Posted by Lake/NWI on 3/18/07 7:56am
Msg #180436

FOIL SEALS - GOLD, SILVER

Is it okay to emboss these on LOAN docs? YES or NO. Thank you.

Reply by Les_CO on 3/18/07 8:49am
Msg #180441

As you said in most cases to do this you will need an 'emosser' type stamp. Most lenders will reject embossed notary seals. (some States excepted)
My advise is to only do this if you charge an extra $100.00 per foil embossed seal.

Reply by Lee/AR on 3/18/07 9:22am
Msg #180442

They are pretty. They are impressive. They are a PITA for the county recording office and embossers generally are going the way of the buggy whip. Don't do this on loan docs as you will not endear yourself to anyone. Use the rubber stamp. Only possible exception is when you are 'embossing' 2 or more docs that belong together...and even that can be overcome by referencing the Cert. to the document. Only use I've found for my old one is it cracks almonds pretty well.

Reply by BrendaTx on 3/18/07 10:00am
Msg #180447

Foil seals...

don't copy well on a copier. They leave a big black blot on scanned documents or copied documents such as reproduced in the lending industry.

Reply by MrEd_Ca on 3/18/07 11:36am
Msg #180460

Re: Foil seals...a question....

.....what is the purpose (or point?) of embossing with these foill seals? I have, on occasion, had this question put to me &, so far, had no answer. Does anyone know? TIA

Reply by BrendaTx on 3/18/07 11:43am
Msg #180463

Re: Foil seals...a question....a guess at the answer...

They're pretty?

The look nice and official to the signer?

They are a formality of the past which doesn't really work for the present in most cases?

Reply by Dennis D Broadbooks on 3/18/07 12:32pm
Msg #180469

I Still Use My Embossing Seal...

...(sans the foil) to tie two separate documents together. If the signature being notarized is on one page & the Notary certificate is on a separate page, I put the two together & apply the embossing seal to both simultaneously. That's the ONLY time anymore when I find an embossing seal can be put to practical use in my day to day Notary activities.

BTW Brenda...there's a couple who usually sit behind our family at church on Sunday mornings & as they sat down today I said: "Gig 'em, Aggies!". They're both Texas A&M grads & their daughter is a freshman on the Aggie track/cross country team. I made them both promise to root for KU this afternoon (4PM CST) against Kentucky. Same goes for you!

Reply by BrendaTx on 3/18/07 1:10pm
Msg #180481

Re: I Still Use My Embossing Seal...

**Same goes for you!**

Done! I'll tune in intermittently during my spring cleaning attack.

Reply by BrendaTx on 3/19/07 5:19am
Msg #180535

Re: I Still Use My Embossing Seal...Dennis

Congrats on the win over Kentucky!

Reply by Dennis D Broadbooks on 3/19/07 6:34am
Msg #180544

Yee Hawwww! n/m

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 3/18/07 12:45pm
Msg #180473

Re: Foil seals...a question....

They are nice on a marriage certificate for those states that allow notaries to perform weddings.

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 3/18/07 12:45pm
Msg #180474

Re: Foil seals...a question....

They are nice on a marriage certificate for those states that allow notaries to perform weddings.

Reply by Gerry_VT on 3/18/07 1:13pm
Msg #180482

Re: Foil seals...a question....

In one respect, most notarized multi-page documents are a security joke, because the pages are stapled together (if that). So it would be easy to remove a page, change it to terms more favorable to the forger, and staple the document back together. To overcome this problem, one can punch a hole in the upper left corner of all the pages, run a ribbon through the whole, put the loose ends of the ribbon under the foil, and emboss it.

This is the procedure used by the United States Patent Office when they issue official copies of patents (I've seen this myself). I've read that when they receive foreign patents as evidence in their cases, they require that the foreign patents be embossed in this fashion.

Some legal stationery stores sell the ribbon under the name "will ribbon", but I don't know how common it is to use it for wills.

Reply by Stoli on 3/18/07 7:33pm
Msg #180517

Gerry, that is the coolest bit of information! Thanks n/m

Reply by ewing2surf on 3/18/07 11:56am
Msg #180466

With regard to loan docs about as useless as windshild wipers on a cows ass. But for documents heading out of the country, a nice professional touch... provided you also rubber stamp your seal next to your signature.

Reply by Calnotary on 3/18/07 12:51pm
Msg #180476

where can you buy them? I always wanted to get some...

Of course not to use them on Loan docs but some other documents that traditional people like with a gold seal.

Thank you.

Reply by Susan Fischer on 3/18/07 12:56pm
Msg #180478

Stationery stores. They come in packets of 25 or so. Also

Staples? Haven't shopped for them in a while, did Avery make them??

Reply by ewing2surf on 3/18/07 1:14pm
Msg #180483

Re: where can you buy them? I always wanted to get some...

The XYZ sells 72 gold seals for $8 to non-members. Or you can go here and get a box of 300 for $13.35: http://www.nextag.com/gold-foil-seals/search-html

Reply by Susan Fischer on 3/18/07 1:22pm
Msg #180486

<laughter> Boy, I haven't looked for them in a looong time. n/m

Reply by John_NorCal on 3/18/07 2:33pm
Msg #180498

Re:What? Windshield wipers for.........(ahem....) n/m

Reply by BarbaraL_CA on 3/18/07 8:38pm
Msg #180521

Re: where can you buy them? I always wanted to get some...

I got mine at Office Depot.

Reply by Lake/NWI on 3/19/07 1:12am
Msg #180528

Re: Thanks for your replies, esp. Gerri!

But why has NOBODY ever taught us these tactics (per Gerri's reply)????

Reply by Gerry_VT on 3/19/07 8:28am
Msg #180554

Ribbon and real estate docs don't mix

Unfortunately, putting a ribbon through real estate docs and using a foil on the loose ends would not be compatible with the recording process, which has to separate the sheets to feed them through the copier or scanner. So please don't read what I posted as a suggestion to do this to real estate docs.