Posted by tpnotary on 10/4/06 11:24am
Msg #150157

Journal ? Re Sign by Mark

Any California Notaries know how your journal is signed when the person
you are acknowledging is signing by mark? Handbook says witnesses are not
required to sign journal but how should journal be handled by person being acknowledged?

Thank you in advance.

Reply by DellaCa on 10/4/06 11:34am
Msg #150161

It may not be required but everyone involved signs my journal and thumbprint, overkill is best in this case.

Reply by Brad_CA on 10/4/06 11:47am
Msg #150166

Page 14 of the California Handbook addresses this. http://www.ss.ca.gov/business/notary/notary_hdbk.pdf

However, like Della, I also have them id, sign and get a thumbprint.

Reply by tpnotary on 10/4/06 11:53am
Msg #150167

Page 14 of the Handbook also says that "A notary public is not required to identify the two persons who witnessed the signing by mark or to have the two witnesses sign the notary public's journal". It does not say however if the X is to be done in the book. I would of course get thumbprint of signer by X in my book. But not sure what else is required since handbook does not address signer in its reference.

Reply by ananotary on 10/4/06 12:00pm
Msg #150173

"Sign by MARK" pretty much says it all. n/m

Reply by Brad_CA on 10/4/06 12:06pm
Msg #150177

Re: "Sign by MARK" pretty much says it all.

I agree!!!

Reply by Joe Ewing on 10/4/06 1:01pm
Msg #150199

Notarized dozens of Signed by Mark documents. If the signer has produced satisfactory ID the 2 witnesses do not sign your journal. On the journal signature line always write signed by mark. As an additional step, I also get a right thumbprint of the signer in my journal. Always log in additional information for future reference.

Reply by tpnotary on 10/4/06 1:46pm
Msg #150231

Thank you Joe for answering my question intelligently.