Posted by Pamela on 7/15/07 11:57pm
Msg #200030

CaliNotary

Thought about you yesterday.

Completed the 6 hour renewal class. What an experience
(and no, it wasn't with the NNA)!

This instructor told the large class (which was mostly new notaries),
that credible witnesses could be used for EVERYTHING (including loan signings)!


The entire "teaching" was not only boring, but the instructor made several errors
about notarial work (and when called on it, chose to change the subject).


Pam

Reply by Pamela on 7/16/07 12:09am
Msg #200031

CaliNotary Correction

". . . (which was mostly new notaries),"

Meant to say (the majority of whom wanted to be notaries).


The 6 hour class (as you know) is for notaries renewing their
commission (for the first time) and for those persons, who want
to become notaries.


Pam

Reply by ewing2surf on 7/16/07 12:56am
Msg #200033

Re: CaliNotary Correction

Where was the class?

Reply by Pamela on 7/16/07 1:18am
Msg #200035

ewing2surf

Please Check Your PM!

Reply by JanetK_CA on 7/17/07 2:25am
Msg #200233

Why not let the rest of us know....

I plan to start working on my renewal some time around January as my commission expires again in June. I'd be curious to know, also - and I'd bet I'm not the only one... Thanks.

Reply by christiSocal on 7/17/07 3:29am
Msg #200234

Janet

I started my renewal this past Jan. (My Commission expired in June as well) Got everything done in plenty of time. I used the NotRot class. I thought it was excellent. I would recommend it to anyone. Very clear and accurate. No "doing" notaries in any language. LOL

Reply by Joan Bergstrom on 7/16/07 1:02am
Msg #200034

Re: CaliNotary Correction

Same question as Joe: what was the name of the notary company?

Reply by Pamela on 7/16/07 1:19am
Msg #200036

Joan

Please also Check Your PM!

Reply by CaliNotary on 7/16/07 2:06am
Msg #200040

I'm not surprised

After reading this board for a few years, I'm convinced that maybe 10% of the notaries in California have even a basic understanding of notary law.

I did the NotaryRotary course when I had to renew. I don't think I could have stomached sitting through a 6 hour class. Although calling the teacher on her mistakes and making her look like an idiot sounds kind of fun, lol.

Reply by Pamela on 7/16/07 3:01am
Msg #200041

Re: I'm not surprised

A big disappointment!

Here are a few more examples:

1.) In CA, notaries cannot use an interpreter. So this guy was selling Spanish
translation books to use when "doing a notary" or loan signing.
"This book is all you need. . .you can't use an interrupter but you can use a
translator book " (for those notaries, like myself, you do not speak Spanish).

2.) That a notary cannot turn anyone away, "No matter what, even if the person
looks or acts suspicious. . .Even if you have a gut feeling that something is wrong"

Note: He failed to mention that the signer needs to be of a sound mind, to be
of his/her own "free will" etc. . .

3.) "That in the 'real world', we choose the signers Acknowledgment
or Jurat for them." Why? Because "most of the time, they do not
know which one. . .and you want to make that money. Why send
them back to the document originator to find out which one. . .
when they'll probably find another notary, before coming back to you?"

4.) That the "signature is the legal name. . ." Not the name on the
identification card. In class there was an example of a signer,
who had a valid government issued I.D. However, the person signed
with a different name (added to it). The instructor then said, that the
way someone signs "is their legal name" and not the name listed
on the I.D.

I strongly disagreed with this as I told him, that the
name on the I.D. is the name which is (or should be) correct.

He told me I was wrong.

Now, outside of class, I asked him the same thing again. This time
he said that the name on the I.D. would be the correct legal name.
I reminded him that this is not what he said in class, and he acted
like he did not know what I was talking about.

5.) "Doing a notary" or "Doing notaries". When he first said this, I thought
perhaps it was a slip of the tongue. But the entire time, that we were in class,
when in reference to completing a notarial act or notarization, he used
"Doing a notary" or "Doing notaries".

6.) Text messaging. He sure knew how to do that! Too bad he had to "teach"
in-between.

7.) Told the class (again mostly people who want to become notaries), that
"a new notary can easily make between $150.00 and $300.00" on the
very first assignment. That "you could do 4 to 5 notaries a day. It only takes
45 minutes max. . ." That they would not have any problems working with
title or escrow companies, ". . .that it's all in the marketing."


Pleasant dreams. . .



Pam

Reply by FLdocrunner on 7/16/07 6:54am
Msg #200044

sounds like teacher needs to speak with sos

especially if he is out there "doing notaries" LOL

Reply by FLdocrunner on 7/16/07 6:56am
Msg #200045

Re: sounds like teacher needs to speak with sos

sorry for above post, couldnt resist! hehehe

Reply by Brenda Stone on 7/16/07 7:09am
Msg #200046

Re: I'm not surprised

That one should have been called: "The Calfornia Notary Class: My WAY!"

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 7/16/07 9:44am
Msg #200049

Re: I'm not surprised

Maybe you should send a copy of this breakdown to your SOS to show them the caliber of "mandatory" training being provided - if this kind of misinformation is being offered the instructor, IMO, should be reported - not to mention if he's a commissioned notary who follows these guidelines!

Reply by jba/fl on 7/16/07 9:55am
Msg #200054

I agree w/Linda H/FL - there is no sense in having these

kinds of people and businesses cluttering up the landscape that already has enough problems as it is. No information is better than mis-information. Such irresponsibility should not be rewarded w/silence.

Reply by Sarah/CA on 7/16/07 9:54am
Msg #200053

Dream on.

All those poor new notaries. I hope they don't all go out and quit their day jobs right after that class thinking they will be making that kind of money especially now. Also, I could not believe they would be selling a translation book. I would not want the liability if I cannot communicate since I know we cannot use a interpreter. Even if I can learn "sign here" or the oath in another language, what if they have question about the signing. I would not touch that one. I would like to know who this class was with also.

Reply by janCA on 7/16/07 11:06am
Msg #200066

This makes me sick

When I read Pam's post, it literally made me ill. This is so wrong and this organization and this instructor needs to be reported to the SOS. These people need to be out of business NOW!

Reply by CaliNotary on 7/16/07 2:03pm
Msg #200084

Re: I'm not surprised

". . .that it's all in the marketing."

Now that sounds familiar, Joan Bergstrom has been trying to convince us of that for years!

Reply by John_NorCal on 7/16/07 11:18am
Msg #200067

Re: Your class

**(and no, it wasn't with the NNA)!***

Are you SURE this guy wasn't an NNA shill? Jeez, what an idiot! This type of thing should be reported to the secretary of state's office. Even if your "classmates" don't try to do loan signings, think of all the damage they can cause in general notary work.

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 7/16/07 11:30am
Msg #200070

Re: I agree...

And this is the part that had me wondering the same thing:

"Told the class (again mostly people who want to become notaries), that
"a new notary can easily make between $150.00 and $300.00" on the
very first assignment"...hmmm

Reply by LC/AZ on 7/16/07 11:31am
Msg #200072

Re: Your class

Also, whoever sponsored the class, should call all who registered , back in for re-training. And at no additional charge!

Reply by Calnotary on 7/16/07 11:33am
Msg #200073

Pamela can you be sued if you say the name of this Co? n/m

Reply by Jeffry Salvaggio on 7/16/07 3:50pm
Msg #200110

WoW! very comical! Keep up the good work! ;-)