Posted by LawrenceOK on 3/3/07 9:35am
Msg #178067

E-mail link in profile

I just updated my profile and noticed that the link to my e-mail says "please try again during normal business hours" Clicked on some other profiles and it says the same???

Reply by PAW on 3/3/07 9:43am
Msg #178068

Just looked at your profile and it shows your email address. The "properties" display as "mailto:[e-mail address]" and clicking on it brings up my mail program, addressed to you.

Reply by LawrenceOK on 3/3/07 9:47am
Msg #178070

Darned if I know?? I just clicked on both of our profiles and it still shows the message.

Reply by Korey Humphreys on 3/3/07 9:49am
Msg #178073

Its says it now. I thought it was after 5PM

because that is when I would notice it.

Reply by LawrenceOK on 3/3/07 9:51am
Msg #178075

Re: Its says it now. I thought it was after 5PM

I guess it's just one of those things that make ya go Hmmmm, where you been hiding Korey?

Reply by PAW on 3/3/07 9:51am
Msg #178074

Sounds like you may have a hijacker in your system that is taking over the "mailto" linking to your email program. Look at some website that has links to email. (You can look at mine and click on the "webmaster" link.)

Reply by Korey Humphreys on 3/3/07 9:48am
Msg #178071

After a certain hour in the day (I believe it is 5:00 PM) our email addresses read "please try again during normal business hours". Why? I haven't a clue.

Right now we can view email addresses. Check back after 5 PM and you won't be able to.

Reply by PAW on 3/3/07 9:53am
Msg #178076

Huh? When did that start? I don't remember ever seeing that message, no matter what time of day or night it was.

Reply by Korey Humphreys on 3/3/07 9:55am
Msg #178077

It's something I've noticed around the same time frame everyday. However I am wrong because each profile now reads, "please check back during normal business hours". M-F is when I noticed the 5 o'clock "incident".

Reply by LawrenceOK on 3/3/07 9:55am
Msg #178078

Re: E-mail link in profile... Paw,

I just did as you suggested and it brought my email page.

Reply by Pierces Notary Services on 3/3/07 9:57am
Msg #178079

Re: E-mail link in profile... Paw,

it does that when I'm not logged in. If you log in it shows the email address.

Reply by Korey Humphreys on 3/3/07 10:01am
Msg #178080

Hhhmm...

I've been signed in, and I keep seeing that message. I log out and the message is still there.

Reply by Lee/AR on 3/3/07 10:17am
Msg #178085

Ditto Korey. Logged in or out, get "Check back during etc."

Work around: put addy in your profile.

Reply by Dennis D Broadbooks on 3/3/07 11:17am
Msg #178104

Dittos Here!

If I'm logged in I can see my e-mail address when viewing my profile, but if I'm NOT logged in it shows "Please try back during normal business hours".

Reply by PAW on 3/3/07 11:26am
Msg #178108

Re: Dittos Here! And me too!

So it's not XP nor IE7 as I am now getting the same error message (once I changed to a different IP address to allow me to view profiles). Apparently, it is something that Harry has configured into the page and only he can fix. So, I'm not going to worry about it any more. I'll modify my profile to show the email address for those who can view my profile but see the "... try later ..." message.

Reply by PAW on 3/3/07 10:01am
Msg #178081

Weird ...

Just to satisify my curiosity, can you take a screen print of it and email it to me. Use "PAWnotary [at] gmail [dot] com".

Reply by PAW on 3/3/07 10:10am
Msg #178084

Getting weirder and weirder ...

I used a different computer and when I click to view a profile, I get a message that says "You have exceeded the maximum number of daily profiles you are allowed to view without logging in". Funny thing is, this is the FIRST profile I tried to look at.

Reply by PAW on 3/3/07 10:22am
Msg #178086

Thanks, Korey.

Now, of course, there has to be a common reason (not necessarily a logical one) as to why some users will see it and others don't.

For example, what OS and browser is everyone using that sees the problem?

What OS and browser is everyone using that doesn't see the problem.
- I don't see it using Widnows 2000 SP4 and Firefox 2 nor with IE 6.

Reply by LawrenceOK on 3/3/07 10:24am
Msg #178087

Re: Thanks, Korey. Windows XP sp/2 IE 7 n/m

Reply by Korey Humphreys on 3/3/07 10:26am
Msg #178088

Same at Lawrence = Windows XP sp/2 IE 7 n/m

Reply by Korey Humphreys on 3/3/07 10:26am
Msg #178089

err typos! >:| n/m

Reply by Lee/AR on 3/3/07 10:30am
Msg #178090

Me, too: Windows XP sp/2 IE 7 n/m

Reply by Pierces Notary Services on 3/3/07 10:44am
Msg #178095

Re: Weird ...

I'm using XP

Reply by ZeeCA on 3/3/07 10:42am
Msg #178093

At first I thought it had something to do w/ premier memb vs

not but if PAW is having probs on another computer...........?

Reply by LawrenceOK on 3/3/07 10:49am
Msg #178096

It's the Gremlins I tell ya!!

They invaded my printer yesterday, kept jamming my paper feeder the dirty little rascals.

Reply by PAW on 3/3/07 10:55am
Msg #178098

May be XP and/or IE7 related ...

I'm not having any problems. But Larry and Korey are. It appears that the page may be built (logic within the page design) specifically for XP/IE7 to show that statement.

Anybody not using XP/IE7 have the same issue?

Reply by PAW on 3/3/07 10:58am
Msg #178099

Re: Maybe not IE7 related ...

As it seems to happen with Firefox on XP.

Reply by ZeeCA on 3/3/07 10:59am
Msg #178101

NOT XP but use IE7 ... n/m

Reply by PAW on 3/3/07 11:01am
Msg #178102

Re: NOT XP but use IE7 ... are you having the problem? n/m

Reply by ZeeCA on 3/3/07 11:03am
Msg #178103

Yep for days I have seen this phenom n/m

Reply by LawrenceOK on 3/3/07 11:25am
Msg #178107

Re: Yep for days I have seen this phenom ..Oh well,

I guess Harry will fix it when he gets the time. Not many folks email me requests anyway.

Reply by BrendaTx on 3/3/07 11:47am
Msg #178110

Been seeing this awhile. Just a guess but...

I'll betcha that Harry is trying to cut back on the creeps who have gone to profile after profile sucking off our emails so they could market to us. NR has been used and abused by a certain signing service related coffee shop and cafeteria...so I have been told by two of the major users of the cafeteria offerings. It's just so wrong--I have lost a lot of respect for the participants in that endeavor based on what I have heard from insiders.

Remember "Nancy Notary?" Well, I think this is an attempt to put a stop to databases like hers and the cafeteria from capitalizing on what NR's owners have been able to create.

Am I talking in code? Kinda...I just don't have the time or the inclination to smooth the ruffled feathers of those I am talking about or to listen to their justifications. Either you know what I mean, or you don't.

Reply by BrendaTx on 3/3/07 11:49am
Msg #178111

Re: Been seeing this awhile. Just a guess but...

One more thing...the PM feature came on right before this started. We can talk to each other that way or through the forum...but NR detractors cannot snatch our emails.

Good for you, Harry. Protect your real estate.

Reply by PAW on 3/3/07 12:01pm
Msg #178113

Re: Been seeing this awhile. Just a guess but...

I disagree that it is for the better. Granted, it is protecting our information from being stolen, but it is also inhibiting justifiable searches from being completed. I can't tell you how many times I'm told "I found your name on Notary Rotary", but I can tell you that hiding an email address from legitimate organizations to protect it from a sleazy few is just a bit over the top, in my book. Having information lifted is an expected hazard.

I think a better way to do would be to hide the address context. In other words, the email address itself would appear only as link (such as "Send email to agent" or display as a graphics image. We are looking into that option for the redesigned website that I'm working on right now.

Reply by BrendaTx on 3/3/07 12:05pm
Msg #178114

Paul et al regarding hidden emails...

Just remember that my comments were a guess and totally based on a theory. NR has certainly not given me any insight on this.

Reply by ZeeCA on 3/3/07 12:09pm
Msg #178116

noticed it when PM started and also thought it was instead ? n/m

Reply by MikeC/NY on 3/3/07 12:23pm
Msg #178117

Re: Been seeing this awhile. Just a guess but...

It has nothing to do with OS or browser - this is server-side smoke and mirrors. The profile page is being created dynamically when you select a profile to view; if you look at the page source, you'll see that the message is actually hardcoded there. When you don't see that message, you'll find the email address hardcoded in the HTML, along with a mailto link. There are other differences between the two HTML versions, so there are at least two scripts that create the page; there's logic somewhere on their side that is determining which version to use.

Reply by PAW on 3/3/07 12:41pm
Msg #178121

Re: Been seeing this awhile. Just a guess but...

I knew the page was being created dynamically. That's why I thought the trigger may be the OS or browser level since that is easy to check and then create a page based on the result. Obviously, it is not based on either. Not sure how Harry has it programmed since we truly cannot see the actual source but the generated resulting source.

Reply by SueW/Tn on 3/3/07 12:45pm
Msg #178122

Using XP/IE7

If I'm logged in I can see the addy's, if not...error message.

Reply by ZeeCA on 3/3/07 1:58pm
Msg #178129

eithter way I see error messages now n/m

Reply by MikeC/NY on 3/3/07 2:30pm
Msg #178136

Re: Been seeing this awhile. Just a guess but...

I used to do some of this type of programming for a living in another life... I obviously don't know all the details in this case, but I have a pretty good idea of what they're doing and how.

It's actually a good way to stop email address harvesting, depending on how detailed their logs are.

Reply by Dennis D Broadbooks on 3/3/07 4:51pm
Msg #178168

This Seems Like a Strange Message...

...to leave in the place of an e-mail address. If nothing else it should state why you can't see the e-mail address & where to go to find it (including logging in if that's what it takes).

Reply by MikeC/NY on 3/3/07 10:19pm
Msg #178210

I agree, but...

... this is the way they're doing it right now. I assume the webgods are monitoring this discussion and furiously taking notes; perhaps they'll tweak this feature to make it a little more user friendly.

Reply by BrendaTx on 3/3/07 2:18pm
Msg #178135

Lawrence - check your PM and your email. n/m

Reply by jojo_MN on 3/4/07 10:42am
Msg #178232

When I clicked on your profile link, it says " Please check back during regular business hours". When I logged in, it just gives your e-mail address. My thoughts is that Harry is protecting us against spammers. I have a lot of spam that pretend to be financial businesses in my business e-mail account. If a lender, title company truly needs to get in touch with us, they can dial the phone numbers listed. I personally like the fact that the e-mails are being covered. If only members can have access, there is less likely chance we will get spam. I personally would never SPAM my notrot friends!