Posted by DD/OR on 4/26/08 11:14am
Msg #245166

Deadbeat companys

Owners of deadbeat companys are not very smart. Its easy to collect from deadbeat companys if you know how. I used to do Small Claims collections. If a person won in SC court, I usually got their money for them. Any notary would win in SC court if someone owed you money and you can prove it. Then you have the sheriff of the city where the company is located, go in and confiscate their office furniture. At the same time, have the sheriff go to their home to confiscate their furniture and cars to satisfay the debt. Also put a hold on their bank account. I intend to do all these things if Todd at Closing Quest doesn't pay what he owes me. If Todd is smart, he will pay me. DD

Reply by sue_pa on 4/26/08 11:20am
Msg #245170

It's not that easy unless they're in your own state - same jurisdiction is also easier. If I get a judgment in my home county and want to execute 10 miles away in the next county, there is paperwork to be done -you must get your judgment recorded in the county you want to execute in. You're correct that we most of us would probably win in small claims court. BUT, that judgment then must be moved to the jurisdiction where the assets are located. I know nothing about Closing Quest but if it's incorporated, you probably aren't getting anything from that guy's house or car. You must find out the legal structure of the company owing you to be sure you collect from the proper individual. All said, in theory it's easy - in practice it's probably not worth the $$$ unless someone owes you substantial fees.

Reply by MistarellaFL on 4/26/08 11:33am
Msg #245176

Give it a rest Dixie

The majority of your posts deal with how you are gonna get the non-payers.
Take a walk and give your blood pressure a treat.

Reply by DD/OR on 4/26/08 11:43am
Msg #245179

Re: Give it a rest Dixie

My blood pressure is fine but I'll bet yours isn't. You sound like a SS, who is under fire from notaries nationwide trying to collect. You're upset because I'm trying to help notaries get their money. And besides this is a community notary forum.

Reply by AAA LEGAL SERVICES - JOHN on 4/26/08 12:42pm
Msg #245197

Re: Give it a rest Dixie

I suspect this ia a reply from a signing services

Reply by DD/OR on 4/26/08 11:37am
Msg #245178

To put it simply, you are wrong and I'll prove it if Closing Quest doesn't pay up.

Reply by A-1 Signing Agents, LLC on 4/26/08 11:50am
Msg #245181

I can't even imagine such over kill for a fee the doesn't equal anything close to what furniture, cars, etc amounts to. I would think first they would send a letter to demand payment before any of that took place. (i'm not an SS either)

Reply by James Allen on 4/26/08 12:06pm
Msg #245184

DD, I can understand where you are coming from with not being paid. What I would like to bring to attention though is that most if not all of these companies are incorporated. Which, I am sure you probably already know limits the officers and employees of the company as far as liablilty in concerned. So unless they signed a personal guarantee to you making them personally liable for the debt, it would be impossible to put liens on thier personal assets.

Reply by MistarellaFL on 4/26/08 12:11pm
Msg #245188

TROLL, I'm not a SS, never been one, never going to be one

But you come on here every couple of months ranting about your non-paying companies (even SOX), wanting and giving advice, but not liking the advice, or the response to your advice, therefore making yourself into a flamng TROLL.
You'll go away again, returning in another 3-6 months with the same ranting nonsense.
I'd feel differently if you were actually contributing something useful.

Reply by DD/OR on 4/26/08 12:39pm
Msg #245193

Re: TROLL, I'm not a SS, never been one, never going to be one

Misterella, you're the Troll. You lie a lot. You are a signing service. I've seen some of your advice that you give notaries. Some of it stinks to high heaven. I'd be very careful about following your advice. I do give notaries good advice about collections and that's what has you upset. You don't like my advice to them because it is contrary to you and because its the truth. The truth hurts, doesn't it Misterell? The proof is in the pudding and you're showing your true colors. DD

Reply by MistarellaFL on 4/26/08 12:50pm
Msg #245198

Anyone can click on my link and go to my website

to see I am not a SS, momo.
Anyone who has been posting here as long as I have, knows this too.
I am against working for SS, and exclusively do direct work, with a few exceptions.

Reply by Les_CO on 4/26/08 4:36pm
Msg #245229

Re: TROLL, I'm not a SS, never been one, never going to be one

To Deluded, Disgruntled, Dispirited, and in the Dark…. DD. I feel for you! I really do. No one likes to be not paid for their work. We as Notary Signing Agents are in a very vulnerable position. We as a matter of course ‘extent credit’ to unknown people, States away, with NO guaranty of payment. This is why this business in rife with thieves. We virtually have no recourse, except to make the thieves known to all, and to NEVER work for them again. And to also make the ‘good guys’, that pay equally known. I applaud all your efforts at confronting these scum, and trying to get what is rightfully yours. I think you have little chance….Dream the Impossible Dream!!

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 4/26/08 1:51pm
Msg #245206

Re: Mistarella

I do believe DD is confusing you with the member who posts under the name of Misty.

I know you are not a signing service.

Reply by MistarellaFL on 4/26/08 4:22pm
Msg #245227

Sylvia

Thank you. You are one of the few exceptions I mentioned!

Reply by DD/OR on 4/26/08 12:30pm
Msg #245192

You don't get it. It is possible. If you haven't studied law, you will not know. I would assume most of these mom & pop SS operations are not incorported. But if they are, you just name the corportion officers as well as individuals involved. Once I went after a big car dealership that had a small judgment against them. I didn't pursue it because I had other cases that made me more money. And it doesn't matter what state they're in. I used to be a Paralegal for an attorney when I lived in California plus I worked for a paralegal. Then, I had my own paralegal business going for a time. I went to college in San Luis Obispo for paralegal studies. Then I moved to Oregon. So as you can see, I have a lot of background in Law and Real Estate. I have a Real Estate background and I was primarily interested in Real Estate law. That's why I went to college to study paralegal. So some people posting on here about law have no idea what they're talking about. IMHO, I suspect they are SS who will defend criminals working as SS. DD

Reply by Philip Johnson on 4/26/08 12:40pm
Msg #245195

Do you think it might be you?

"Once I went after a big car dealership that had a small judgment against them. I didn't pursue it because I had other cases that made me more money" So what business are you in? It seems that you spend an inordinate amount of time going after money owed you. I may in any given month send out 2 or 3 thirty day reminders, but for the most part I spend more time making money then chasing it.

I'm shocked that your pay in advance theory that you had a year ago or so didn't work out for you. If you had held to that, it seems to me that you would not be chasing these folks in Nashville.

One more thing, when making the word company plural it's spelled companies.

Reply by sue_pa on 4/26/08 1:26pm
Msg #245201

I'm asking for your advice and help

although I don't need it right now. I would truly like to know how I could collect on a judgment from a CA signing service. I sue them here and I get a judgment. To the best of my knowledge, also from working for years in a law office (since 1973 to be exact), I must file the judgment in my county. I now want to execute in CA so I must get my judgment transferred to CA - not always so easy crossing state lines because many states won't unilaterally accept a judgment from another state. But, say I get the judgment transferred. I am now ready to execute so I send the sheriff, or whoever, out to levy. My judgment is against Slimy Signing Service, Inc., owned by Sammy Slime. When I have them go to his house and they levy on Sammy Slime's personal property, he's going to file an interpleader and have his personal assets removed. Please correct me where I'm wrong. I honestly would like to know how this is done - because the law office that I worked in (that had a HUGE collection practice although that wasn't the department I worked in) apparently doesn't know the secrets you know. I am not being a smarty pants here - I just would love to know what you're saying - and not in the abstract as you have been.

Reply by Les_CO on 4/26/08 3:59pm
Msg #245224

Re: I'm asking for your advice and help/Sue

Sue the answer to your question is “You don’t”. Most of these flakes are “judgment proof” AKA they have NOTHING; they own NOTHING. They are thieves. To collect in CA you would serve them there,(Sheriff) go there, (appear) win in court, get a judgment, and then TRY and collect. You can attach/encumber all their assets (which they have none) for YEARS.
These guys are thieves…crooks…felons…gang bangers…They live outside (our) society. Legally you don’t stand a chance… Find out where they are, and go and shoot them! Then don’t tell us, but my thanks in advance!!!!!

Reply by Maureen_nh on 4/26/08 10:28pm
Msg #245251

Please

Don't encourage Sue to come out and shoot them.
This is a mean lady and she would be on a plane in a minute--and know where to buy an AK47

Seriously, there is a time to reap and a time to sow and a time to cut your losses and learn from your mistakes. But that doesn't mean you can't stop annoying the thieves (good term, they are stealing ) and reporting them to one and all.
PS since the NNA is SO notary oriented maybe we should start reporting the bad guys to them.

Reply by AAA LEGAL SERVICES - JOHN on 4/26/08 4:03pm
Msg #245226

Re: I'm asking for your advice and help

Sue, call us at 805-489-5370. We have sucessfully collected from deadbeats.

Reply by GA/Atty on 4/26/08 6:58pm
Msg #245236

I am not sure about in California, but you might try this.

Once you get your PA judgement domesticated in California, you might be able to levy on the defendant's bank account.

Of course you have to wait until the money is in there, which requires checking each day to see if a check for $ xxx would clear their account. Once the money is there, you may be able to present a garnishment for the funds in there to the bank.

Reply by DD/OR on 4/27/08 1:26pm
Msg #245283

Re: I'm asking for your advice and help

Sue, I'm sorry I didn't answer you right away. I got busy. To answer your question... yes, you can collect from a company thats in a different state. The injury (loss) you suffered happened in your own locality, even though the company is out of state. Therefore, you file in your own local small claims court. As far as the companys that have incorporated... they think they can escape paying judgments. They are wrong. Gotta run right now. Good luck.

Reply by AAA LEGAL SERVICES - JOHN on 4/26/08 12:40pm
Msg #245196

RIGHT ON!!!!

Reply by Les_CO on 4/26/08 3:35pm
Msg #245222

Deadbeat = Stupid = Synonym! Deadbeats are NOT smart! They are just thieves, with a thieves’ mentality. If they would work as hard at a legitimate business, as they do stealing, they could be honestly successful. STUPID! STUPID! STUPID! And there ain’t no cure for stupid!