gay marriage in Massachusetts and civil unions in Vermont and Connecticut.


The law, which went into effect Jan. 1, grants registered couples virtually every spousal right available under state law except the ability to file joint income taxes.


Groups opposing the law said Wednesday they hope to qualify a ballot measure asking voters to overturn the justices, and perhaps to bar gay and lesbians from ever getting married in California.


"Certainly, this reflects the importance of the people of California rising up to insure that their vote in 2000 is counted and not overlooked by the courts," said Robert Tyler, an attorney with the Alliance Defense Fund, which asked the justices to overturn the law.


The Campaign for California Families, along with the late Sen. Pete Knight, originally challenged the law, saying it undermines Proposition 22 — the 2000 initiative that defined marriage as between a man and a woman. Knight, a Republican from Palmdale who died after the suit was filed, was the author of that measure, which passed with 61 percent of the vote.


Kate Kendell, executive director of the National Center for Lesbian Rights, said the "anti-gay industry's" reaction to the decision means "they won't stop until essentially the existence of lesbians and gay men is eradicated."


Wednesday's ruling by California's six participating justices, the final arbitrators of state law, upheld an April decision by the 3rd District Court of Appeal in Sacramento, which had ruled Proposition 22's language is clearly limited to "marriage."


By 1999, California had already begun allowing same-sex couples or couples older than 62 years old to register as domestic partners, and Proposition 22 didn't express "an intent to repeal our state's then-existing domestic partners law" or ban future legislation regarding domestic partners, the appeals court held.


Supporters of Proposition 22 could have easily barred the Legislature from enacting or extending domestic partnership laws by using language similar to that in other states — in Nebraska, for example, an initiative defining marriage as between a man and a woman also stated that domestic partnerships or civil unions between same sex couples would not be valid, the appeals court noted.


"We're extremely pleased," said Nathan Barankin, a spokesman for Attorney General Bill Lockyer, who urged the justices to uphold the domestic partner law. "We fought hard to protect California's landmark domestic partner law and believe the trial court, and the appellate court and the California Supreme Court reached the exact and right result."


Proposed ballot measures banning gay marriage and domestic partner benefits were received last month by Lockyer's office, and are awaiting the attorney general to craft a ballot title and summary. The measures could appear on the June 2006 ballot.


Peter Henderson, an executive of the California Family Council, said his group is among a coalition of other groups spearheading the ballot box drive.


"This decision is why we believe the initiative process is so important to give voters a direct say through direct democracy on issues of this importance," he said.


The proposed ballot measures are also aimed at a March ruling from a San Francisco County Superior Court judge who ruled that Proposition 22, and other California laws limiting marriage to unions between one man and one woman, were unconstitutional. Such laws violate the civil rights of gays and lesbians because they "implicate the basic human right to marry a person of one's choice," Judge Richard Kramer wrote.


That ruling, which was stayed, is on appeal to the San Francisco-based 1st District Court of Appeal and is pending.


Justice Janice Rogers Brown, who leaves Thursday to join the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, did not vote.


The domestic partners case is Knight v. Superior Court, S133961.


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Editors: David Kravets has been covering state and federal courts for more than a decade.





Reply by Kate/CA on 5/10/06 11:58am
Msg #118848

Check out this website from the SOS http://www.ss.ca.gov/dpregistry/

Reply by Stamper_WI on 5/10/06 7:58pm
Msg #118957

I have seen them in WI. I was told by the borrowers that they did it to get health insurance coverage for their partner. UWmadison was the employer.


 
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