Posted by LarryTN on 4/28/07 11:14am
Msg #187693
Need Some Help
I have a signing today and one of the signers has "Et Ux" behind his name...What does this mean? Does the signer sign this behind his name? This is a new one on me and I have tried the search bar with no results! Any legal minds out there?
TIA
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Reply by sue_pa on 4/28/07 11:17am
Msg #187694
Latin for "and wife"
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Reply by ZeeCA on 4/28/07 11:17am
Msg #187695
Made me curious... I googled it.. and legal explanations.com:
http://www.legal-explanations.com/definitions/et-ux.htm
Et Ux.
(et uhks) n. abbreviation for the Latin words et uxor meaning "and wife." It is usually found in deeds, tax assessment rolls and other documents in the form "John Alden et ux.," to show that the wife as well as the husband own property. The connotation that somehow the wife is merely an adjunct to her husband, as well as the modern concepts of joint tenancy, tenancy in common, community property where applicable and equal rights of the sexes have combined to make the expression a chauvinistic anachronism.
but that does not answer how to sign.........
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Reply by LarryTN on 4/28/07 11:25am
Msg #187697
Thanks so much for your help! It never occured to me to Google it...I will have him sign with the additional abbreviation at the end...Better to over sign than under sign!
Thanks to you all and have a great day!
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Reply by Linda_H/FL on 4/28/07 11:30am
Msg #187699
Re: Larry - check with title first
"et ux" is not like adding "Jr." or "Sr." after someone's name - I don't think he can sign "John Doe et ux" - "et ux" being "and wife" means "wife" has ownership interest.....
You REALLY need to check with title immediately...IMO
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Reply by Tim_Mphs/TN on 4/28/07 1:08pm
Msg #187721
Re: Larry - check with title first
Agree 100% -- check with title first.
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Reply by Lee/AR on 4/28/07 12:03pm
Msg #187702
Linda's right... besides
How ya' gonna ID et ux? The only place I've seen et ux and et al (same thing-only different) is as part of the 'name' in the Country Recording office's lists. Shows up on your r.e. tax bill sometimes, too.
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Reply by Tim_Mphs/TN on 4/28/07 12:55pm
Msg #187714
Re: Linda's right... besides
"et al" is short for "et alia" and it means "and others" (NOT THE SAME AS "And Wife" .
"etc." is short for "et cetera" and means "and so forth".
Yes, I took Latin in high school. (:-)) No, I don't remember much of it. I am a former Legal Secretary, tho, and have some reference book left in my home library.
-- Tim
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Reply by Linda_H/FL on 4/28/07 1:18pm
Msg #187724
Re: All a moot point, Tim
I assume he already went to the signing since he hasn't responded to the thread - can only hope he saw this before he left and maybe didn't have time to respond - and wish him the best of luck.
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Reply by Tim_Mphs/TN on 4/29/07 2:09am
Msg #187842
Linda, right you are. n/m
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Reply by Barb/MO on 4/28/07 12:05pm
Msg #187703
I would suggest you leave et ux. off the signature
In addition to the correct info you have already received, consider that this is like "et al.," which basically means, "and the rest of them." I would be really surprised if the TC wanted you to have him include that in his signature.
I'm not an attorney, et cetera.
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Reply by Linda_H/FL on 4/28/07 12:09pm
Msg #187705
Re: Oh yeah - me too..not an attorney - forgot that part..:) n/m
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Reply by LkArrowhd/CA on 4/28/07 2:02pm
Msg #187741
Re: Larry your reponse of it never occurred to me to google
it, reminded me of the movie "Meet the Fockers" when Ben Stillers charactor says "oh sure you can milk anything" too funny.
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Reply by ZeeCA on 4/28/07 12:14pm
Msg #187707
btw: My post was not to suggest how to sign but only to
define it...
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Reply by BrendaTx on 4/28/07 1:54pm
Msg #187737
Never saw et ux on a signature line.
The term is like et al (and others) which you might be more familiar with.
I am gambling that it's a misprint if it is on the signature line....how could anyone sign for their wife?
Usually you see it in the body of legal documents, but not on a signature line...in my experience anyhow.
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Reply by Lisa Prestegard on 4/28/07 2:04pm
Msg #187744
I've seen it in Missouri (eons ago, in the Ozarks, once). The TC knew the man was married, but didn't know her name, and she was to join on the dower docs.
That's the only explanation ever given to me regarding "et ux".
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Reply by Charles_Ca on 4/28/07 10:26pm
Msg #187825
Re: Need Some Help~ It used to be seen quite a bit in the
vesting of deeds since at one time it was an important distinction. Since the sexual revolution in the 60s and now that there are ways to take vesting between same-sex and domestic partners that allow right of survivorship one doesn't see it, at least in California. I haven't even seen it on licensing exams since the mid 70's.
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