Posted by Rhonda Skansi on 11/10/06 8:30pm
Msg #158869

help....opinions please...SOX

Got a call for last minute signing from SOX. He says "HI, calling from Sox signing..blahblah...." I say " oh i've heard lots about you". Silence... He asked could I do signing.... I say "not for you, have a good night"......2 minutes later I get a call from a gal that says " hi this is Rosalyn from Alliance title could you do a closing" ok, she met my fee no question. I look on the phone and see that its the same # that SOX called from.... I tried calling back but they have a phone system with that # that can't accept calls. So now I got docs sent to me and do not want to do signing.....what would you do

Reply by DebbieT on 11/10/06 8:31pm
Msg #158871

Beware! Be very afraid. They dont pay.

Reply by DebbieT on 11/10/06 8:35pm
Msg #158874

Send a reply to the email that the docs came in.

Reply by Rhonda Skansi on 11/10/06 8:44pm
Msg #158880

did they really pose as title to get job done??.....

The e-mail and confirmation looks legit and I see nothing that says SOX, but are they just that calculating? I mean the same exact phone #! My gut is telling me that its SOX trying to pull a fast one. But, if its title and I don't go.....I dunno

Reply by DebbieT on 11/10/06 8:50pm
Msg #158882

Re: did they really pose as title to get job done??.....

Maybe you can look on the docs to get the TC # and if its different then you know its SOX. The confirmation we got from them was just a typed email. If the # is different I would call the title company just to be sure and explain why you are calling. Be truthful. They need to know what is going on.

Reply by Rhonda Skansi on 11/10/06 8:53pm
Msg #158884

Do you remember the names Ryan or Roslyn???? n/m

Reply by Rhonda Skansi on 11/10/06 8:54pm
Msg #158885

as being from SOX... n/m

Reply by DebbieT on 11/10/06 8:57pm
Msg #158886

Re: as being from SOX...

I only know that it was a guy from SOX. I dont remember the name.

Reply by DebbieT on 11/10/06 9:00pm
Msg #158888

Re: as being from SOX...

I looked at the confirmation and it say Ryan Lane. Forgot to erase it.

Reply by DebbieT on 11/10/06 9:04pm
Msg #158889

Re: as being from SOX...

Its just a typed confirmation and it has lender instructions at the bottom.

Reply by Rhonda Skansi on 11/10/06 9:08pm
Msg #158891

Re: as being from SOX...

Thanks Debbie, you've been a real help. I have come to my own conclusion that they are trying to dupe me and I'm not falling for it. They will have to deal with title when the notary doesn't show.

Reply by Korey Humphreys on 11/10/06 9:11pm
Msg #158893

Re: as being from SOX...

I wouldn't stand for it! Especially if it is really SOX. I wonder if SOX created a few different business names just so they can find notaries to do their work...... hhhmmm....

Reply by DebbieT on 11/10/06 9:15pm
Msg #158895

Re: as being from SOX...

I would still send a reply email to tell them that you are going to pass on it. You dont want the borrowers waiting if no one is going to show up. Its a good thing to do on your part. It was my pleasure to be of some help.

Reply by Rhonda Skansi on 11/10/06 9:16pm
Msg #158896

oh yeah, I already did that. forgot to tell ya. n/m

Reply by hcampersFL on 11/10/06 9:19pm
Msg #158897

Rhonda I would also call the BR's and let them know you

won't be doing the signing. Tell them the reason if you have to but at least let them know what is up. It's their loan and ultimately they are the ones losing out because of SOX.

Reply by Rhonda Skansi on 11/10/06 9:25pm
Msg #158900

Ok Bev, don't wanna...but I should you're right. n/m

Reply by hcampersFL on 11/10/06 9:32pm
Msg #158906

Re: Ok Bev, don't wanna...but I should you're right.

Come Monday morning I would be calling the LO and cluing him in on this whole mess. Then I would call Title. Look thru the docs they sent you and get some Phone#'s. Call these people and complain. Let them know what losers they are working with.

Reply by Rhonda Skansi on 11/10/06 9:41pm
Msg #158911

I will. I can't believe how weird...

Part of me thinks.... This can't be real. Would they really? And... what if it is really Title and...??? But, then ...why the same #. I can't let myself try to believe.

Reply by DebbieT on 11/10/06 9:42pm
Msg #158912

Re: Ok Bev, don't wanna...but I should you're right.

I would even foward your "Alliance Title" confirmation to them.

Reply by BrendaTx on 11/10/06 9:11pm
Msg #158892

**hi this is Rosalyn from Alliance title**

I wonder if Alliance Title would like this very much to know that Sox is pulling this.

Reply by Rhonda Skansi on 11/10/06 9:29pm
Msg #158905

also... same # called me 20 min later and

I let vm pickup. Message was same gal and said docs delivered please confirm receipt to my assistant his cell ph # is..... .and his name is Ryan. So, I just called Ryan and said "HI is this Ryan from SOX? and he paused .. then said "no from Alliance title." So I proceeded to tell him my story and how SOX # and Title # same (not) and he said said "oh, well don't worry we are the title company and some people in our office work for SOX so thats why"..... I said I cannot do signing. and thats it

Reply by DebbieT on 11/10/06 9:37pm
Msg #158909

Re: also... same # called me 20 min later and

GOOD JOB!!! I cant believe how desperate these people are. It seems they are trying anything to get everything they can before they close shop.

Reply by Jason on 11/10/06 10:03pm
Msg #158919

Alliance is a cheapskate TC

So I wouldn't be surprised if the went along w/ sox type nonsense.

Reply by BrendaTx on 11/10/06 10:15pm
Msg #158925

Re: Alliance is a cheapskate TC

I have gotten good fees out of them.

Reply by Sher_AZ on 11/10/06 10:25pm
Msg #158931

Re: Alliance is a cheapskate TC

Alliance Title has always treated me fair as well. I can't believe that the people I've worked with at Alliance Title would knowingly be a part of a "scam" by SOX.

Reply by Jason on 11/11/06 5:11am
Msg #158964

Brenda + Sher

I've gotten good fees out of different Alliance ofcs as well but only after arguing + standing tuf. Getting them 2 go above $100 takes work.

You might remembr the scam I posted a mo or 2 ago.

Gal said she was calling from a TC. Turns out she is an independent scheduler working from home who gets a cut. A new type of SS. She wanted 2 pay me $75 so she could keep the rest of the $150 the TC was paying.

Alliance was the TC.

Reply by David Kral on 11/10/06 11:03pm
Msg #158938

Do the addresses match? Are they close?

As further confirmation, it would be good to see if the addresses match or are close. The same zip code would do it for me. It would be an amazing coincidence that you would get two phones, that close from the same zip code. Then again, I guess he practically admitted to it.

Reply by SheilaSJCA on 11/10/06 11:34pm
Msg #158941

Rhonda can you post the phone number that they used, so that if we get calls, we can be alerted that they might not be who they say they are, and to proceed with caution.

Reply by Rhonda Skansi on 11/10/06 11:43pm
Msg #158942

949-231-5063....

First call from this = Sox; Second call from this = Alliance Title (so they said)

Reply by SheilaSJCA on 11/10/06 11:52pm
Msg #158943

Re: 949-231-5063....Thanks!!! n/m

Reply by madhatter on 11/23/06 7:37pm
Msg #161824

I would keep the docs and not go to the closing and when SOX calls, tell them that since they took over 60 days to pay, that you thought you could do the signing in 60 days - It makes a point and then they have to answer to the title company. I will NEVER work for SOX again and the more notaries that stop working for them, the better.