Posted by Windsor Capital Mortgage on 7/18/07 12:31pm
Msg #200520

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Reason: Advertising

Reply by NCLisa on 7/18/07 12:35pm
Msg #200523

This is ADVERTISING and it is WRONG!

So when one of your MB's promises the borrowers 1 loan, and the docs the notary brings out, are for another product, how are you going to feel when that same notary refers the borrower to even another company with your tactics?!

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 7/18/07 12:36pm
Msg #200524

Re: Not on your life!!

Talk about privacy violations..

" forward us this information: borrowers name, address, loan amount, rate, phone number, type of loan, title company, lender for the loan you was closing, and all your contact info with invoice for $300 to [e-mail address]"

I don't share borrower information with anyone...period.

Plus this post, IMO, is inappropriate here

Reply by Calnotary on 7/18/07 12:37pm
Msg #200525

Re: Make $300 per closing!!!

I am sorry, that's a little unethical on the signing agent's part.

Reply by Jon_PA on 7/18/07 12:39pm
Msg #200526

Re: Make $300 per closing!!!

That is so far over the line. Ever hear of ethics?

Reply by Sharon Taylor on 7/18/07 12:41pm
Msg #200528

A "little" unethical? A LOT unethical IMHO

The information we receive as notaries is confidential and must be treated as such. No amount of boiling oil, ripped-off fingernails, fires under our feet....or even piles of money....should persuade us to violate the trust and confidence of the companies and individuals we work with! What we see, we don't see; what we hear, we don't hear; what we know, we don't know. Period.

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 7/18/07 12:41pm
Msg #200530

Re: Remember the name of this company

All of us should make sure we never do business with them.

Reply by Calnotary on 7/18/07 12:43pm
Msg #200531

Re: Remember the name of this company

I think "our" Charles originates loan for this mortgage. I am not saying he is affiliated with this bozo but he can look into it.

Reply by Rachel/ORWA on 7/18/07 1:48pm
Msg #200556

I hate it when something gets deleted before I see it! ;-(

Seriously, though, not too hard to figure out what it was all about from the subsequent posts. I agree with the responses, and it seems like a person's common sense and personal integrity would prevent them from sharing borrowers' information for personal gain. I never cease to be amazed by this sort of thing.

Reply by Windsor Capital Mortgage on 7/18/07 2:26pm
Msg #200574

Re: Remember the name of this company

I think you have totally missed the purpose of my post and how the mortgage biz works. I had a notary business and was successful for over 8 years in doing mobile notary service. I got out when everything went to 50.00 per loan signing and more and more notaries start doing signing. I got into the the mortgage end of course because of better income. I got tired of waiting two months to get paid or not getting paid at all by companies like SOX (sign on the x) or if a loan cancels getting 50% or nothing most of the time. So the the past year I have been doing mortgage loans and thought about helping ones that have been in my situation in doing signing. Many of you know that once a title company calls you for a loan you get paid quickly and I learned as a loan officer I have control of who closes the loan and this is how I came up with this idea. Maybe saying forward my info to the borrowers would of sounded better. Regardless my intentions was trying to help out the not to be flamed. I can buy the same leads from companies all day for 5 to 30 bucks each because of the credit reporting companies selling them, but they would not aid you guys. Anyway the post will be deleted after speaking witht the administrator since so many look at the post in the wrong way. Lastly this in noway was about stealing a loan that closing as some of you are alluding too, but acquiring a dead loan where the borrowers does NOT want to deal with the current lender. For the post about betrying your employer this is totally wrong because whoever contracted you to do the loan will not get paid if the loan was cancelled along with you so you are not betraying anyone in anyway but helping them get paid. The lender will be stuck with the bill from the title company and appraiser, but who will be stuck your fee or the signing company fee?

Thanks

Reply by christiSocal on 7/18/07 2:34pm
Msg #200580

Re: Remember the name of this company

No matter how you perfume it, Windsor, it still stinks to high heaven!!! That tiny little word, INTEGRITY, just keeps getting in the way...

Reply by Charles_Ca on 7/18/07 2:48pm
Msg #200588

Christi, Windsor Capital is located in San Diego

I know that they do not do business that way, I've represented them for several years and enjoy an excellent relationship. Additionally Windsor is the 2nd largest loan broker in the US. I suggest that you contact them about this post if you find it offensive.

Ron Temko, Broker
Windsor Capital Mortgage Corporation
10935 Vista Sorrento Parkway #200
San Diego, CA 92130
858-436-2000
www.windsorcap.com

Reply by christiSocal on 7/18/07 3:00pm
Msg #200594

Re: Christi, Windsor Capital is located in San Diego

I'll be glad to. I can't imagine a good company condoning this!
Thanks!

Reply by Charles_Ca on 7/18/07 2:35pm
Msg #200581

I represent Windsor Capital in Laguna Hills, Ron Temko will

really love to hear about your way of doing business.

Reply by Charles_Ca on 7/18/07 5:26pm
Msg #200636

PS: Windsor Capital requires all advertising to be passed

through their compliance officer, I am sure that this was not done in this case. The penalty for advertising without approval is immediate termination! The appropriate autorities have been notified!

Reply by Rachel/ORWA on 7/18/07 2:37pm
Msg #200582

Re: Remember the name of this company

This is essentially saying that the end justifies the means. Regardless of your or anyone else's intentions, the borrowers' information is sacrosanct and a notary's duty is to keep it confidential. Even passing your information on to the borrower is stepping into muddy water; there would be no difference between this and attempting to sell an unrelated product/service to the borrower while at their home to conduct a signing.

Advertise yourself through accepted channels, and hope that dissatisfied potential borrowers will take you up on your services.

Reply by ZeeCA on 7/18/07 2:40pm
Msg #200585

Rach- see yr PM thx n/m

Reply by Charles_Ca on 7/18/07 2:49pm
Msg #200590

Rachel, please see my reply to Christi above! n/m