Posted by ncc_mi on 4/13/07 8:45am
Msg #184970

Closing agents in CO

Does anyone know of any agent that go to Kit Carson County, in CO? I know its pretty rural, but it is in Stratton, CO?

Reply by Carolyn Bodley on 4/13/07 9:17am
Msg #184977

Plan on opening your wallet because you are looking for someone to drive practically to Kansas. Depending on coming from the north, i.e., Greeley, west, Denver, south, the Springs or Pueblo, you are looking at anywhere from 300-400 miles round trip. CHA CHING!!

Reply by Carolyn Bodley on 4/13/07 9:37am
Msg #184980

Re: current weather forecast for Eastern Colorado

Snow, fog, visibility 3/10 of a mile -- all meaning that I-70 stands a good chance of being closed due to blowing snow.

Reply by MistarellaFL on 4/13/07 9:38am
Msg #184981

Kansas allows dual state commissions

So you may want to find someone who is dually commissioned in KS/CO
actually located in KS who will travel, or have the brw's travel to the notary.
Or hire a local TC notary for the job.

Reply by ncc_mi on 4/13/07 9:43am
Msg #184983

Re: Kansas allows dual state commissions

I have found an experienced closing agent in that area. Amazingly!!
Thank you all!!

Reply by Carolyn Bodley on 4/13/07 10:16am
Msg #184990

Re: Kansas allows dual state commissions

*you may want to find someone who is dually commissioned in KS/CO*

What am I missing? To obtain a Colorado commission, you must be a resident of Colorado. When I looked at the Kansas handbook, it says that a Kansas notary public only has jurisdiction to perform notarial acts while in the state of Kansas.

Reply by MistarellaFL on 4/13/07 10:29am
Msg #184998

What you're missing

Kansas notary publics only have jurisdiction to perform notarial acts while in the state of KS.
YES. Kansas residents can also be dually commissioned, so..........
Kansas residents can also be a Missouri notary public to perform notarial acts while in the state of MO, as well.
I was only making a suggestion to the origninal poster to find someone who might be dually commissioned in both states.
As you can read, I made no mention of Colorado accepting dual commissions or non-resident notaries.
Just trying to be of help.

Reply by MistarellaFL on 4/13/07 10:31am
Msg #184999

or have the brw's travel to the notary n/m

Reply by Dennis D Broadbooks on 4/13/07 11:02am
Msg #185003

Kansas Residents...

...can ONLY be commissioned in Missouri if they are an EMPLOYEE of a company physically located in the State of Missouri AND they're REQUIRED to perform Notary duties by their EMPLOYER as part of their job description. Please note my emphasis on the words employer/employee! A self-employed individual working from their home or office situated in KS cannot...I repeat...CANNOT be legally commissioned as a Notary in Missouri. If you know of any particular individuals who fit this category & are performing notarizations in MO, you can either e-mail or private message me here on the NotRot board with their names. I know of someone in our MO SOS dept who'd be glad to check into this.

I've said this before but it bears repeating...one should always be careful about commenting about laws & statutes in a state outside of your own. It's hard enough to know every aspect of your own state's intricacies & sometimes "just trying to be of help" can lead someone astray.

Reply by Carolyn Bodley on 4/13/07 11:14am
Msg #185007

Re:Thank you Dennis n/m

Reply by MistarellaFL on 4/13/07 11:19am
Msg #185009

Wow

All I said was that KS residents may be dually commissioned, or the CO residents could come to the notary. I never wrote that a dually commissioned KS/MO notary could become dually commissioned if NOT employed in MO.
I think the best advice I gave was suggesting that the brw's travel the short distance to the KS border.
It all seems kind of moot since the original poster already found what they were looking for.
BTW, I used to be a notary in KS.

Reply by Carolyn Bodley on 4/13/07 11:30am
Msg #185012

Re: Wow

What you said and what Dennis responded to was:
*Kansas residents can also be a Missouri notary public to perform notarial acts while in the state of MO, as well.*

you didn't reference that it had to be an employee/employer notarization.

As for ruining my Cha Ching, even in the summer, there is NO WAY that I would drive to the Kansas border for a signing, let alone in a winter/spring blizzard -- thus my weather post. Apparently, you have never driven through eastern Colorado or western Kansas.

You can say its a moot point, but for a brand new Kansas notary that may not know any better, I believe your posts would lead them to believe they could perform notarizations in Colorado and in Missouri -- which as I and Dennis pointed out, is not so.

Reply by Dennis D Broadbooks on 4/13/07 11:43am
Msg #185013

The Comment I Took From Your Post...

...forming the basis of my reply was: "Kansas residents can also be a Missouri notary public to perform notarial acts while in the state of MO, as well." The gist of this thread is the finding of a dual commissioned Notary to travel to another state. It wouldn't make sense for someone in Missouri to attempt to find a dual commissioned (KS & MO) Kansas resident who is an employee of a company who requires them to be a Notary solely for their company work. Now there COULD be a signing service located in Missouri who hires a KS resident as an employee to do loan document signings, but they absolutely would have to be an employee. If they're an independent contractor they cannot legally obtain dual commission status in Missouri.

Reply by Carolyn Bodley on 4/13/07 12:01pm
Msg #185016

Re: Your words

*So you may want to find someone who is dually commissioned in KS/CO
actually located in KS who will travel*

Reply by BrendaTx on 4/13/07 12:08pm
Msg #185019

Mistarella - If I am not mistaken, you are trying to offer a

glimpse into thinking outside of the box for that part of the country. Does that seem correct?

I remember you lived in Kansas and have a pretty good grip on the notary rules there.

Reply by MistarellaFL on 4/13/07 12:16pm
Msg #185020

Re: Mistarella - If I am not mistaken, you are trying to offer a

Since no one else was being helpful, yes.
But, then again, some posters are more helpful than others.
I know YOU get it Brenda.

Reply by hcampersFL on 4/13/07 12:45pm
Msg #185024

I get it, I get it!!! n/m

Reply by Dennis D Broadbooks on 4/13/07 1:04pm
Msg #185028

I Appreciate Your Attempt...

...at mediating this little tete-a-tete between Misty & I. However I'll reiterate my previous "repeat"...all of us (including me) should be very careful in our attempt to assist others who reside in states other than our own when it comes to Notary statutes & laws. That goes for people who used to live in one state & now reside elsewhere. Laws change constantly. It bothers me personally to no end when I see posters making blanket statements based on other state's statutes, even if they've lifted them off the state's web site. I've learned from my dealings with Missouri's SOS there's hardly ever anything cast in stone & the only way to stay on top of changes is to be in constant communication with them. I attend every Notary workshop our SOS puts on in the St Louis area & during the one I was at a couple of months ago I was provided with some insights into how they now allow us to use hospital or nursing home ID's in lieu of photo ID's. I can guarantee you 90% of the Notaries in MO don't know this revision exists. It wasn't something published in a bulletin & sent out to all MO Notaries.

Just my "thinking outside of the box"!

Reply by BrendaTx on 4/13/07 1:12pm
Msg #185032

Re: I Appreciate Your Attempt...check your pm, Dennis. n/m

Reply by BrendaTx on 4/13/07 1:12pm
Msg #185033

Re: I Appreciate Your Attempt...check your pm, Dennis. n/m

Reply by Carolyn Bodley on 4/13/07 1:21pm
Msg #185034

Re: I Appreciate Your Attempt...

I'm still scratching my head as to why the topic even went into the direction of whether a [dual commissioned] Kansas notary can or can't notarize documents in Missouri -- when the original post referenced BOs residing in Colorado, the opposite direction from Missouri -- a post I might add, where the poster didn't even have the professional courtesy of using a name or company, and is questionable whether they know the difference between a signing agent and a closing agent.

Reply by Carolyn Bodley on 4/13/07 1:31pm
Msg #185039

Re: I Appreciate Your Attempt...

My reply was not directed at you Dennis. I appreciate your Missouri information. I just don't understand why Missouri was originally mentioned when Colorado and Missouri are opposite sides of Kansas.

Reply by Carolyn Bodley on 4/13/07 11:12am
Msg #185006

Re: What you're missing

From your original post I was reading it to say that a Kansas notary can be commissioned in Colorado, and the reason I posted was to point out that they would be required to have a residence in Colorado in order to apply for and be issued a Colorado commission -- and that the Kansas notary would not just be able to drive across the Kansas/Colorado state line and carry out the signing in Colorado. As for the option of the BOs driving to Kansas, I thought that was obvious.

If Kansas residents can hold a Missouri commision, Missouri must not have a residency law, am I correct?

Reply by Carolyn Bodley on 4/13/07 11:16am
Msg #185008

Re: Never mind about my question of KS/MO residency

Dennis answered it.

Reply by MistarellaFL on 4/13/07 11:20am
Msg #185010

Did I ruin your cha-ching? n/m