Posted by RickinVA on 6/9/07 7:51am
Msg #194328

Vent--Check Your P/M!

Many times I see a post asking for info on a particular SS/TC/Etc. That type of
question is perfect for this kind of venue, as it is one of the strengths here, but then I
notice the answer is by P/M. That makes no sense usually, because no one but the
questioner sees the answer. How about the using the private message function for, uhh,
private messages, not messages about what most people want to see, ie. "do they pay" or "what
should I do?" This is not a private forum. If I post a question, I think everyone should be privy to
the answer otherwise I would single out a particular person or group of people and ask them privately. Just my HO! What do YOU think?
Vent over!

Rick

Reply by Rickwoca on 6/9/07 8:45am
Msg #194329

I agree with you.
Rick

Reply by John_NorCal on 6/9/07 11:29am
Msg #194343

Rick - check your pm

Ha! Made ya look! I agree though.

Reply by cyndi_ca on 6/9/07 11:34am
Msg #194344

Completely agree! :-) n/m

Reply by dollyPA on 6/9/07 12:33pm
Msg #194350

I also agree Rick. I just received the perfect PM though and it had nothing to do with a question it had to do with some great advice on how to post in this forum and it also said I wish you lots of luck. That is what I thought this web site was about....

I had asked one question here the other day and had the response "well obviously your new and that IMHO." I thought this forum was for help??? I guess I was wrong... It seems to be a click...

Reply by BrendaTx on 6/9/07 1:18pm
Msg #194355

Re: Vent--Check Your P/M! - dollyPA - you mean me.

You refer to ** Maybe a PA notary will answer your request. However, in Texas, for instance, I could use the California jurat because it's reasonably compliant with the Texas jurat. Obviously you're a little new to this so you need to find out if that's okay in PA IMHO. **

That was my answer to you b/c you asked a very basic question about a jurat.

It was meant as a helpful answer. And, from that you determined there's a click [sic].
Okey dokey, then.

(What exactly would have rather read so that you would have been happy with the answer you got?)

Reply by dollyPA on 6/9/07 3:16pm
Msg #194368

Re: Vent--Check Your P/M! - dollyPA - you mean me.

WOW, I apologize to all for my rudeness and BrendaTx I was not referring to you...
Take care everyone... I will look else where for help in the future. I was not logging on the site for anything else but answers and if I could help someone. Obviously I should never have posted here to begin with.

Reply by CaliNotary on 6/9/07 6:50pm
Msg #194390

Dolly, you need to grow a pair

You're going to flee this site and never ask another question here because you got a slightly less than sugarcoated and handholding response? Are you that much of a wuss in every aspect of life?

Reply by dollyPA on 6/9/07 9:20pm
Msg #194396

Re: Dolly, you need to grow a pair

I was referring to the fact that this message board is for "Professional Notaries" and that I should seek my answers elsewhere. I have read other messages where Notary's ask a question and "Professional Notaries" like your self tell people that they should search the site before asking a question or the big one is "read your book". I can't speak for others that receive answers like that but I definitely did not come to this web site for a popularity contest, I came to learn. If becoming a "Professional Notary" makes me bitter then I will take the other advise I received early in this message and find another line of work. Thanks for hospitality!

Reply by Blueink_CA on 6/9/07 9:40pm
Msg #194398

Re: Dolly, don't take anything personally

consider yourself initiated to this board. If you have a question, ask. If you have something to contribute, than do it. When I first found this board, I posted and then, bang! I was quickly flamed by the best. Stick around, you will be glad you did.

Reply by TNhills on 6/10/07 1:44am
Msg #194413

Re: Dolly, you need to grow a pair

Dolly,

I completely understand how frustrated you are about asking a question and wanting an answer to a simple answer? I asked a simple question on a board one time and I got blasted from here to Africa about wanting to know about inspection business? Sometimes a person may not have time for research, and you just want the answer because you are so frustrated with the day to day routine of life. So, Yeah I understand how you feel about asking a simple question and wanting an answer. So, don't give up hang in there, it will get better. I promise, everyone here had to learn from somewhere's, on there own, in a class room, OJT, or not. If you don't get the question answered ask it another way and I assure you someone will answer it.

Reply by TNhills on 6/10/07 1:33am
Msg #194411

Re: Vent--Check Your P/M! - dollyPA - you mean me.

What do you want to know exactly? I'll try and help you find the answer. This forum IS for learning, venting, answering, helping, and assising. I enjoy this forum. I always find something useful here.

Reply by Laura Vestanen on 6/9/07 12:57pm
Msg #194353

Rick: check your pm. Not kidding. n/m

Reply by Ndwa on 6/9/07 1:35pm
Msg #194358

If it's private then keep it private...

There's no need to let the world know you're sending a PM to another person with a post "you've got PMs".

Reply by Lee/AR on 6/9/07 1:56pm
Msg #194360

Ndwa's got it right, imho. n/m

Reply by Frenchie/TN on 6/9/07 2:16pm
Msg #194363

Re: Ndwa's got it right, imho.

It's a "clique", french word. Click is what you do with your mouse. I know, we French spell funny!! - Good points about the p/m though. Otherwise this is a great board and I thank all who take time to answer help questions. I learn something every time I log on.

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 6/9/07 2:52pm
Msg #194366

Re: If it's private then keep it private...

"you've got PMs"

Boy, have never had PMS

Reply by Ever/CA on 6/10/07 1:39am
Msg #194412

Re: If it's private then keep it private...

IMHO, it's often (or maybe always) necessary to tell someone that they have a PM because you don't really know that you have one until you log in. I, for one, am guilty of not logging in regularly. I only do when I need to post something (like I just did now). So, if someone sends a PM and doesn't say so publicly, there's a big chance I'll miss it and read it when it's too late.

Regards,
Ever

Reply by Bob_Chicago on 6/9/07 3:36pm
Msg #194369

PMs do have their place. If you want to tell someone about

something that they might be wrong about, and do not wish to
embarrass them, or be considered a basher, then a PM is the way to go.
Also if someone asks about for an opionion about a particular
company, and if I do work for them , and think that they are
great, I might not wish to share that info with my local competitlion.
I would be willing to give the info to someone in a different state,
however.
Works the other way too, if you have had a problem with a co, and
do not wish to let them know that you are bad mouthing them, then
use a PM

Reply by Blueink_CA on 6/9/07 3:43pm
Msg #194371

Re: PMs do have their place. If you want to tell someone about

I have responded thru pm's with a SS's personal information - (cell #, address) I don't think this type of info should be blasted over the net for anyone to see. JMO

Reply by JanetK_CA on 6/9/07 4:39pm
Msg #194376

Let me get this straight......

"I might not wish to share that info with my local competitlion.
I would be willing to give the info to someone in a different state,
however."

So if someone who IS your local competition has a question about a company (that may be one of your good clients) that I can answer, I should do so in a PM, so that no one else gets it - including you? (Not that YOU need my help...) Same thing for other people who might be competition for some of the other long-time contributors who give of themselves on a regular basis on this board? And you'll do the same for my competitors because they're not *your* local competition? In other words, if we're going to provide specific client info to someone, it should only be to some one *else's* competition, and it should be done privately, so that they don't know you've done it...

Hmmmm.... Why does something about this not feel right to me? Can anyone help me with this????

[Sorry to pick on you, Bob, but this has long been an issue that has tweaked my sense of fairness for some reason, and you gave me the perfect opening to go after it! ;>]

Reply by CaliNotary on 6/9/07 7:02pm
Msg #194392

I actually agree with Bob here

I don't think it's unreasonable not to want to post a public message on this board saying "XXX is an awesome company to work for, they pay way more than other companies and I have my check within a week". Do I mind sharing that with somebody in another state? No. Do I mind sharing it with someone who lives 20 miles from me? Yes.

And it's not unreasonable for us to be more concerned about our own competition than we are about everyone else on the board's competition. I don't know who else does or doesn't work for XXX, I only know that I do.

Reply by JanetK_CA on 6/10/07 1:08am
Msg #194409

Re: I actually agree with Bob here

Well, to be honest, I don't really disagree with anything you've said. I just find it ironic, that while a person wouldn't want to give certain valuable info to their own local competition, they would be willing to give it to some one they don't know who is new to the board, even though that person could be in the back yard of someone else who has been a long-time member and contributor to this forum. It's an angle I just don't believe we think about much.

Of course, it's human nature for us to be concerned about our own competition and I have no quarrel with that. But if Bob inadvertently gave info re: your best client to someone who lives on the next block from you, you might not be too thrilled about that either. Better to use a little discretion than none (like the PM vs. a forum post), but we should just realize that when giving out that kind of info, even though it may not affect us directly, someone somewhere is likely to be affected. And it works both ways.

I'm just saying that the example of the kind of information you mentioned is info that, in this market, we should think twice about giving out. If I share that kind of info (and I do), it's going to be with people who I respect, who have been contributors in the past and perhaps who I have learned from, not some totally unknown party who just happens to ask. Answering other questions is a different story because everyone could potentially benefit. I'm talking strictly about client info.

Geez, I didn't mean to get this carried away. It's not really that big of a deal - unless, I guess, someone loses a good client to a forum newbie who underbid them and got the contact info from one of their own "board buddies" who happens to live somewhere else.... ;>

Reply by Veronica Benitez on 6/9/07 4:04pm
Msg #194372

Oh my gosh!!! I thought it was a bit rude too, but figured that the people doing that had a good reason. I get that people want to send personal messages, it just seems to me that they could do it without letting everyone else know.

Reply by RickinVA on 6/10/07 9:06am
Msg #194430

Re: Vent I've Got the answer!!

OK, I get it now. Everyone can ask a question about a company, then everyone else can P/M the answer, so no one gives anything away to the competition. Of course, under this system, ONLY the asker gets the answer. Of course, the asker might get 44 P/Ms with a different answer, but NO ONE will every get flamed publicly, just by P/M. Great! )=|
Actually, I do get it, but I think the educational value of the board is reduced with this 'system'.

Rick