Posted by miracle/CT on 11/14/07 4:23pm
Msg #221222

NNA Certification(clarification for Becca/fl

I am a certified signing agent with the NNA. It's a pitty that you become a member in a site like this only to be bully by a unprofessional, unethical person like you. First NNA doesn't claim to garanteed any assignments just because you are Certified . What they do state is that it increases the chance to be hired for assignment. Now NNA didn't gave a certificate , I studied and earned it. Perhaps you're spending to much time Knocking companies and other fellow notaries and you should spend more time learning the facts and just maybe that would prevent you from a termination of contracts.

Reply by miracle/CT on 11/14/07 4:33pm
Msg #221228

At this time we have deactivated your account because you have chosen to misrepresent our organization online. iMortgage Services has an impeccable reputation which has been upheld through our services and partnerships for over 7+ years. Your efforts to sabotage our name without proper understanding and the misuse and misrepresentation of trade, business, and confidential information is in violation of the vendor partner and confidentiality agreement that you signed and submitted on 9/4/07. Thank you for your time.

Shame, shame, shame....see what happens when you don't know the facts?

Reply by Charles_Ca on 11/14/07 4:36pm
Msg #221230

ATTENTION! Two different people wrote these posts, what

is going on, they both used the same name, its obvious that the first poster was not a native English speaker.

Reply by MikeC/NY on 11/14/07 4:44pm
Msg #221236

I think she just cut and paste that second message

from an earlier one.

Reply by Becca_FL on 11/14/07 4:39pm
Msg #221232

Aparently, Miracle, you did not read all the posts that

make it very clear to understand that iMS did NOT perform according to the contract they furnished me and I signed. In case you don't know, Kevin/CT is an attorney and has agreed with my position. I doubt that this makes any difference to you, though. You seem to be the type of person that sees what they want to in a post and doesn't take in the full meaning. Shame.

Reply by Milagros Gonzalez on 11/14/07 4:49pm
Msg #221239

Re: Aparently, Miracle, you did not read all the posts that

I read everything you wrote and all I'm saying is that you need to be a little more professional and stop generalizing just because one notary didn't bother to learn his/her duties that doesn't mean that all notaries are the same and while you are at it learn the facts about how it is that NNA Certifies a Notary before you start posting comments about Certified agents and the NNA.

Your comments and marks regarding NNA Certified agents are being reported to Notary Rotary, because as far as I'm concerned it is against terms and regulations to make comments about other companies and notary without substantial evidence to back it up.

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 11/14/07 4:55pm
Msg #221242

Re: Aparently, Miracle, you did not read all the posts that

"Your comments and marks regarding NNA Certified agents are being reported to Notary Rotary"

Then you are going to have to report a heck of a lot of members here.
As a signing service I do not hold any confidence in an NNA certified signing agent! The NNA signingagent.com is the last place I look for a signing agent to handle my signings.
I only hire "Qualified" signing agents.

I agree that not all NNA certified signing agents are incompetent to handle signings, but their competence is in spite of the NNA certification not because of it.
Over the years I have seen too many NNA certified signing agents posting here asking basic notary questions as well as asking questions they should know the answers to if they had any real "training"

Reply by miracle/CT on 11/14/07 4:59pm
Msg #221246

Re: Aparently, Miracle, you did not read all the posts that

Sylvia that is your opinion and you are entitle to it.
and yes it is being report because it has no justification to bully certified agent for the mistake of another. If you don't want to hire certified agent it totally up to you, however it doesn't speak for the rest of the world.
>End of discussion<

Reply by MistarellaFL on 11/14/07 5:02pm
Msg #221248

>End of discussion< ????????????

She must think she runs something besides her mouth :0

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 11/14/07 5:03pm
Msg #221249

Re: Apparently, Miracle, you did not read all the posts that

Oh good goody gumdrop! Miracle is going to report me to Harry for "bullying"

As I said I only hire qualified signing agents. Those who have a proven track record.

Reply by Charles_Ca on 11/14/07 5:11pm
Msg #221255

I don't know, you've gotten pretty mean lately Sylvia LOL! n/m

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 11/14/07 5:46pm
Msg #221273

Re: I don't know, you've gotten pretty mean lately Sylvia LOL!

I know Some people just bring out the beast in me - what can I say LOL

Reply by Charles_Ca on 11/14/07 5:10pm
Msg #221254

As a Loan originator and a REALTOR I also refuse to use NNA

so-called certified NSA, what are they agents of any way?

Reply by MistarellaFL on 11/14/07 5:00pm
Msg #221247

Hear, hear, Sylvia!

Qualified vs. Certified Signing Agents!

I am still waiting on the NNA to answer my signing agent certification questions from 2004, but I am not holding my breath.

I don't think much of that organization, either, Miracle, and many of the experienced NSA's don't either. I know title companies don't...they complain about the quality of their certification routinely!

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 11/14/07 5:45pm
Msg #221272

Re: Hear, hear, Sylvia!

Be careful Mistarella, Miracle will report you to Harry for badmouthing the NNA

Reply by MistarellaFL on 11/14/07 5:55pm
Msg #221280

Re: Hear, hear, Sylvia!

Oh, I am soooo scared! We know how much Harry looooves the NNA
(which stands for: Not Necessarily Accurate)

Reply by Becca_FL on 11/14/07 5:08pm
Msg #221253

Boy oh boy, Mila, you are one card carring NNA newbot

I am fully aware of the NNAs CNSA curriculum. I actually purchased a copy of the book way back when from Charles/CA just because I wanted to see for myself why the NNA was turning out CNSAs that ask questions like "where do I put my stamp."

Now, go away you little troll.

Reply by MistarellaFL on 11/14/07 5:14pm
Msg #221257

newbot...now that is a concise definition!

Can we ultimately thank Austin Powers for that?

Reply by Milagros Gonzalez on 11/14/07 5:17pm
Msg #221259

Re: Boy oh boy, Mila, you are one card carring NNA newbot

I am fully aware of the NNAs CNSA curriculum. I actually purchased a copy of the book way back when from Charles/CA just because I wanted to see for myself why the NNA was turning out CNSAs that ask questions like "where do I put my stamp."

Now, go away you little troll. <<<<Little troll?
There you go again. Like I said you are so Ghetto, unprofessional and you know what else.....................? Click! You've just been completely closed from futher discussion.

Reply by Becca_FL on 11/14/07 5:28pm
Msg #221263

Mila, please edjumacate yourself on forum terms and slang

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

”The Rudeness that you perceive is in direct proportion to the irritation you create!"

Reply by Milagros Gonzalez on 11/14/07 5:55pm
Msg #221279

Re: Mila, please edjumacate yourself on forum terms and slang

edjumacate???? What the????????
You are a classic morron.
did you mean EDUCATE?
yeah ok.

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 11/14/07 5:33pm
Msg #221266

Re: Boy oh boy, Mila, you are one card carring NNA newbot

" You've just been completely closed from futher discussion"

Really? you have the power to close someone out of this discussion??

Wow! We are all quaking in our shoes!!

Reply by Milagros Gonzalez on 11/14/07 5:51pm
Msg #221276

Re: Boy oh boy, Mila, you are one card carring NNA newbot

Sylvia go back to the rock you crawled under.

Reply by Becca_FL on 11/14/07 5:57pm
Msg #221282

That's it Mila! NOBODY disses Sylvia here and gets away w/it

You have just offended 99% of the members on this board...you ungrateful, uneducated, uninformed piece of newbot trash!

Reply by Milagros Gonzalez on 11/14/07 6:07pm
Msg #221285

Re: That's it Mila! NOBODY disses Sylvia here and gets away w/it

You have just offended 99% of the members on this board...you ungrateful, uneducated, uninformed piece of newbot trash!< reported to NR

Reply by Charles_Ca on 11/14/07 6:57pm
Msg #221299

For what? Stating a fact? You've got to be kidding! n/m

Reply by KBLedgard_CA on 11/14/07 11:16pm
Msg #221349

Re: That's it Mila! NOBODY disses Sylvia here and gets away w/it

Mila, you need to get hooked on phonics. Call 1-800-ABC-DEFG.

Reply by Lisa Prestegard on 11/14/07 6:08pm
Msg #221286

Now you've 'poked the bear'...

Listen up, because I am only going to say this ONCE.

Notary Rotary does not endorse the NNA. The NNA is NOT the "be-all, end-all" for Notaries Public OR Notaries who perform loan closings. In fact, can I get a show of hands, please, for all who think the NNA should be sued for misrepresentation? Defending them, their business practices and their so-called "educational services" is right up there with posting how wonderful SOX Signing Service is to work for.

In my opinion, you are teetering on the verge of professional suicide by defending them, quite truthfully. It shows, in spades, how truly UNeducated you are about this business.

YOU, Milagros, are exactly that which you've been called... a TROLL.... and nothing more.

To insult one of the most helpful, kind and PROFESSIONAL members of this community is beyond stupid. Those of us on this forum who know Sylvia (I'm talking about Title Companies as well as Notaries) take great offense to your comment to her.

If professional suicide was your goal, I believe you have just succeeded.

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 11/14/07 6:15pm
Msg #221289

Re: Now you've 'poked the bear'...

"If professional suicide was your goal, I believe you have just succeeded"

That she has.

Reply by Lisa Prestegard on 11/14/07 6:19pm
Msg #221290

It begs the question, Sylvia...

Is she REALLY a Notary Public, or is she an NNA Troll?

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 11/14/07 6:27pm
Msg #221292

Re: It begs the question, Sylvia...

Nope - she is a fairly new notary in Bridgeport, CT

Reply by Charles_Ca on 11/14/07 6:56pm
Msg #221298

Re: Boy oh boy, Mila, you are one card carring NNA newbot n/m

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 11/14/07 7:20pm
Msg #221303

Re: Boy oh boy, Mila, you are one card carring NNA newbot

"Sylvia go back to the rock you crawled under"

Sorry - the only rock I could find was already occupied by a Bridgeport notary


I am not going to request Harry remove your post, as I feel the title companies and other signing services that read this board need to see your post to know the kind of person they may be sending into their borrowers homes.

Reply by Charles_Ca on 11/14/07 7:52pm
Msg #221314

Sylvia, don't you just love a metaphor getting screwed up

that badly. Reminds me of the "Dead End Kids" short subjects

Reply by Milagros Gonzalez on 11/14/07 7:53pm
Msg #221315

Re: Boy oh boy, Mila, you are one card carring NNA newbot

Unfortunately for you , The Title companies I deal with do get feedbacks about my handling and so far no complaints and that is why I get assignments on a daily basis . Oh and FYI , I've been a Notary for 10 years and yes I'm from Bridgeport. Call me if you should need my services but keep in mine my Fees are a bit on the high side considering that I'm CERTIFIED AND BACKGROUND SCREENED.

Reply by Charles_Ca on 11/14/07 7:56pm
Msg #221317

Dang, what a rock, do you realize that Sylvia owns a Signing

Service. Dig a little deeper! I love seeing people shoot themsleves in the foot. There are plenty of others here who hire notaries too! ROTFLMAO

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 11/14/07 7:57pm
Msg #221318

Re: Boy oh boy, Mila, you are one card carring NNA newbot

" Call me if you should need my services "

When Hades freezes over!. I am very very particular about the signing agents I hire, which is why title companies use my signing service, they know they are getting quality agents handling their loans.

Reply by janie/vt on 11/14/07 8:03pm
Msg #221319

Re: Boy oh boy, Mila, you are one card carring NNA newbot

Sylvia I think you really should branch out your signing service to cover the USA. I would love to work for a company like yours. I just wish there were more like you. You always have good advice for people and get very high regards from the notaries who work for you in FL.

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 11/14/07 8:35pm
Msg #221328

Re: Thank you Janie/vt

I have a high regard for the notaries who work for me
They may not all be "certified" nor background screened by the NNA (The fact they are notaries and have been background screened by the state is good enough for me), but they are the best! They are competent and know what they are doing and I have no problem recommending them to others.

I do get asked for signing agents in other states, in which case I will recommend an agent in the state required. As I like to pay my signing agents as soon as the signing is completed, check goes in the mail the day after the signing, I don't want to get too big.

Reply by janie/vt on 11/14/07 8:06pm
Msg #221320

Re: Boy oh boy, Mila, you are one card carring NNA newbot

Well pin a rose on your nose. Certified and Background screened mean very little to the title companies. I have over 150 Lenders, Title and SS I work for and have never been asked if I was certified and background screened.

Reply by BrendaTx on 11/15/07 6:49am
Msg #221365

The Bumfuzzling is clearing up...

I'm starting to parse through the crazy posts and making (no) sense out of it....

**Shame, shame, shame....see what happens when you don't know the facts?**

I love this remark.

The funniest part of this thread is the implication that Becca not getting paid on time is somehow her not being XYZ Certeefried.

Reply by Becca_FL on 11/14/07 4:36pm
Msg #221229

>>>I am a certified signing agent with the NNA.<<<

I am so sorry that wasted your money.

FACT - This from the NNA website:

"When you become an NNA Certified and Background Screened Notary Signing Agent, you’ll open the door to greater recognition, more signings and higher income.

You’ll know how to handle the signing and notarization of mortgage loan documents, what lenders and borrowers expect, and how to be responsible and ethical — while safeguarding consumer privacy as required by the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act and FTC Safeguards Rule."

Comprehension problems, miracle?

Reply by Milagros Gonzalez on 11/14/07 4:56pm
Msg #221243

The only person waisting her time is you.
It is not your business how I spend my money, first. Second In no where from the NNA statements says it's a garanteed . Perhaps you are just a bit worry that the new generation of Certified agent be knocking you down for assignments.
Oh and last but not least.................It feels great to have a title and be back up by an organization with a solid reputation and well established like the NNA.
You should try it some day.

Reply by Becca_FL on 11/14/07 5:04pm
Msg #221250

ROFLMAO...this post is the best laugh of the day! n/m

Reply by MistarellaFL on 11/14/07 5:06pm
Msg #221251

Re: ROFLMAO...this post is the best laugh of the day!

Ditto that Becca, I needed the comic relief!

Reply by MonicaFL on 11/14/07 5:35pm
Msg #221269

English is our Language and I think

you need a lesson speaking and writing in English. I have copied your last statement and it reads:

Perhaps you are just a bit worry that the new generation of Certified agent be knocking you down for assignments.
Oh and last but not least.................It feels great to have a title and be back up by an organization with a solid reputation and well established like the NNA.

"Perhaps you are just a bit worry" "Worry" What does that mean? "...the new generation of Certified agent be knocking you down for assignments". ..."be knocking you down" What does that mean? ... to have a title and be back up by... "be back up by" What does that mean? Before you start berating us, I think you need to learn how to speak and write clearly, at least review what you write before you post it.

Reply by rengel/CA on 11/14/07 5:40pm
Msg #221270

Let's not let our feelings get in the way of an education

BTW, your NNA ertification is not worth the paper it's printed on.

My .02

Reply by LJ on 11/14/07 5:48pm
Msg #221275

Re: Let's not let our feelings get in the way of an education

I have received my final National Notary magazine from NNA. I have received 5 overdue bills to re-new my membership. I have filed every one of them in the round file (trash can). My certification and membership has done absolutely nothing for me for 2 years. I have not received 1 assignment from them (and I ask when a new company calls how they found me) in over a year and a half. Wasted money.

If you stick with this, and I have my doubts because of your speaking and writing skills, you will eat the words you are writing, I/We guarantee it.

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 11/14/07 5:44pm
Msg #221271

".................It feels great to have a title and be back up by an organization with a solid reputation and well established like the NNA."

That is the joke of the day!!!!

Of course they do have a "solid reputation" but it is not one they should be proud of.
When you have been around this business as long as many of us have (before the NNA got into the signing agent business and denigrated it) then you will understand the disdain many of us have for the NNA.
But I doubt you are going to be in this business very long.

Becca has no need to worry that the new generation of Certified agents will be "knocking" her down for assignments.
Experience will always count in this business. You see more and more title companies and signing companies requiring two years experience. There is a reason for this! The reason is inexperienced certified signing agents who have no clue what they are doing.

Reply by MistarellaFL on 11/14/07 5:58pm
Msg #221283

Oh MILA.....MILA.....

<<click! You've just been completely closed from futher (sic) discussion.>>

<<end of discussion>>

I thought you took your toys and went home!

Reply by Loretta Reed on 11/14/07 8:56pm
Msg #221332

I am not NNA certified, never took their classes. I have been doing this for 12 years and made over 100k a year, until this year when the NNA girls came out of the closet and took $60 closings in my area. I never needed them, I got licensed through the State of Maryland. My TPL and my reputation made me who I am today.

I have never had one title company require that I become NNA certified. That would be insane. They want my license and my e&o insurance.

Reply by BrendaTx on 11/14/07 9:05pm
Msg #221333

Don't state facts Miracle doesn't like. She'll report you to Harry or give you the "end of discussion" order.

Yep. Beware Loretta.

Reply by Loretta Reed on 11/14/07 9:09pm
Msg #221336

Wow, I don't believe that I have ever backed down from an argument but I am a little intimidated by Harry

I'm still trying to figure out what kind of person would endorse the NNA. It must be someone with some type of personal relationship with them.

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 11/14/07 9:12pm
Msg #221338

"I'm still trying to figure out what kind of person would endorse the NNA. It must be someone with some type of personal relationship with them"

Or someone totally uninformed!

Reply by Charles_Ca on 11/14/07 9:32pm
Msg #221340

I took my certification thru them, but I don't tell anyone! n/m

Reply by Stamper_WI on 11/14/07 9:41pm
Msg #221342

Where did you take it to? n/m

Reply by Stamper_WI on 11/14/07 9:56pm
Msg #221344

Re: Where did you take it to?

My take on the NNA is that they gain a lot of their credibility from lobbying and testifying at hearings with the federal lawmakers the big 5 lenders and title comglomerates and the Rose Bowl parade committee. Always the same faces and voices. Their success at marketing for members give them the crediibilty to be asked to do these things. There is a definate slant and that is as representing their membership. Slick self representation to their members is the opiate administered to that membership.
The voice is a few well educated agressive individuals with thousands of parrots echoing the sell.
The basic national UCC recomendations for notary law is their outline with a state by state cut and paste for the rest. Their failing is in their testing, if any for the certification and passing the buck by saying go to sites like Notary Rotary to ask their questions. I am guessing that there is no timely response to them when they are put to the NNA.
At best the pride they have in saying they are NNA certified comes from the fact they made an attempt to educate them selves. That shows some initiative. Misguided as it may be.

Reply by Carmen/123 on 11/14/07 11:48pm
Msg #221351

Milagros..it is obvious from your posts that you are very new to this business. (maybe not as a notary but surely new to signings) Everybody who has been doing this for any length of time is fully aware that the NNA has never had our best interests at heart. They are the laughing stock of our business. All they do is line their pockets with our hard earned money offering nothing really in return. The background screening is a joke. After you have been doing this for awhile you will look back on this and see how uninformed and how 'new' you look. Do yourself a favor and do a search with the orange search button at the top of the page) on this board on the NNA (also sometime referred to as XYZ). Hopefully this will give you some more insight. Doesn't it strike you odd that ALL of us are telling you the same thing...this is all from experience. Unfortunately, you have insulted many folks that could have been a valuable asset to you. The sad part is that you don't even know it.

Carmen

Reply by Becca_FL on 11/14/07 11:56pm
Msg #221353

Carmen, thank you. You are a kind, truthful heart in this..

mess. I can only hope that your words make an impact.

Reply by KBLedgard_CA on 11/15/07 8:06am
Msg #221371

Carmen, she doesn't seem to care who she irritates or alienates. She's got blinders on.

Reply by Michael/FL on 11/15/07 9:47am
Msg #221398

Here's an idea, if she wants think so highly of her skills and so forth, become a lawyer THEN you can brag on your certification. You are just a notary, relax geesh! There are great people on this forum that have helped out numerous people, myself included. As notaries you notarize signatures and stating the person in front of you is the one on the documentation.

Now you go to law school, pass the BAR exam then maybe I will think differently. Other then that you my dear are just like every other notary out there who has a power trip and is jealous of the competition.

I read enough off the first couple posts. I was not even going to waste my time reading it all because you seem to be a one-sided argument person.

Becca knows her stuff