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Posted by Kristina Miller on 5/2/06 10:54am
Msg #117146

Deed of Trust/Mortgage

is a Mortgage the same as a deed of trust or is the mortgage the note?

I have instructions to fax mortgage. I bought the signing registry book and I do not see it in there.

Reply by BrendaTx on 5/2/06 10:57am
Msg #117148

This is not a notary rule so I am answer it for those who know me as a crusty old curmudgeon.

Very good question - one that can confuse.

If they want mortgage, they do not mean the note - - they mean the Deed of trust. It is also called "Security Instrument."

Reply by Kristina Miller on 5/2/06 11:04am
Msg #117152

whew. i was afraid of getting blasted.

Reply by BrendaTx on 5/2/06 11:08am
Msg #117156

Re: Deed - blasted by me? n/m

Reply by Kristina Miller on 5/2/06 11:22am
Msg #117163

no not you, but by others on the board in my state n/m

Reply by BrendaTx on 5/2/06 11:30am
Msg #117165

Re: no not you - whew...I hate that image people have of me

so I'll just yell louder and make everyone forget about it. Just kidding!

NaNa

Reply by Jersey_Boy on 5/2/06 10:57am
Msg #117149

Deed of Trust and Mortgage are the same thing.

The note is something completely different.

Reply by Kristina Miller on 5/2/06 11:03am
Msg #117151

Thank you. I was thinking that the term Deed of Trust and Mortgage are state specific. I know that my state uses a Deed of Trust and I have seen Mortgage in other states (Im thinking Florida is one).

Reply by PAW on 5/2/06 11:05am
Msg #117154

Mortgages and Deeds of Trust are not necessarily the same thing, depending on how the state uses them. Typically, a mortgage is a document in which the owner pledges his/her/its title to real property to a lender as security for a loan described in a promissory note. Mortgage is an old English term derived from two French words "mort" and "gage" meaning "dead pledge." To be enforceable the mortgage must be signed by the owner (borrower), acknowledged before a notary public, and recorded with the County Recorder or Recorder of Deeds. If the owner (mortgagor) fails to make payments on the promissory note (becomes delinquent) then the lender (mortgagee) can foreclose on the mortgage to force a sale of the real property to obtain payment from the proceeds, or obtain the property itself at a sheriff's sale upon foreclosure. However, catching up on delinquent payments and paying costs of foreclosure ("curing the default"Wink can save the property. In some states the property can be redeemed by such payment even after foreclosure. Upon payment in full the mortgagee (lender) is required to execute a "satisfaction of mortgage" (sometimes called a "discharge of mortgage"Wink and record it to clear the title to the property. A purchase-money mortgage is one given by a purchaser to a seller of real property as partial payment. A mortgagor may sell the property either "subject to a mortgage" in which the property is still security and the seller is still liable for payment, or the buyer "assumes the mortgage" and becomes personally responsible for payment of the loan. Under English common law a mortgage was an actual transfer of title to the lender, with the borrower having the right to occupy the property while it was in effect, but non-payment ended the right of occupation. Today only Connecticut, Maine, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Rhode Island and Vermont cling to the common law, and other states using mortgages treat them as liens on the property. More significantly, 14 states use a "deed of trust" (or "trust deed"Wink as a mortgage.

A deed of trust is a document which pledges real property to secure a loan, used instead of a mortgage in Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, North Carolina, Texas, Virginia and West Virginia. The property is deeded by the title holder (trustor) to a trustee (often a title or escrow company) which holds the title in trust for the beneficiary (the lender of the money). When the loan is fully paid, the trustor requests the trustee to return the title by reconveyance. If the loan becomes delinquent the beneficiary can file a notice of default and, if the loan is not brought current, can demand that the trustee begin foreclosure on the property so that the beneficiary may either be paid or obtain title.


Reply by BrendaTx on 5/2/06 11:07am
Msg #117155

Yes, they are state specific. Read PAW's good information for educational value, however, for the purpose you have stated, my answer is correct. HOWEVER, WHEN IN DOUBT, call the hiring entity. I can understand why you'd be hesistant on this one.

Reply by BrendaTx on 5/2/06 11:13am
Msg #117159

Re: Deed of Trust/Mortgage also see Msg #96527

it's complimentary to your question - Good basic question - I will see if any others apply. I did a search and found that with DOT and MORTGAGE.

This will help discard the "fear of faxing back" - But be dang sure you CHARGE ENOUGH FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR MACHINES to be running back to your office to prank around with fax backs.

Reply by kkdmiddleton on 5/2/06 1:02pm
Msg #117191

Hey Kristina, where in WV are you? n/m

Reply by Kevin/Ct on 5/2/06 12:01pm
Msg #117169

The note and the mortgage/deed of trust are two different documents. The note is the promise of the borrower to repay the debt plus interest. The mortgage /deed of trust is the document which secures the note for purposes of foreclosure. I states such as Connecticut each document may be enforced separately. The note may be enforced through a suit for legal money damages. The mortgage may be enforced by an action for foreclosure ...either strict foreclosure in which title to the property is conveyed to the foreclosing lender or foreclosure by sale in which case the property is sold and the proceeds are paid to satisfy the mortgage with any surplus being paid to the the property owner.


 
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