Posted by JOHNA MCKENNA-MANTICA on 2/12/07 12:08pm
Msg #175336

NNA

I am a new NSA. I was under the impression that if you are signed up with NNA thats all you need. I think I may be wrong...looking for guidance.

Reply by Glenn Strickler on 2/12/07 12:25pm
Msg #175340

Use the search button and type NNA in and view the posts.

Reply by Ndwa on 2/12/07 12:27pm
Msg #175341

You'd posted twice asking how slow it is now saying you're new. It's not as easy as you thought making 6 figures income as a notary. Already a broker and a builder yourself, it may not be too late to quit and get back focusing on doing what you do best.

Reply by BrendaTx on 2/12/07 12:29pm
Msg #175342

Johna, you have been posting since August. At one time you had $1,000 in accounts receivables from Sox alone. That's hardly new.

You have asked twice this week if people are "slow."

IMHO you might want to stop *waiting* for an answer...start reading this board from cover to cover and learn what you have let get by you by *waiting* for answers rather than digging in.

If you use the search button you'll learn a lot about the NNA.

Reply by Lee/AR on 2/12/07 1:00pm
Msg #175343

Perspective of over 12 years....

Like the building trades & real estate sales... this business has a cycle, too. About 2001 to 2004 was the peak... dwindling some in 2005 & a bit more in 2006. Think we've hit bottom and who knows how long it will stay there.
Frankly, what everyone seems to be calling 'slow', is more like 'normal' for the years 1993-1999. At least, that's my experience.

Reply by NJ_Notary on 2/12/07 1:21pm
Msg #175349

Business Cycle

Hi Lee.

What are your thoughts on when the cycle is going to change again and become more peaking rather than the norm? Thru different meetings (local commerce meetings ,etc( and fuctions with other professionals there seems to be a sense that this will be in approximately 3 yrs. Some have said 2 other 4 but the majority have said 3 Id like hear what everyone thinks.

TIA

Reply by NJ_Notary on 2/12/07 1:23pm
Msg #175350

Re: Business Cycle

Sorry for the typos . Multi tasking and on the phone while here. On hold with tech support for my laptop and they came on while I was typing. Take care.

Reply by MistarellaFL on 2/12/07 1:30pm
Msg #175352

Re: Business Cycle

My thoughts are that those of us with regular clientele will do "OK" for the next year or 2.
I doubt if it will ever return to the volume of 2003 with so many new NSA's all vying for the promised $100 K (salary) prize. What's her name was right about foreclosures being big business, I almost wish I had bought into that.

Reply by Lee/AR on 2/12/07 2:01pm
Msg #175360

Re: Business Cycle

Think Misty has it right. The 'peak' was when interest rates dropped substantially from what they had been for many years. Lotta refi's produced that peak. Interest rates are still fairly low & so that is NOT going to nudge the market again. Nor do I foresee, oh, say, 3.5 to 4% mortgages in the future either. Near as I can figure, we'll muddle along in 'normal' (slow)mode for quite a while. How long? I dunno--my crystal ball broke. What will keep us not-so-busy is people getting out of all those ARMs and into either fixed rates or (tho' I'd hate to see this as it bodes no good) interest only. And, eventually, foreclosures--tho' I admit I know nothing much about the latter. Ask somebody in Michigan.

Reply by NJ_Notary on 2/12/07 3:54pm
Msg #175383

Re: Business Cycle

As a Real Estate Broker I specialize in REO properties and I can not speak for other markets, but in my market we are definately seeing an influx in foreclosures. Lis pendens are up and so are the # of REO properties currently on the market. Foreclosures cooled down for a little while, but we are now back in the game with them; and with force might I add. Alot of foreclosures are being puchased at the sheriff's sale in my market. This has been going on for about the last 3-4 yrs. I am inclined to say this wont be the case in the next few years. The true or career real estate investors who have purchased at the sheriff's sale in the past will continue to; however, the average investor or newbie who has of late puchased at the sale will not be.

Ok that may have geared off topic, but just thought I'd mention it.

Reply by JOHNA MCKENNA-MANTICA on 2/12/07 1:30pm
Msg #175353

Re: Business Cycle

First of all.. I am new Brenda. I have been doing this for about a year. I only posted twice because I couldn't find on the site the answers to my first post. I didn't write to be attacked I wrote for help. I am good at this I take offense to what was said. I thought I could get some advise on what company to spend money on and what is a rip-off.

Reply by ericashaw on 2/12/07 1:37pm
Msg #175355

Re: Business Cycle

You are not allowed to ask questions that anyone might think is stupid. This is a place for "veterans" only and the rest of us are supposed to keep our mouths shut and know our place. I have been ridiculed enough to know there are a few people you can ask privately for help otherwise you will be chastised to no end. If you have not been in the business for 65 years and get $700 per signing then you are not allowed to talk.

Reply by Roger_OH on 2/12/07 1:48pm
Msg #175357

Erica...

It's not that questions are stupid; there are certain elements of being a notary public that anyone posting here is expected to know (in any state) before you put that title after your name. If someone comes on here asking the difference between and ack and a jurat, yes, they will be taken to task for not knowing what is Notary 101.

Hundreds of the same questions have been asked over and over during the years, and a simple use of the search button can alleviate a lot of grief for you.

Strongly suggest you review message # 76283 for a broader perspective.

Reply by christiSocal on 2/12/07 2:33pm
Msg #175366

I have asked a number of questions

and have been a notary for almost 4 years (in June) also I have NEVER gotten 700$ a signing (don't I wish!). I have gotten some constructive criticism, that I have used to my business's benefit. I have also gained wisdom and a thicker skin, which has helped greatly with difficult borrowers, LO's, and SS's !
I also talk all the time (probably too often )

Reply by BrendaTx on 2/12/07 2:36pm
Msg #175367

Re: Business Cycle

**If you have not been in the business for 65 years and get $700 per signing then you are not allowed to talk. **

Okay, that's funny...and I assume you meant it to be. Otherwise, please forgive me having a giggle at it.

Reply by Roger_OH on 2/12/07 1:40pm
Msg #175356

Dude, she IS trying to help you...

with how to best use this board and get the responses you need. Judging from the fact that you still note in your profile that you're a "broker", you didn't seem to get much out of the previous responses to you suggesting that it would be best to remove that reference.

Reply by JOHNA MCKENNA-MANTICA on 2/12/07 1:56pm
Msg #175358

Re: Dude, she IS trying to help you...

First of all I am not a Dude.. I am a woman. I don't understand what your talking about. No one has told me to remove Broker from my profile. Forgive me if I don't know all about this site. My main question is "do companies hire from this site"? Thats all and I got attacked.

Reply by Lee/AR on 2/12/07 2:04pm
Msg #175361

Re: Dude, she IS trying to help you...

Yes... and the xyz is Nah! We have to talk in code here... do a search using the orange button to find out why.

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 2/12/07 2:12pm
Msg #175362

Re: Dude, she IS trying to help you...

Johna
When you ask if companies hire from this site - I didn't see that in your original question - do you mean from NotaryRotary or from the NNA??
I have a signing service and I do use NotaryRotary to find signing agents, the NNA I use as a last resort.

Reply by CaliNotary on 2/12/07 2:26pm
Msg #175364

Actually your main question

was whether you were a sucker for buying into the NNA hype. And the answer is yes, you obviously fell for it hook, line and sinker.

Do you have any idea how ignorant that statement made you sound? You really thought that all you had to do was give a few hundred bucks to the NNA and everything would fall into place? Anyone with that type of mentality really shouldn't even consider being self employed.

This is no different than starting any other business. You work your a$$ off and MAYBE you'll be successful. You expect someone else to be responsible for your success and you are guaranteed to fail. But at least you'll contribute to the success of scam artists like the NNA.

Reply by JOHNA MCKENNA-MANTICA on 2/12/07 2:40pm
Msg #175368

Re: Actually your main question

Who the hell are you. I didn't just give the NNA money and wait. I am signed up with hundreds of companies. How does that make me sound ignorant. I made a ton of money last year. I have only been on here a few times because I was so busy. It slowed down and I asked a couple of questions. I work very hard and have been self employed for 15 years. You and the rest of you ignorant people should spend more time working than beating up on people for asking questions. Do you have any idea how ignorant you sound. How does asking a question make you sound ignorant. I have noticed your name on here a thousand times. Nothing else to do? I can't believe what you just said to me. You have made my decision very easy. I won't upgrade my membership. That is all I was trying to figure out. Keep your little coffee clutch. I need a place that is professional. This is a joke.

Reply by notarymd on 2/12/07 2:46pm
Msg #175370

Re: Actually your main question

Okay...just an observation. I have just recently started posting information to this site as well and, quite frankly, it seems a little on the clicky side. The moment I made a statement, some people became very suspect of who I was. It seemed a bit odd.

Reply by Ndwa on 2/12/07 2:54pm
Msg #175373

Re: Actually your main question

We are ignorant, clicky, mean, and rude b/c having our membership here is like having a gold mine. Maybe we sounded that way b/c we don't need another competition. Happy now?

Reply by BrendaTx on 2/12/07 3:13pm
Msg #175377

Re: Actually your main question

**We are ignorant, clicky, mean, and rude b/c having our membership here is like having a gold mine. Maybe we sounded that way b/c we don't need another competition. Happy now?**

Okay, Andy...I snorted.

Reply by Glenn Strickler on 2/12/07 3:43pm
Msg #175381

Wow! This went downhill fast.

Johna,

You really could not find anything on the board when you used the terms "NNA" or "Getting Started" or "Marketing" ?

You should have taken my advice after the first post and searched. A couple of years ago when I began, I got all my marketing information by using the search key. All the info there kept me busy creating a marketing strategy and kept me too busy to post for a while. When I did post, I was accepted by this community and never had a problem. Of course, when you get older, you put your ego in perspective, get a thick skin and the little stuff doesn't bother you. I suggest you work on that as working with any people in any kind of service business, you will have issues unless you do just that .......

Reply by Roger_OH on 2/12/07 2:57pm
Msg #175374

Johna, do you NOT read the responses YOU asked for??

On the last thread that you began with "Slow?", Joan/OH clearly stated to you in message #174987 that it was NOT in your best interest to list yourself as a broker in your profile.

She suggested why this could be affecting the calls you get.

Reply by Cap_in_Calif on 2/12/07 3:04pm
Msg #175375

Re: Johna, do you NOT read the responses YOU asked for??

After all, you started this thread by saying:

"I am a new NSA. I was under the impression that if you are signed up with NNA thats all you need. I think I may be wrong...looking for guidance."

You make it sound as if this is not what you asked, but you did, and *this* is what people are responding to.

Reply by Signing_Doc on 2/12/07 3:07pm
Msg #175376

certified signing agent and licensed NYS Real Estate Broker

That is your ENTIRE profile....doesn't fill me with warm fuzzies and want to hire you....
First off...Most of the SS I work with WILL NOT use a real estate broker OR a Loan Officer...if you are active. And the Title Companies I work with ALSO don't want a RE or a LO as their NSA. Possible competition...stealing of present/future loans...possible conflicts of interest or other reasons which only THEY know about. You may (as it has been SO many times relayed to you)...want to update your profile to remove the stmt of being a RE and maybe...oh I don't know...give me MORE information about YOU...how many signings have you done...are you reliable...are you available when "I" need you...are you bonded, insured, E&O...digame baby (a little Spanish lingo)...

Just my input by someone who is probably in your mind rude, snotty or crude.

"Doc"

Reply by Blueink_CA on 2/12/07 3:27pm
Msg #175379

You left out - sarcastic, snipy, nasty and abrupt

Refering to post 175228. I guess if someone asks a question and doesn't get the response they were looking for, well, either argue with the responders or post the same question again.

Actually in my case, I really was asking the poster to clarify his misunderstanding.

Welcome to the 2% of us horrible, mean NSA's.

Reply by SE/Florida on 2/12/07 5:29pm
Msg #175393

I've just noticed.....

Where is Charm? I don't see any posts from her lately. I'm one that posts very little, but try to read this board every day. I sincerely value this site! All you verterans have helped me tremendously- thank you!. And Sylvia....you're just the best! I just really missed Charm in this thread.

Reply by MichiganAl on 2/12/07 10:36pm
Msg #175438

Dudette, make up your mind

You're new, no wait, you're not new. You need help, no wait, you're incredibly successful. You signed up with the NNA and expected everything to roll in, no wait, you've actually listed yourself in hundreds of places. You want help, no wait, you only want to hear affirmations.

You've received some great answers, you're just to busy being oversensitive and ungrateful to notice.

Reply by SarahBeth_CA on 2/12/07 6:43pm
Msg #175406

Johna

You have 2 choices here. The first and worst is to not listen to any of the responses which is a bad idea. Number 2 which is the best thing you can do is go back and reread the responses given. Open your eyes and ears and take these pearls of wisdom to heart. You were given good advice. Don't cry like a baby because it was served with biscuts and jelly. You're being a complete ingrate.

Reply by Becca_FL on 2/12/07 10:12pm
Msg #175433

Dear Looking for Guidance,

You have been given many fine tips from many seasoned professionals, yet you have failed to act on any of the tips given to you. Why? And, why does this make us mean?

This gi'me, gi'me attitude shows up time and time again on this board and many of us are just plain tired of it. WTH does the XYZ teach you???? Nothing, IMHO. Why do I, and others, have this opinion of the XYZ? Because, week after week, we see the ignorant comments and questions from newly "certified" NSAs that have the attitude that they are owed something from the veterans in the business.

Well, I've got news for you, nobody owes you anything. If you have a brain, know what you are doing and apply your knowledge and skills (if you have any), you will be successful. If you sit around and wait for the phone to ring from your XYZ listing, you will fail miserably. This business is not rocket science, but it does take effort. If you are not willing to do the grunt work just get out now.

Quit whining and start working!

Reply by David Kral on 2/14/07 5:11pm
Msg #175699

This just precious!

Ask the NNA for a refund!