Posted by Demore on 11/16/07 11:27am
Msg #221626
Hints & Tips
Hints & Tips: Properly Advise Signers Of Your Function
By Phillip W. Browne
[e-mail address]
NSA Now: Issue #96 — November 2007
While Most Notary Signing Agents perform their duties professionally and responsibly, some Signing Agents — either unknowingly or deliberately — step over the line into the unauthorized practice of law and face severe penalties. No matter how much a signer begs or pleads, NSAs cannot explain the contents of a document or tell a borrower if the interest rate is too high, the terms of the loan are questionable, the closing costs are excessive, or offer any other interpretation of the package.
That’s why the NNA recommends that Signing Agents present the signer or signers with a copy of the “Notary Signing Agent Pledge of Ethical Practice” at the beginning of each assignment. This pledge, which all Notary Signing Agent Section Members can download and print by logging into the member community at NationalNotary.org, says:
“I am not an attorney and therefore, by law, I cannot explain or interpret the contents of any document for you, instruct you on how to complete a document or direct you on the advisability of signing a particular document. By doing so I would be engaging in the unauthorized practice of law, and could face legal penalties that include the possibility of incarceration. Any important questions about your document should be addressed to the lender, title company or an attorney.”
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Reply by Dennis D Broadbooks on 11/16/07 11:32am
Msg #221627
Are You Trying to Make a Point...
...with your continual reference of the NNA, Demore? If so would you just explain it to us in your own words. If I want to read the latest NNA propaganda I can find my way to their web site on my own.
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Reply by DellaCa on 11/16/07 11:46am
Msg #221631
Re: Are You Trying to Make a Point...
I would think by your post you are a big fan of NNA, this is information most of us already know without going to the NNA.
I am guessing you are trying to help, but most here are not big fans as you appear to be,but thanks for effort.
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Reply by Demore on 11/16/07 1:14pm
Msg #221659
Re: Are You Trying to Make a Point...
Thank you for your response.
I would like to add that your statement is not true! How can you assume such thing? I am not a fan of NNA. I am a person who enjoy to read and share information without plan to attack anybody inteligence. If, for any reason you feel offended about NNA information, I am very sorry that you did like or read this information.
It was a friendly intention. This is all about communicating . . .
Demore
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Reply by Charles_Ca on 11/16/07 1:21pm
Msg #221665
Cutting and Pasting is NOT communicating! n/m
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Reply by DellaCa on 11/16/07 11:46am
Msg #221632
Re: Are You Trying to Make a Point...
I would think by your post you are a big fan of NNA, this is information most of us already know without going to the NNA.
I am guessing you are trying to help, but most here are not big fans as you appear to be,but thanks for effort.
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Reply by PA_Notary_II on 11/16/07 12:25pm
Msg #221644
Demore I hear about the NNA...
Deless I respect them.
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Reply by Charles_Ca on 11/16/07 1:22pm
Msg #221666
Re: Demore I hear about the NNA...Love it!!!! LOL n/m
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Reply by Demore on 11/16/07 2:00pm
Msg #221685
Re: Demore I hear about the NNA...
Oh! Goooooooooooooooood. I did not offend you. I am realy surprised by the response of the board that I offend many without intend to. I realy do not understand what is the matter for such reaction!!!
Demore
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Reply by Demore on 11/16/07 1:02pm
Msg #221654
Abosolutely NOT!
Sorry! I did not intend to offend anybody. I intend to friendly. I am new on this site and try to be familiar with what it is all about. Sharing notarial information and discuss about it without offend nobody.
I enjoy learn from notary hints . . .
Life is good! in Italiano is the same as La Vita E'Bella!
Have a good day!
Demore
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Reply by Sylvia_FL on 11/16/07 1:07pm
Msg #221656
Re: Absolutely NOT!
Denmore
First - welcome to this forum. It is nice to welcome new members.
Please read the messages on the board, there is a wealth of information on here.
Know that the majority of the board are opposed to the NNA.
You will learn more from the posts on this board than you ever will from the NNA.
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Reply by Demore on 11/16/07 1:22pm
Msg #221667
Re: Absolutely NOT!
Thanks!
I appreciated you are WELCOME me to this board. I see and realize that NNA is not accepted in here. I did pick up on this very quickly.
It is true, I have read some posts and see that it has great information shared from this board. I will make sure that NNA post won't be mentined anymore from me. I very sorry that I am new on this and try to communicate without realize it has offended someone.
Demore
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Reply by Demore on 11/16/07 1:22pm
Msg #221668
Re: Absolutely NOT!
Thanks!
I appreciated you are WELCOME me to this board. I see and realize that NNA is not accepted in here. I did pick up on this very quickly.
It is true, I have read some posts and see that it has great information shared from this board. I will make sure that NNA post won't be mentined anymore from me. I very sorry that I am new on this and try to communicate without realize it has offended someone.
Demore
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Reply by Charles_Ca on 11/16/07 1:26pm
Msg #221670
Re: Absolutely NOT! Welcome also but it is usually a good
idea to spend a little time reading and learning about a community before making comments. So what part of Italy are you from? Italy is one of my favoriet countries, I've listed real estate in the Firenze area including a gorgeous villa in Scarperia.
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Reply by Demore on 11/16/07 1:32pm
Msg #221675
Re: Absolutely NOT! Welcome also but it is usually a good
My uncestors are Italiano and Portugues and am widow of an American/German. This is the reason why I know Italiano/Portugues and off course English that sometimes can be enjoyable to know some terms for entertainment.
Demore
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Reply by BrendaTx on 11/16/07 1:56pm
Msg #221682
Great...now that we know you are ESL we can better under-
stand you!
 Welcome.
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Reply by Demore on 11/16/07 2:03pm
Msg #221690
Re: Great...now that we know you are ESL we can better under-
Oh! goooooooooooooooood. This helps to feel better. I do not like to hurt people's feelings. It is the same if someone hurts me.
Demore
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Reply by Dennis D Broadbooks on 11/16/07 1:25pm
Msg #221669
I Apologize...
...if I came across too strong, as it's become very apparent your actions were well intended. As others have mentioned, the NNA is not well received by a great number of posters on this board. Welcome to the rough & tumble world of the NotRot message board!
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Reply by Sylvia_FL on 11/16/07 11:56am
Msg #221635
"That’s why the NNA recommends that Signing Agents present the signer or signers with a copy of the “Notary Signing Agent Pledge of Ethical Practice” at the beginning of each assignment"
You are serious???????
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Reply by BrendaTx on 11/16/07 12:53pm
Msg #221651
Re: Hints & Tips - I got an accidental pm from Demore
yesterday and I think what she is trying to do is just offer ideas to the board...not sure, but that's what I think.
By her own admission in her pm to me she's not familiar with the board and perhaps is a little over the top by offering NNA propaganda...which she may be new to also and not realize that many of those here don't necessarily love the NNA.
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Reply by Demore on 11/16/07 1:59pm
Msg #221684
Re: Hints & Tips - I got an accidental pm from Demore
Thank you for your reply.
I would like to clear this matter on NNA's propaganda. I am not intend to work for free for NNA. I did not have any idea this would be a NO! NO! IN HERE. I have expressed my appology many times by replying to others response to this issue.
The suggestion that I should learn more before post anything is accepted sugesstion. I won't hurt your feelings anymore. Sorry!
Demore
Demore
Demore
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Reply by Demore on 11/16/07 1:26pm
Msg #221671
Oooops! I did realize now that it is serious issue. . . I am learning and be sensitive to pick up the matter bothering all notaries from all the states.
Demore
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Reply by rengel/CA on 11/16/07 3:02pm
Msg #221697
I just get tired
of newbies coming in and trying to "educate" me on things I've known for years. Unless it is something that is truly new and innovative, we've all seen it, know it or have been doing it for ages.
Just because it is new to you, doesn't mean it's news.
I applaud your tenacity though, you will go far.
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Reply by Demore on 11/16/07 3:12pm
Msg #221701
Re: I just get tired
Sorry!
It is interesting to know the level of TOLERANCE that some people are enduring nowdays. It becomes kind of worries me very much this new type of agressive behavior. This can be discribed as stress and/or burn out!
It makes me sad to know that some people does not 'know how' to offer understand to others.
Demore
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Reply by Charles_Ca on 11/16/07 3:36pm
Msg #221705
This is not intended as bashing but you need to read the
guidelines. Welcome to the Notary Talk General Discussion Forum. Before posting, please read the Rules and Guidelines. It says so at the top of the page. It is quite obvious that you did not read the rules and guidelines before posting. There is a search button at the top of the page where you have the ability to search what was said before. This site was not established to either provide help getting into to the business nor as a support group for newbies. This site primarily consists of experienced notaries and they are not the ones who do not know hod to offer understanding to others. Understanding is not one of the guidelines of this site. It is not professionalism when you post without having an idea of the culture on the site you are also opening yourself up to be told otherwise and that is what happened. Most of the notaries on this site are the most understanding, open, friendly and kind people around. I don't believe it is too much to ask someone new to at least find out what the site is about before they try to impose their own standards on it.
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Reply by rengel/CA on 11/16/07 5:19pm
Msg #221721
Where is the aggression in my post? n/m
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Reply by JanetK_CA on 11/16/07 8:47pm
Msg #221765
Re: I just get tired
Demore, I think the reaction would have been much different if you had just posted to introduce yourself. But your very first posts on this board, although well meaning, were offering information as if it would be something that we didn't already know. If you had come here as a new person wanting to learn, instead of presuming to teach the experts (many, but not all who post here), no one would have been "offended" or upset with you -- unless you went to the other extreme and expected others to teach you everything. That is what usually happens here and I guess we should appreciate the fact that you did not do that!
Now that you know how many of us feel about the NNA, we can go forward. As others have probably suggested, it would be a great idea to go back and read the tons of information that has been previously posted here. The orange search button at the top is also a very valuable tool. Best of luck. We all need it in this market!!
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Reply by CTS10866 on 11/16/07 6:08pm
Msg #221735
Hi D. I found this thread to be a very interesting read. Wishing you well. Regards, C.
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