Posted by Ebony Harris on 9/26/07 3:55pm
Msg #213305

Mobile Notaries

How can signing edocs and faxed docs be legal in the state of virgini, if you are suppose to witness the signing?

Reply by Jersey_Boy on 9/26/07 4:02pm
Msg #213306

Oh JEEz.... here it comes..... n/m

Reply by robert greenwald on 9/26/07 4:05pm
Msg #213307

Your question is not clear so there fore there is no possible answer.

Reply by Phillip/TX on 9/26/07 4:25pm
Msg #213313

Oh my gosh, this is not a real notary?

Reply by Ebony Harris on 9/27/07 9:33am
Msg #213390

For all of you who have smart answers, Thanks for nothing!!!!!

Reply by aatatusko on 9/27/07 9:41am
Msg #213391

Ebony...I didn't give a smart answer ~

I didn't understand your question. You weren't really suggesting that someone had asked you to sign and stamp a doc that was emailed to you, were you? I know in VA there is no test to take to become a notary but it is a requirement that you read the handbook and understand it. If you have and you do, then this question would never have been asked, that's why you got some of the smart answers from posters on this board.

Reply by tomsign on 9/27/07 11:02am
Msg #213426

Legal because as of July ! 2007 you need to use a notary seal that you can see when faxed, either take the old seal and use carbon paper or ink your embossed seal (messy) or up grade to the pre inked stamp. Acorn supply for 15.00 dollars.

Reply by Steven Carter on 9/26/07 4:06pm
Msg #213308

And if this is clear, like we all think it is, a job in fast food may be in order.................

Reply by Gerry_VT on 9/26/07 4:22pm
Msg #213312

The general idea is that the unsigned documents faxed or emailed to the notary, or the notary downloads them. The notary takes them to the signer, who signs them. The notary notarizes any pages documents that need it. The signed documents are sent by mail or delivery service to an appropriate destination.

Some states do not allow notaries to do this for real estate transactions unless they are also attorneys, or have some other license (such as title producer). I have no idea what Virginia allows.

Reply by CJ on 9/26/07 4:38pm
Msg #213315

Requirements

Make sure you have a fast printer, lots of extra ink, extra printing drums, extra reams of paper, fast internet connection, and tell the borrower that you might be late because the doucments may show up after the appointment time. If you are going buy a printer special you may as well pay extra for the double trays.

Reply by Ernest__CT on 9/26/07 4:52pm
Msg #213317

Re: Requirements, buying new printer

No doubt about it. Anyone who is entering this field now really, really ought to buy a printer that can automagically choose between letter size and legal size paper based on the PDF file. Otherwise the newbie will regret not having done so.

Reply by CaliNotary on 9/26/07 8:49pm
Msg #213349

Why? n/m

Reply by CaliNotary on 9/26/07 8:50pm
Msg #213350

Re: Why? (second try)

I've never had a printer with two paper trays and I've been doing this for over 4 years. I just print all mixed packages on letter size, it's never once been an issue in over 3000 signings.

Reply by DogmongerCA on 9/26/07 9:05pm
Msg #213355

Cali I think you meant print on all legal

And I think the poster was alluding to the fact that legal paper prices have gone way up, and with the tightening market, it makes sense to print on letter, because of cost, when possible. I still print the borrowers copies on my 3330 on legal, and am about to install a 1200 SE in my car for mobile printing on all legal. JMHO

Reply by Joan Bergstrom on 9/26/07 11:07pm
Msg #213364

I duplex the borrower's copy

I also print their copy on "toner saver." I wouldn't recommend this printing method until you have done several hundred loans.

My method can save a very experienced loan signer a lot of money on paper & toner.

A dual tray printer is a very good choice if your buying a new printer.

I bought 2 Brother MFC 8860DN and I will go back to HP because, while the Brothers print at 30 pages per minute, they also require a DRUM to place the toner cartridge in.

After 25,000 pages you have to buy a new DRUM or at least my printers left black print smudges on the edges of the documents I printed and turning back the counter didn't solve my problem.

It's HP for me from now on!

Reply by Todd/OH on 9/26/07 5:00pm
Msg #213321

Is this person serious ?? n/m

Reply by Phillip/TX on 9/26/07 5:01pm
Msg #213323

Re: Is this person serious ??

That is what I thought!!!!!!!!

Reply by Becca_FL on 9/26/07 5:03pm
Msg #213324

The beat goes on............ n/m

Reply by LJ on 9/26/07 5:03pm
Msg #213325

Re: Is this person serious ??

If I didn't feel so bad for this person been lead astray like this, it would be funny. Something has to be done about this, what I don't know. This is just awful.

Reply by Todd/OH on 9/26/07 5:08pm
Msg #213328

We really don't know -

if this person is a commissioned notary. You don't have to be a notary to participate on this board. If they aren't, they're seriously wasting their time.

Reply by claudine osborne on 9/26/07 9:08pm
Msg #213356

Re: Is this person serious ??

I had a newbie with NO experience ..tell me there were NO counties in her state...Virginia! Duh

Reply by Todd/OH on 9/27/07 8:48am
Msg #213383

Re: Is this person serious ??

My guess is that newbie you refer to has never been pulled over by the Sheriff - nor have I for that matter.

Reply by MikeC/NY on 9/26/07 6:30pm
Msg #213337

Troll alert... n/m

Reply by Sandra Clark on 9/26/07 7:52pm
Msg #213341

Please tell me you're kidding........otherwise God help us all

Reply by hp/MD on 9/26/07 8:52pm
Msg #213351

You guys scare him away. He is not going to show up on this Board.

Reply by Terri_CA on 9/27/07 10:37am
Msg #213410

Because you're not just a notary doing signings. As the Signing Agent you receive the documents electronically, either through attachment to e-mail, or link for a download, or via fax (which is extremely rare these days). Once you've printed docs (usually 2 sets), you meet with the borrowers, verify their ID, have the sign the documents where necessary and notarized the documents that the borrower's sign that need it.

Just curious, why would you think it illegal to receive/print the documents?

Terri
Lancaster, CA

Reply by Kate/CA on 9/27/07 10:51am
Msg #213416

I think she missed the word print in the class she took.

Just curious, in the classes you teach, what percentage of the students would of asked a question like this afterwards?

Reply by Ebony Harris on 9/27/07 10:58am
Msg #213422

For all who have smart answers the only reason I aksed that question was because I had a new sigining company send me a document that already had a signature on it!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe I should have reworded my question, but you'll need to grow up because we are suppose to all be notaries and help each other out if there are questions. Like I said earlier thanks for nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 9/27/07 11:00am
Msg #213425

Ebony
Maybe you should have explained that in your original post and you would have got different answers.

Which document already had a signature on it?

Reply by Terri_CA on 9/27/07 11:11am
Msg #213428

Ebony as Sylvia pointed out, it definitely makes a difference in the quality of replies, if the post has as much information as possible. Such as:

"The SS faxed me an already signed document asking me to notarize it." etc., etc., However, to be honest, this type of question may also garner you some "smart" answers because ALL notaries must know first and foremost that the answer is a resounding "NO," why, because A) the signer has to personally appear before the notary at the time of notarization; B) provide proper identification; C) there should be an original signature on the document for you to notarize, along with any other state specific requirements.

All of this gets explained to the company, and usually they don't like it when you tell them it's illegal to do as they requested. Here in CA, I quote Section 8225; It's illegal to ask a notary to perform illegally It's a misdemeanor.

Terri
Lancaster, CA

Reply by Cathy Procida on 9/27/07 11:56am
Msg #213443

Hi Ebony,
You are absolutely right, I have helped out many notaries, especially new ones for years, I don't feel someone asking for a little help with information should be put down. Sometimes people need to feel superior. Ignore the negative and go with with the positive!

Reply by Ebony Harris on 9/27/07 12:45pm
Msg #213475

Thanks Cathy!

Reply by Terri_CA on 9/27/07 11:02am
Msg #213427

Kate - They wouldn't I make it very plain what "e-docs/faxed docs" are and that they will ALWAYS print two sets unless they've received instructions to only print one set, etc.

Terri
Lancaster, CA