Posted by kathy/ca on 10/10/06 4:34pm
Msg #151466

Cert says Acknowledged, subscribed & sworn= Jurat?

"Acknowledged" threw me as once I saw on this board that it could mean they wanted both types of certificates. Any input guy's?

Reply by dickb/wi on 10/10/06 5:19pm
Msg #151474

means it's a jurat to me......give the oath and sign it.......

Reply by Gerry_VT on 10/10/06 6:17pm
Msg #151497

I thought that, in most cases, you California notaries had to use exactly the wording in the law, so how is it that you have unfamiliar wording? Or is your question whether you should attach a loose acknowledgement, loose jurat, or both?

Reply by Kate/CA on 10/10/06 10:45pm
Msg #151584

It is probably and out of state lender, using the certificates of that state. In CA that type of wording falls under both our certificates. I would generally call the SS or TC and ask what type of certificate they want and use a CA certificate, as I need to know what type of certificate it is considered for my journal.

Reply by Rebecca/CA on 10/10/06 7:18pm
Msg #151514

Sounds like a Jurat but I would not use the certificate on the document because it doesn't meet California's wording requirements....attach a loose Jurat certificate.

Reply by kathy/ca on 10/10/06 7:28pm
Msg #151518

Does not comply with CA Jurat lingo, so yes using my stamp.

I guess the question was, have you seen this verbiage used before, and based on the verbiage, unclear which certificate they are looking for, but whenever I see "sworn" it pretty much tells me it's a Jurat, but the title company didnt know, they said just make sure it get's noptarized! Haha!

Reply by Rebecca/CA on 10/10/06 7:35pm
Msg #151526

Re: Does not comply with CA Jurat lingo, so yes using my sta

Yes I have seen it before but I made the company decide what it was. It turned out to be a Jurat. I would tell the title company to make a choice. I would agree with you that it does sound like a Jurat. I have never seen the same verbiage on a certificate that turned out to be an acknowledgment.

Reply by Gary_CA on 10/10/06 8:50pm
Msg #151555

Ooo ooo ooo I know the answer, pick me pick me...

Wow, something useful from my notary class... the instructor mentioned jurat/acknowledgements that have both wordings... from other states of course... an a California notary can notarize them for document filed in other states. He said stamp it and note in your journal jurat/acknowledgement and don't charge 'em twice.

But I think your strategy of doing a CA compliant jurat is just as good or better. You can't use that form for CA docs (ie docs recorded in CA or for a CA transaction)

I feel soooooooo smart.

Reply by kathy/ca on 10/10/06 8:55pm
Msg #151559

Okay Mr Smarty Pants~! Ha ha! n/m