Posted by Charm_AL on 10/21/06 9:14am
Msg #154129
how inappropriate was that?...
I'm still in shock that Cherie Signing Service had the nerve to post on a NOTARY forum her version of education on how newbies are demanding her top dollar $65. e-doc fee?
Was that a joke?
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Reply by Teddog/CO on 10/21/06 9:18am
Msg #154131
Please tell me it was a joke ? lol n/m
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Reply by Signing_Doc on 10/21/06 9:30am
Msg #154135
Don't forget...her UPDATED website (as of 7:26am PDST) shows EDocs are NOW...(are y'all ready for this.....)
90.00 for EDocs...per PAW last night
"Doc"
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Reply by Charm_AL on 10/21/06 9:42am
Msg #154137
ohhhh......goosebumps here !!!..... n/m
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Reply by faceynotary on 10/21/06 10:06am
Msg #154152
Hey All:
I have been a member of Notary Rotary, but just started posting on the chat board. I've ready the thread on this topic.
I liked the way how you handled the discussion. We notary signing agents have to fight for our integrity, newbies and veterans alike.
It's funny how she changed her fee schedule, when all the while she spoke out of both sides of her mouth.
You caught the hater who ended up hating her own game. Go NSA's.
Well that's my 2 cents...
A Savvy Brooklyn NYC Notary Dame!
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Reply by BrendaTx on 10/21/06 10:09am
Msg #154158
Re: how inappropriate was that?...Oh you are so NY!
And, I love you for it. I LOVE NYC! Now, if I could just go visit rather than peep at my kid's pictures of it.
Here is the album for you, Facey...
http://angelaandrob.net/wedding/gallery.php?g2_itemId=540
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Reply by LisaWI on 10/21/06 10:25am
Msg #154167
Re: BrendaTX....New York is Great!!
Coming from a small town, it was the most fantastic city I had ever seen. I went there about ten years ago, and still remember the kink I got in my neck from looking up all the time. The people, the beautiful architecture, the fashions, and lets not forget the food. I would recommend to anyone to at least visit once. You wont regret the experience. The funny part of this trip is when we first got there, I wouldnt leave my hotel room until I had a clear vision of exactly where we were going, I had my son with us who was I think eight at the time and I was very paranoid. But once I convinced myself it was OK, I couldnt get enough. And I dont care what other people say about New Yorkers, they were helpful and very nice.
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Reply by faceynotary on 10/21/06 10:48am
Msg #154179
Re: BrendaTX....New York is Great!!
Ms. Lisa:
Well you can stay in WI- just kidding LOL... NY hasn't changed but our city is a big target for terrorism... so in some parts like where the world trade was, it's swarming with SWAT, NYPD, and other officials. I used to work in that area a couple of years back and my heart jumped a beat every morning on my way to the work.
But NY is going to be the place to be, although it is now... the new Nets Stadium will be one attraction- but not only that- the real estate world will be KRAZY...
I almost left my beloved city to work in VA for a federal agency... but I could not due to family crises... Well it's cool because I have my business here and I am working on notary awareness and what not- sorry to say but Ignorance can be Bliss in certain areas of NYC... you'd be surprised how many of our communities just think notaries are almost non-existent and if one is ableto locate one, it's like striking gold. Honorable for but sad at the same time.
So I am here--- the Brooklyn Lady will stay on for a little while longer.
That Savvy Brooklyn NYC Dame.
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Reply by LisaWI on 10/21/06 11:31am
Msg #154193
Re: BrendaTX....New York is Great!! Did I mention....
Its a great place to visit but I wouldnt want to live there. So you are very correct in saying I can stay in Wisconsin. I commend you for living there. I am real used to the small town security that I have here. Another funny part about visiting there was looking at what the other lady's were wearing and laughing at myself because I was sooo outdated. LOL.
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Reply by faceynotary on 10/21/06 10:41am
Msg #154174
Re: how inappropriate was that?...Oh you are so NY!
Ms. Brenda:
Thank you so much for sharing the photos... Absolutely beautiful... Are those your daughters and son- gorgeous...
Wow I forgot how NYC can be a sight for sore eyes. When you live here, it's one big rat race baby. So you begin to detest and resent NY for the crudeness... But then you fall in love with it all over again, as it makes you a survivor, able to survive anywhere in the Nation.
Texas- been to Houston for the Essence Festival this year for July 4th. One word "Humidity"
Thanks for sharing and making me feel so fuzzy and wuzzy inside.
That Savvy Brooklyn NYker.
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Reply by Charm_AL on 10/21/06 10:49am
Msg #154180
Re: how inappropriate was that?...Oh you are so NY!
That is exactly how I felt about Chicago when I lived there. Now I'm a tourist and want to 'fit' everything in. The first thing my family expects is that I will need to eat at all my fav places, it's a joke. I have to 'see' downtown, have greek food, mexican, chinese and italian, polish and my 3 pizza puffs all squeezed into a week. I actually take the train up to Union Station to get myself sick on half a dozen real eggrolls....Everyone always puts on a few pounds after one of my trips up! How I miss home.
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Reply by BrendaTx on 10/21/06 10:52am
Msg #154182
Re: how inappropriate was that?...Facey...
*Are those your daughters and son- gorgeous...**
Rob absolutely loved NY. I cried when I saw his picture of Ground Zero. It brought it all home to me. Rob went with his dad and stepmom and his dad's 50th birthday last year.
My son/daughter-in-law to be are on the home page. It's their website. Stepsons and their wives, also. As a hobby, son Rob maintains family pictorial history there.
The redhaired baby girl is my great-niece. The older little girl and little boys are my stepson's boys - my grandsons/granddaughter.
We Texan's love our New York people. One thing 911 did was to bring us closer to you and to love you for all your strength, determination and grit.
Through the eyes of a tourist, your "land" is beautiful.
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Reply by BrendaTx on 10/21/06 10:57am
Msg #154187
Re: how inappropriate was that?...Facey...
>>We Texan's love our New York people.<<
Spelling police...cannot help myself...
Texans, not Texan's. Where is that teapot...time for one more cup? NO! Gotta get crackin'. Sigh.
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Reply by faceynotary on 10/21/06 11:07am
Msg #154189
Re: how inappropriate was that?...Facey...
Girl- you know that email, im's and chat room are the pioneers for Spelling-Bee Failure.
Don't worry about it.
Hey I am from NY- there are a million and one different broken English languages here...
Although English is a big thing with me too...
What kind of tea do you drink? I love me some tea... I love chamomile. Doesn't soung like a NY kind of thing? We only know Starbucks' stale coffee. LMAO.
Man it's 12:05 PM EDT- so much to do so little time.
Savvy Brooklyn NYKer
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Reply by faceynotary on 10/21/06 11:01am
Msg #154188
Re: how inappropriate was that?...Facey...
Oh okay- gorgeous.... you have a beautiful family.
Well I will never forget 911, but we have no choice to be resilient or atleast put on the best poker face we can muster up.
We New York people are a special case. LOL... Around the holidays, we get all warm like hot pudding... then when Jan. hits- we get hard again like a Carlito's Way scene- which was filmed in NY by the way LOL.
I am looking over the photos on the site... it has quite a few... I love family photos.
Thanks for the compliments of NY- but we do have some things that I abhor...
Dirt
Pan Handlers
Hustlers- that will walk you 2 blocks before they can comprehend "NO" - I don't want your cd.
Angry Police Men
Um did I say "DIRT?"
Congestion
High Taxes
High Rent
High Mortgages
Well I will stop here - don't want to sully NY's image.
That Savvy Brooklyn NYC Dame
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Reply by Becca_FL on 10/21/06 10:47am
Msg #154178
Re: how inappropriate was that?...Doc
Nice private dick work, Doc. Should we call you Doc Dick now or Dick Doc?
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Reply by Charm_AL on 10/21/06 10:49am
Msg #154181
ROFLMAO!!!... n/m
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Reply by Signing_Doc on 10/21/06 10:55am
Msg #154184
Maybe "Hickory Dick Doc"? lol n/m
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Reply by SarahBeth_CA on 10/21/06 10:53am
Msg #154183
That dingbat came in and provided the noose, a target, the bow and arrows, and the hemlock with a cup and bendy straw. What did she get for it? Some excellent advice"interview those you hire". Kudos to Brenda for the way she handled it. But I don't think Cherie really got it. Stuff will happen even in the best of situations. If she didn't want to deal with the bad then she shouldn't have entered the business.
She has earned dingbat of the month for coming in here with a complain session directed at us as her first post.
Also she didn't amend her fees enough in my book.
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Reply by Cherie_FL on 10/21/06 11:30am
Msg #154191
GIVE ME THE DEFINITION OF A DINGBAT AS IT APPLIES TO ME.....
Since you know me so well...As well as the other ethnic insinuations, like noose, a target, the bow and arrows, and the hemlock.
And as I said before "You Have A Choice"!
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Reply by Dorothy_MI on 10/21/06 11:39am
Msg #154194
I didn't want to enter into this fray but,
felt I had to speak my piece. Cherie, I too had visited your site some time back and didn't even sign up because I would have had to agree to the $50 fee. Sorry, those fees will only get you the brand new NSA's who haven't a CLUE about what they are doing. The new fees are better, but will propably only get you NSA's with maybe 50 loan signings under their belt and need to reach that magic 100 mark to start being about to command decent fees. This thread has reminded me of another one we had about a month ago, the poster was so overwhelmed with negative replies to his post and he kept trying and trying to justify his position (had NOTHING to do with Notary work, fees, Signing Agents, etc, completely OT). The thread went on for pages and pages. Finally, I told him that a good card player knows when to hold, knows when to fold, knows when to walk away and knows when to run.
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Reply by LisaWI on 10/21/06 11:48am
Msg #154197
Re: I didn't want to enter into this fray but,
Very well put Dorothy. I was thinking the same thing myself. Take the good out of the posts and make it work to your advantage. There is a lot of good advise in these posts. Let it slide off. Take a couple of days to think about it, calm down and it will all make sense.
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Reply by Cherie_FL on 10/21/06 11:59am
Msg #154202
Thanks Lisa & Dorothy...You are Right...
I thought this place was about helping each other and by no means did I intend to offend anyone...And because I wanted to voice my opinion, I have been called names and attacked by individuals I don't even know.
Even by a signing agent whom I did business with, who (might I add) was happy with the negoiated fee.
So, you are right...I'm otta here....No matter what I say, they take it and run with it..Always looking to find fault in someone else...
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Reply by Becca_FL on 10/21/06 1:29pm
Msg #154246
Cheri writes...
>>>I have been called names and attacked by individuals I don't even know.
Even by a signing agent whom I did business with, who (might I add) was happy with the negoiated fee.<<<
Please point out to me where I "attacked" you or called you "names." You either have me confused with another poster or you have a serious comprehension deficiency.
Get your facts straight, please.
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Reply by ThaliaRay_FL on 10/21/06 8:57pm
Msg #154295
Re: Thanks Lisa & Dorothy...You are Right...
I am the SA that you have done business with but in no way did I bash you last night... I was trying to say that you PAID me a good pay for a pretty easy job and I WOULD do business with your company again with out hesitation.
You definately misread what I wrote.
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Reply by AngelinaAZ on 10/21/06 12:26pm
Msg #154214
Dorothy... I think your advice fell on deaf ears...
This little *secret of survival* tip isn't going to help someone who looks at this entire thing with an attitude of *** "No matter what I say, they take it and run with it..Always looking to find fault in someone else..." ***
It always amazes me how people like this ever succeeded in opening signing services to begin with. If they EVER spent ANY time at all as an SA... and developed a PROFITABLE BUSINESS (keywords there) as an SA... these conversations would never even take place.
BTW... I like it when you say your piece... you do it so well!
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Reply by SarahBeth_CA on 10/21/06 11:45am
Msg #154195
What the h%^& are you talking about ethnic insinuations.
You came in and provided all the amo to get yourself fried. That is how DINGBAT applies to you. You basicly hung your own self, walked out onto the bow hunting range and handed the hunter everything he needed, and provided your own poison.
Then you don't listen to the excellent advice offered "interview those you hire". That is how DINGBAT applies to you.
"You have a choice". Do you have any idea how many notaries you have alientated by your complaining and lowballing. Yes $65 is a lowball fee. You made the choice easy for the sa. Speaking of choices you are the one who chose to become a ss. If you can't practice good business sence you are making the choice to use the same noose, target, bows and arrows, and hemlock on your business. You didn't learn when you lost a client. You aren't learning to listen to excellent advice. That is how DINGBAT applies to you.
Where ethnicity came in on this I have no idea. Do you even know what race I am? I don't know yours. Nor do I really care. DINGBAT'S come in all races. So to A$$ume anything while being completely ignorant of the facts is the action of a DINGBAT.
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Reply by Cherie_FL on 10/21/06 11:54am
Msg #154199
How would you know if I listened or not?
This conversation just took place and stopped being about professionalism a long time ago...
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Reply by SarahBeth_CA on 10/21/06 12:13pm
Msg #154209
When the advice was given you didn't even acknowledge it
which showed that you were more concerned with other issues rather than the possibilty that you screwed up by hiring inexperienced sa's. Your complaint post was strike one. Your inability to acknowledge excellent advice is strike two. Your trying to bring ethnicity into a discussion that has nothing to do with ethnicity is strike three. In many a sa's book you are out. And it's all your own doing. You fried the last egg in your dozen.
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Reply by BrendaTx on 10/21/06 11:56am
Msg #154201
Re: GIVE ME THE DEFINITION OF A DINGBAT AS IT APPLIES TO ME.....
**...As well as the other ethnic insinuations, like noose, a target, the bow and arrows, and the hemlock.**
Cherie - please do not turn this into something it is not. This is figurative speech. You came to the forum with a need to "teach" (and I get this from your remark that notaries should learn from your remarks).
While teaching, you hit many hot buttons with professional notaries. You see, this is our water cooler...if you want to enjoy the chat, you must consider who is standing around the cooler before giving a lecture on the behavior of those you'd like to link us with. We are not your problem. Your inexperienced contractors are.
You handed us the things to smack you around with (figurative speech: smack) because you said you lost a TC client from sending rotten workers out to do the job. This would be your noose to hang yourself with the water cooler group. The bow, arrows, hemlock are all tools used in methods of mayhem. (Figurative speech.)
This is not a discussion on ethnicity!
The figures of speech were to imply that you made your bed, now you are lying in it. (Figure of speech...we know you are not lying in bed.)
The best offense to stepping off into a fresh cow patty (figure of speech) is to stop discussing it. I should know. I have stepped in plenty-a patty.
This is both figurative and accurate as I have, indeed, stepped in cow patties throughout my life. They were plentiful in my childhood. I called them "green mud" and they made me scream and cry. They are really icky oozing up between your toes. I'd have to go wash them off in a water faucet...always half a mile away. I'd walk with much, much drama and loud wailing...making my way out of the cow pasture all the way up to my grandparent's house. Don't even bother to stop at the watering trough for obvious reasons. Pawpaw would dust my britches for that. (Figurative speech.)
Once cleaned up, I'd dry up my tears and stop the drama...back to skipping around the hay bales and sallying around the barn chasing puppies and kittens. Please consider this figurative story and do likewise. It's so much more enjoyable.
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Reply by Gary_CA on 10/21/06 12:02pm
Msg #154204
Dingbats and pornography...
hard to define, but ya know 'em when you see 'em.
This is a forum of notaries that work hard and like to be paid well... your post started by saying we're overpaid and sloppy... DING
If you've read a thread or two you'd know that the general opinion of SS is that they're an extra middle man taking a large piece out of a shrinking pie. Now there are variations on that topic and there are levels of SS's, but that's the gist of 40% of the posts here... BAT
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Reply by BrendaTx on 10/21/06 12:09pm
Msg #154208
Re: Dingbats and pornography...Gary
**Dingbats and pornography...hard to define, but ya know 'em when you see 'em.**
Oh dear, dear Gary.
I fear, fear, Gary...
That you have just incit-ed,
another ri-ot
with your prose!
Figurative speech...
Rhymes with "nude beach!"
Using "porn"
will get you the horn!
Oklahoma!
Oklahoma!
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Okay...wait...I think I started writing a show tune.
Nevermind.
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Reply by Gary_CA on 10/21/06 12:24pm
Msg #154213
Watch out George and Ira... here come Gary and Brenda
well maybe not, but I got a good laugh!!!
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Reply by Charles_Ca on 10/21/06 12:16pm
Msg #154210
It's called being strung up by your own petard!. n/m
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Reply by BrendaTx on 10/21/06 12:31pm
Msg #154216
Cherie - here is a good example of Petard Problems.
FROM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petard
The word remains in modern usage in the phrase to be hoist by one's own petard, which means "to be harmed by one's own plan to harm someone else" or "to fall in one's own trap". Shakespeare coined the now proverbial phrase in Hamlet.
The phrase is usually misquoted as "see the engineer hoist by his own petard" and is taken to mean "the hangman hanged with his own rope", or, as in Roadrunner cartoons, a rope, put out to catch something, entangles and hangs the one who set the trap, while the audience "sees" (watches) in amusement.
Hamlet's actual meaning is "cause the bomb maker to be blown into the air with his own bomb."
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Hamlet's meaning is a perfect analogy.
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Reply by Charles_Ca on 10/21/06 2:47pm
Msg #154257
And That's why I never wear one! n/m
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Reply by BrendaTx on 10/21/06 12:32pm
Msg #154218
Re: It's called being strung up by your own petard!.
Exactly, Charles. Perfect.
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Reply by Charles_Ca on 10/21/06 2:48pm
Msg #154259
Thank you, Brenda! n/m
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