Posted by Mike Photon on 11/7/06 2:37am
Msg #157710
Wrong Venue
I have a signing tomorrow in the county of San Mateo, but all over the document the venue is printed as county of Sacramento. I will have to line through, correct and initial all the notarial certificates. Sigh!
Now, a couple of questions on this:
1. Is it advisable to attach loose cert instead. I have read on this board a while ago that some county recorders don't like ANY corrections/line thru on the certificates and may even reject it (esp. LA county)
2. Do I have to worry about correcting only the venue on notarial certificates? For example I have a Compliance Agreement that has
State of California )
County of Sacramento ) ss on the top, then the agreement and then borrower's signature.
Under that, the Acknowledgement again with
State of California )
County of Sacramento ) ss and the ack wording. Do I need to have the borrower correct and initial the venue on the top or should I even bother?
3. What about the docs that do not have to be notarized? Should I even worry about the venue on them?
TIA
Mike
| Reply by Pamela on 11/7/06 4:18am
Msg #157714
Mike, Re: Wrong Venue
Good Morning,
I. Regarding incorrect venue on notarial certificates:
As the notary, you are the only one who can correct
errors within the notary block. If the venue (of the signing)
is wrong, line through it, initial and print the correct venue.
(Note: Borrowers are not to correct any venue and/or notarial
verbiage/wording!)
Also, be sure that CA notarial verbiage/wording is correct.
If not, you may need to attach a loose certificate.
II. Regarding incorrect venue on other documents:
Is the property located in Sacramento? If so,
this would explain why Sacramento is listed
as the venue. Therefore the venue is correct.
As a matter of course, you should always check
with escrow and/or title, if in doubt about any
document.
Pam
| Reply by cyndi_ca on 11/7/06 8:46am
Msg #157730
Re: Mike, Re: Wrong Venue
" Is the property located in Sacramento? If so,
this would explain why Sacramento is listed
as the venue. Therefore the venue is correct."
The venue is where the signing takes place. Just because the property is in Sacramento County does not mean the venue is correct.
| Reply by BarbaraL_CA on 11/7/06 9:34am
Msg #157745
You're absolutely correct, Cyndi....
Sometimes the venue will be at the top of the page, the document wording following it, then that is followed by the Notary wording.
Think of it like a "sandwhich" - the document wording being "sandwiched" in by Notary information (Venue and Notary wording).
| Reply by Pamela on 11/7/06 12:32pm
Msg #157792
Cyndi, Re: Mike, Re: Wrong Venue
"3. What about the docs that do not have to be notarized?
Should I even worry about the venue on them?"
You are correct, the venue is where the signing takes place.
Perhaps I worded it wrong.
However, it was the thought that he was in reference to the
property's physical address being different from the actual
location of the signing. If so, should this information also be corrected
( i.e. Truth in Lending, Tax Information sheet etc. . .).
Pam
| Reply by Marlene/USNA on 11/7/06 2:00pm
Msg #157810
Re: Cyndi, Re: Mike, Re: Wrong Venue
>If so, should this information also be corrected ( i.e. Truth in Lending, Tax Information sheet etc. . .).<
Don't be changing anything outside your notarial certificate without a call to lender/escrow/title first.
| Reply by Pamela on 11/7/06 3:00pm
Msg #157826
Marlene,
I agree.
That is what I told the original poster Mike (see previous post).
A notary if in doubt should always contact escrow etc. . .for clarity.
"If so, should this information also be corrected ( i.e. Truth in Lending,
Tax Information sheet etc. . .)."
This line is a paraphrasing as to what I thought Mike,
meant, in response to another post. That is why I told him
to leave the information alone:
"II. Regarding incorrect venue on other documents:
Is the property located in Sacramento? If so,
this would explain why Sacramento is listed
as the venue. Therefore the venue is correct.
As a matter of course, you should always check
with escrow and/or title, if in doubt about any
document."
I had incorrectly used the word "venue", when referring to the
property's physical address (although venue and location are
interchangable terms, when used outside the "notary world" .
For clarity, the physical property's address or any other information on
the documents are not be changed unless instructed to do so by title etc. . .
However, incorrect information as to the notarial wording, venue etc. . .
can be changed within the "notarial block" (I hope I worded this correctly)
by the notary.
I learned this on my very first assignment (Had to return to the
borrower's home with a few papers for re-signing). And so far, so good.
I return "error-free" documents and the loans fund as scheduled.
Pam
Pam
| Reply by Pamela on 11/7/06 3:05pm
Msg #157827
Marlene Cont'd
The RTC can also be corrected by the notary
(with borrower's initials).
Pam
| Reply by Traveling2U on 11/7/06 9:54am
Msg #157749
Re: Wrong Venue I read you can't use symbols ie * ^ n/m
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