Posted by Chris von Nieda on 11/13/06 12:33pm
Msg #159590

LoanSignersInc.com, credit when it's due

Hello All,

Fair is fair...because there are posts that say "LoanSignersInc." "screwed me" or "never paid me" what's fair is fair. Every week we are sending out many many checks to past due and current notaries. For those of you that felt it was necessary to damage our reputation publicly, I would appreciate it if you get back on here and post that you got paid when you do. Because as I have said before, EVERY single notary we owe with the exception of one (and she knows who she is) is getting their money from us. Because notaries will be searching this board long in to the future, please do the right thing and give credit when it's due.

Thank you

- Chris

Reply by Robin_IN on 11/13/06 1:12pm
Msg #159614

I have never a posted a "never been paid" post, although I am owed money from September. I will, however, post when I receive my check, just as I did one time before, when I was paid for the August signings. Although I only post occasionally, I lurk out here and read most of the posts and I appreciate your honesty and open letter to all the notaries. I look forward to a continued relationship with you.

Reply by Chris von Nieda on 11/13/06 1:13pm
Msg #159615

Thank you very much Robin, Likewise!

- Chris

Reply by sandi42 on 11/13/06 2:29pm
Msg #159632

Iknow that you owe me for 3 signings and been well over 90 days.

Reply by MasterCloser on 11/13/06 4:17pm
Msg #159654

Re: LoanSignersInc.com, credit? Not long but to the point!

I called this company a few weeks back to register with them. I make it a practice to NEVER PAY to register with a signing company. Mr.Von Nieda did email me back and told me that it is expensive to run his business and needs to charge this "registration fee" It amazes me that his company can't pay the notary in a timely fashion.
Just my 2 cents

Reply by sandi42 on 11/13/06 4:20pm
Msg #159656

Re: LoanSignersInc.com, credit? Not long but to the point!

i did three no way am i going to get pay it was 08/10/2006 and then 08/11/2006 and 09/01/2006 over 90 days why should i have to wait for him to pay me?

Reply by Chris von Nieda on 11/13/06 11:16pm
Msg #159770

Re: LoanSignersInc.com, credit? Not long but to the point!

Sandi,

As I have said in emails and on this board publicly you will be paid and when you do I am simply asking for you to come back on this board and publicly say so.

That's all

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 11/13/06 5:04pm
Msg #159661

Re: LoanSignersInc.com, credit?- Mastercloser

I agree - never pay to sign up with a signing service! Anyone starting a signing service should have the finances to support it and not rely on signing agents to fund them them with a
"registration fee".

Reply by Ernest Adams on 11/13/06 8:06pm
Msg #159703

Money is due to me also. / Agreeing with Sylvia!

Never pay to be listed with a signing service. Period.

I, too, am owed for two signing. One is far over 90 days and t'other is approaching 90 days.

Reply by Chris von Nieda on 11/14/06 2:33pm
Msg #159885

Your checks are on the way Ernest

Ernest:

I just checked in to your account. You did not submit your invoice on either signing you did for us and my staff had to chase you down on the first one to find out if you completed the signing since you didn't update the status online as instructed. That aside, we just created invoices for you and your checks are being cut as we speak. You will receive email notification confirming this.

- Chris

Reply by hcampersFL on 11/14/06 5:06pm
Msg #159962

Re: Your checks are on the way Ernest~Chris

Please explain the way you decide who gets paid first? I completed my assignment with your company perfectly including updating your web-site and sending in my invoice the next day. Why would someone that didn't follow your procedures be getting paid before me? Is the squeaky wheel getting the grease?

No offense Ernest!

Reply by Chris von Nieda on 11/14/06 2:38pm
Msg #159892

Your checks are on the way Sandi

Sandi,

You should have received email confirmation that accounting has cut your check and it's on the way.

- Chris

Reply by Jill Adams on 11/13/06 4:41pm
Msg #159658

I got paid for 4 out of 5 jobs I did for LoanSigners Inc.The one I didn't was a no-sign and I shipped these documents back. I did not receive an answer about payment on that particular job. I did receive a lump sum for the 4 completed ones. I did have to call and email every once and awhile and it took longer than I expected to get paid. But I did get paid. Thank you.

Reply by Chris von Nieda on 11/13/06 11:30pm
Msg #159773

Thank you for stepping up Jill. If you submitted an invoice on our website you will be paid. We do pay for no signs and no shows.

- Chris

Reply by Tracy_ME on 11/14/06 4:14pm
Msg #159938

We do pay for no signs and no shows.

I have an email from you that states effective Oct. 15th you "will pay $50.00 for printing, time and expenses" for no signs and no shows. You have agreed to pay me in full for a no sign but have been clear to me about this October 15th "Policy Change". I appreciate the fact that you have agreed to keep your word regarding my "no sign". However, I would like to be clear on your policy... so which is it? Do you pay or do you pay"$50.00 for printing, time and expenses" ?

Reply by Joe Garza on 11/13/06 5:10pm
Msg #159663

it has been over 60 days since I have not received payment for services done in behalf of your company! When will I get paid? There should be no reason for this to happen.

Please respond with when I will get paid!!

Thank You

Reply by sandi42 on 11/13/06 6:51pm
Msg #159675

im owed 3 resp signings since august he is full of it

Reply by sue_pa on 11/13/06 7:51pm
Msg #159696

...he is full of it...

I have never worked for this copmpany because several years ago when he started this company he was a regular poster on these boards and he was 'full of it' back then.

Reply by Scott_IN on 11/13/06 8:32pm
Msg #159707

4 Signings in August and no payment, and they call me .....

I did 4 signings for them in August and haven't been paid for any of them. Then they have the nerve to call me and ask me to do more, SURE, hey everybody call me, I'd love to work for nothing. Let me go in and change my profile to show that I work for nothing and if there is mileage or printing involved, I"ll pay the company that finds me the work. How's that for fair. Who cares if I pay for insurance, gas, copy paper and toner, continuing education classes, cell phone, fax line and other office necessities. Hey, I love holding borrowers hands to get the signing completed. I'd love to do it and pay for the priviledge.

Reply by Scott_IN on 11/13/06 8:34pm
Msg #159708

Loansigners.inc owes me $375.00, will I ever get it??? n/m

Reply by Chris von Nieda on 11/14/06 12:19am
Msg #159784

Re: Loansigners.inc owes me $375.00, will I ever get it???

Hello Scott,

yes you will. Please refer to the recent thread I started to publicly address yours and anyone else's concern about getting paid by my company.

- Chris

Reply by Chris von Nieda on 11/14/06 2:36pm
Msg #159889

Your check is on it's way Scott

Scott, I just checked in to your account and made sure accounting included the money we owe you in this weeks batch. You'll have your check shortly. I was advised that you should have already received email notification that the checks were cut.

- Chris

Reply by Chris von Nieda on 11/13/06 11:33pm
Msg #159775

Joe,

I addressed late payments in another very long recent thread on this board. Just hit the "PREVIOUS" button about 6 or 7 times and you will see it. I would appeciate it if we stay on topic on this thread.

- Chris

Reply by ME/NJ on 11/13/06 8:41pm
Msg #159712

Sue the SOB...

If you belong to this or any other board and paid to be a part of that company then don't cry about I have not been paid..

Plenty of warnings out there..

Fool me once shame on me, fool me twice..

Why not call the companies that hired him and tell them what a scum bag he his?

Reply by Chris von Nieda on 11/13/06 11:53pm
Msg #159781

Re: Sue the SOB...

Dear Anonymous poster,

Had you been keeping up with this board you would have read my recent posts that explain that the reason you and others have not been paid is because we have not been paid by a very large client. Please refer to those recent posts for more info. We are working on several new sources of capital to get everyone caught up until we can collect from our client.

- Chris

Reply by CaliNotary on 11/13/06 8:43pm
Msg #159714

"For those of you that felt it was necessary to damage our reputation publicly"

Says the guy who made the choice to damage his own reputation by screwing over the people that work for him.


"Because notaries will be searching this board long in to the future, please do the right thing and give credit when it's due"

Says the guy who didn't actually bother to do the right thing and give payment when it's due.

You just have to love the chutzpah of some people.

Reply by Gary_CA on 11/13/06 9:17pm
Msg #159725

HELLLOOOOOOOOOOO......

I hear Chris shouting "we're paying notaries, give us credit" from one mountain top clear across the valley to the other...

But in vain I listen for that echo that says "YES HE PAID ME...."


Hmmm.... Hell even SOX has one defender on the board.

I got no dog in this fight, but the silence is deafening.

Reply by Chris von Nieda on 11/14/06 12:17am
Msg #159783

Re: HELLLOOOOOOOOOOO......

Gary:

Unfortunately that is the reason I stopped posting on boards like this 3 years ago. Because most people that seem to have the "kutzpah" to post are only the ones that have derogatory things to say with the exception of 1 brave soul so far.

- Chris

Reply by CaliNotary on 11/14/06 12:59am
Msg #159788

Or more likely

You've only paid one person so far.

You've screwed a bunch of people, why on earth do you think you deserve anything but derogatory things written about you?

Reply by Chris von Nieda on 11/14/06 1:24am
Msg #159791

Re: Or more likely

Cali:

Well for one thing I'm here discussing it...that aside...

We have paid over $325,000 to notaries as of about 15 minutes ago so there is either one VERY rich notary out there or we have done a little business. We are sending out about 100 checks this week and you use the term "screwed" in past tense. We are late, not over. As my original post said, checks are going out every week until everyone is paid. No one is going to get screwed.

- Chris

Reply by Simone E. Lewis on 11/14/06 1:43pm
Msg #159865

Re: Paid registration

Chris, I had paid a registration fee to sign-in for your company, but never got any calls. How do you explained taken that $$ without procuring any work?

Reply by Chris von Nieda on 11/14/06 2:46pm
Msg #159897

Re: Paid registration

Hi Simone,

There are several reasons that contributed to the fact that no business came your way from us:

1) When you entered the counties you service in to your profile you did not follow the instructions. Therefore when ever my team searched those counties you did not come up. "San Fernando Valley" is not a county in California and neither is "North Los Angeles" You did however have "Ventura" and Santa Barbara entered correctly.

2) California is SATURATED with notaries. Because there are so many of you there the signing literally has to be in your back yard to be called, otherwise someone else is closer.

3) We actually DID call you last month and you declined to work for us so we have deactivated your account.

- Chris

Reply by CaliNotary on 11/14/06 4:12pm
Msg #159936

Re: Paid registration

So it's Ernest's fault that he didn't get paid, it's Simone's fault that she didn't get called, it's the title companies fault that you've had to screw so many notaries.

Why do I get the feeling that none of your f**k ups are ever YOUR fault?

And if California is SATURATED with notaries and it's very unlikely that you'll call us, why have I received emails from you in the past trying to get me to pay to sign up with your company? You think it's fair to take money from people when you know it's HIGHLY unlikely you'll ever use their services?

Luckily I'm not stupid enough to pay to get into a signing service database, but I think that your true character has yet again been revealed in this thread. And you wonder why everyone thinks you're a deadbeat conman?

Reply by CaliNotary on 11/14/06 4:31pm
Msg #159947

BTW, sounds to me like you owe Simone a refund

If she paid you to be in your database and you arbitrarily decided to remove her from it because she didn't accept a signing, you need to return her money. She certainly didn't get the service she paid for.

Reply by Chris von Nieda on 11/14/06 9:28pm
Msg #160095

Re: BTW, sounds to me like you owe Simone a refund

See that's where the confusion is Cali. She wasn't paying in exchange for assignments. She was paying to advertise her services. So based on YOUR logic, everyone should ask the yellow pages, search engines, the NNA, this site and every other agency out there that provides exposure to others in need of it for a refund. Why don't you lead that march to glory and let me know how it goes.

- Chris

Reply by CaliNotary on 11/14/06 9:32pm
Msg #160096

Re: BTW, sounds to me like you owe Simone a refund

Yeah, she paid to advertise her services and you said you took her out of the database that she paid to be in. Why would you remove her if she paid to advertise there?

And who else has access to that database besides you? The yellow pages, search engines, etc. have an audience of millions, how many eyes get to see the database that she paid to be in with you?

Reply by SarahBeth_CA on 11/14/06 10:24pm
Msg #160114

She's not recieving the advertising she paid for

He absolutely owes her a refund. Just how many people has he collected fees from and then removed them from the database. If he removed someone just because they declined one signing how many others has he done this to. So basicly he takes money and doesn't provide the service they pay for and he doesn't pay his notaries on time. You just can't make crap like this up.

Reply by Chris von Nieda on 11/14/06 9:22pm
Msg #160092

Re: Paid registration

Cali:

I'll answer this way (and you are starting to bore me with your personal attacks) In the last 3 years, we have paid notaries over $325,000 in fees.

THAT'S my fault. Sorry...

- Chris

Reply by TitleGalCA on 11/14/06 10:08pm
Msg #160105

Gggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

***You did not follow instructions*** Really? And you know this because...............................?

***California is SATURATED with notaries*** Wow, now there's a newflash. Pretty freakin weak argument Chris. Surely, you could have done better if you're trying to protect your reputation? Like...something with some substance???

***You declined to work for us*** You think Simone is like....sitting around waiting for LSI to call? She's to drop prior engagements?

I agree. You owe Simone a refund - and I ain't blowin smoke here - I turn overflow calls to Simone. She's a good notary.

You, on the other hand have come aboard...voiced your complaints, and can't take the heat when the community pulls your covers on their experience with your company.

If you post here about your business woe's....expect the feedback from the people who write your paycheck.

Reply by Simone E. Lewis on 11/17/06 5:47pm
Msg #160892

Re: Chris this may be late to answer, since 3 days have pass

No one is closer than 93041, and I can travel all of Ventura Conty and All of Santa Barbara Chris, Like BrendaTX, message 160475& 160663, when I first advertised my services on line, I paid your signing service and never got any calls. I was registered for one year membership in January 2004, for $69.00??? to your signing service. You are confusing the issues of advertising web page with LoanSigners.com. I did not have a web page then. I had been commissioned since 1996, not necessarily inexperience.

As you stated in message 160663 (Cali-
Besides being a signing service, we offer notary advertising and a personalized webpage notaries can use to advertise their services on our site. Advertising is not free. Webpages are not free. But effective next week they will be.)

When I received your call for a signing in few weeks (not months ago) I had already read the negative comments on this board.

Chris, why don't you stop beating around the bushes and admit that you had no intention of calling any notaries Obviously, paying your company to be registered was useless. Yes, the area is saturated now, but other Title, Lenders, Signing Services and others as Title Gal have found me for an average of 25 signings a month. Either, you don’t advertise your .com address or you are a Thief. Not one call inover two years, you do you think you are fooling?

Maybe if We the Notaries, tell it like it is, we can get corrupted signing services such as yours out of business.

Reply by Gilbert Van Raalte on 6/25/07 2:17pm
Msg #196846

These thiefs owe me for 2 signings No reply to emails no checks do not do business with them