Posted by Paul2_FL on 8/24/08 2:49pm
Msg #261582

List of companies that are "out of business"

Below is a list of companies taken from NotRot that I believe are now "out of business". If you know of any others that fall into this catagory please add to this list. Also if you believe any of these are still "in business" please make the correction. (I scrutinized this as best I could but its always possible I could have made some mistakes).
Hopefully, this list will help those of us who use NotRot's Signing Central to avoid these companies.

#1 Priority Signing Services Huntington Beach, CA
1st Olympic Settlement Services Pittsburgh, PA
A Keen Signature Services, LLC Atlanta, GA
All Business Solutions Bakersfield, CA
All Pro Signing Solutions Cleveland, OH
American United Closing Service Fort Myers, FL
AmeriComm Dallas, TX
Blue Sky Settlement Services, LLC - Peoria Peoria, AZ
CalDocs Notary Simi Valley, CA
Carver Signing Services Chico, CA
Central Florida Closing Palmetto, FL
Certified Signing Services, Inc. - Closing Department Houston, TX
Coast To Coast Mobile Closers Minnetonka, MN
Consumer Marketing Services, Inc. - CMS East Syracruse, NY
Courtesy Settlement Services LP Cabin John, MO
CTC Notary - AKA -Golden Bear Signings Sacramento, CA
Document Assistance Company Newport Beach, CA
Expedient Signing Services - Scheduling Henderson, NV
Express Financial Services Pittsburgh, PA
Fidelity National Lenders Solutions - Signing Service Santa Ana, CA
First National Closing Agents Santa Ana, CA
Florida Document Signers Lutz, FL
FNP Document Services - Nationwide Signing Service Jacksonville, FL
Get It Signed Notary * out of business* Costa Mesa, CA
Insured Closings Medina, OH
Island View Financial San Clemente, CA
Land Options, Inc. - Closing Dept. Pittsburgh, PA
LDC National New Port Richey, FL
Leading Edge Mortgage Services, Inc. Oceanside, CA
Lenders First Choice - CA Simi Valley, CA
Lenders First Choice - TX Frisco, TX
Lenders First Choice * - Mountain Division Greenwood Village, CO
Lenders First Choice Stockton, CA
Mobile Docs Riverside, CA
Nationwide Closing Connection Rhodes, MI
Neil Bryan Tygar P.A. Boca Raton, FL
Notary Express Inc Sacramento, CA
Notary On The Run *out of business* - Isabella G. Velasquez Anaheim Hills, CA
Ocean City Title Solutions, Inc. Boynton Beach, FL
Pam Butcher and Associates Las Vegas, NV
Pinnacle Real Estate Services, Inc. Ladera Ranch,, CA
Platinum Escrow, LLC Kirkland, WA
Precision Closing Services Brea, CA
Premier Document Solutions, LLC Placentia, CA
Pro Notary Spring Hill, FL
Pro Sign Document Services, Inc. - Michael Glendale, CA
R and R Signature Service Phoenix, AZ
Signature Company San Diego, CA
Signatures Plus Irvine, CA
Southeast Equity Title Westerville, OH
Southeastern Settlements West Colombia, SC
Stompen Stampers , CA
The Closing Group Louisville, KY
United Document Services, Inc. Laguna Beach, CA
USA Signing Services Santa Ana, CA
Wilson Doc Signing Service Santa Ana, CA

Reply by BrendaTx on 8/24/08 2:51pm
Msg #261584

I don't know where you got this, or if you compiled it yourself, but assuming it is accurate it is a very generous commitment to the board.

Reply by Paul2_FL on 8/24/08 3:12pm
Msg #261590

Hi Brenda,
Yes I complied it from the Signing Central list. I also did one for "Deadbeat" companies but don't think it appropriate to publish here because I might offend someone.

Reply by Cheryl Anderson on 8/24/08 3:59pm
Msg #261597

Wow, Paul2...thank you very very much. This IS a generous contribution to the board, as BrendaTX stated. Have a great day!

Reply by Cheryl Anderson on 8/24/08 4:14pm
Msg #261598

...and out of 56 of these listed, 26 are from California...if I actually counted correctly. Oh my goodness...very interesting statistics...

Reply by ZeeCA on 8/24/08 2:53pm
Msg #261585

Isn't Paige @ 11th hour out of business???? n/m

Reply by BrendaTx on 8/24/08 3:09pm
Msg #261589

Zee, maybe one way to make use of this is to

copy and paste it into a new post and add the out of business notary signing service to it.

Then you can add her.

No one notary can make that list all inclusive but Paul's list is a great start.

Reply by ZeeCA on 8/24/08 3:27pm
Msg #261591

I agree... it was a ? as I am not 100% on her and 4/got

to say a big THX to Paul for all your effort and hard work

VERY appreciated.......

Reply by Kevin/Ct on 8/24/08 2:57pm
Msg #261586

Only the strong survive. The bottom feeders offering the $50.00 to $90.00 fees are simply capitalizing on the current business slump. Economists are projecting the market to bottom out in the first quarter of 2009. When the oversupply of cheap housing on the market reverses...let them try to find a signing agent for the low ball fees. the signing agents have long memories of who you are.

Reply by LynnNC on 8/24/08 3:35pm
Msg #261592

Will Harry take them off Signing Central?

Reply by Yowheelz on 8/24/08 3:40pm
Msg #261594

Has list been verified? I receintly had call from A Keen n/m

Reply by Paul2_FL on 8/24/08 6:54pm
Msg #261616

Re: Has list been verified? I receintly had call from A Keen

No it hasn't been verified but I tried to log on to their website and it was gone. I also tried to contact them with email but that bounced so I "assumed" they were out of business. If you find out that they are still in business please post so I can update the list. Thanks

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 8/24/08 8:54pm
Msg #261624

Re: Has list been verified? I receintly had call from A Keen

I just went to the website...it's active and the phone is still in service. akeenservice dot com

Reply by Negrete on 8/24/08 3:40pm
Msg #261595

I tried this onceand got bashed for it.

I did this once before with a web site ( will remain unamed ) and got the crap bashed out of me. Thanks for all the support folks.

I do thank Paul for the list though.

I guess being a SS I should have known better than to try to help the notaries stay away from deadbeat or out of busniess companies.

Anthony J Negrete

Reply by KBLedgard_CA on 8/24/08 6:56pm
Msg #261617

Tony - If you're going to tell a story...tell it correctly!

If you're going to tell a story Tony, tell it fing right! You said (back in Jan/Feb) something along the lines of "Hey, check out this website I stumbled upon." Only when the respected notaries of this forum pointed out that you owned his website did you get "blasted" and rightfully so...because I'm sure as most of us know, very few, if any, signing services do anything without an ulterior motive. And stop posting your website on every post...we know WTF you are - DH!

Then you posted this promise, which is also another lie on your part. Not a surprise – you are a SS.

"Msg #233537
21 replies NEVER AGAIN
By Negrete on 2/1/08 11:08am

will I post on this board.

Have a good time folks.

I tried to do a good thing for the notaries and this is the thanks I get. Well thanks but no thanks. I will NOT answer PMs either.

NEVER NEVER NEVER AGAIN."


Don't go crying because you did something deceitful and were called on it...JA!!!

Reply by LynnNC on 8/24/08 3:42pm
Msg #261596

The number for Full Service Title and Escrow Co in Nashville has been disconnected, so, they might be out of business as well.

Reply by Paul2_FL on 8/24/08 4:32pm
Msg #261599

Full Service Title & Escrow is now

Heritage Title Services.

Reply by SueW/Tn on 8/24/08 5:07pm
Msg #261600

Insured Closings in Medina called me Thursday of last week

Didn't take the closing BUT they did call

Reply by Paul2_FL on 8/24/08 6:42pm
Msg #261615

Re: Correction to Insured Closings

Hi Sue,

You are correct on this. I copied this one to my "out of business" database by mistake - sorry.

Reply by Insured Closings on 8/25/08 12:57pm
Msg #261687

Re: Correction to Insured Closings

Thank you for making that correction!

It's been slow, but we are still alive and kicking!

Insured Closings

Reply by Margie Pratl on 8/25/08 6:11pm
Msg #261728

Re: Insured Closings in Medina called me Thursday of last week

I completed a closing for them on August 14th.

Reply by desktopfull on 8/25/08 6:32pm
Msg #261734

They still owe me for 2 closings I did for them back in 2004

Good luck on getting paid.

Reply by Insured Closings on 9/5/08 4:46pm
Msg #263306

Re: They still owe me for 2 closings I did for them back in 2004

Please submit an inquiry through our website and we can look into the payment request. It will be difficult to obtain records, as it was from 2004.

http://www.insuredclosings.com/Closerpayrequest.asp

Reply by MW/VA on 8/24/08 5:54pm
Msg #261605

Thanks for your efforts. Did you post on Signing Central under the individual companies?

Reply by Susan Fischer on 8/24/08 7:21pm
Msg #261619

Add: Angels on the Run, if I'm not mistaken? n/m

Reply by Paul2_FL on 8/24/08 8:19pm
Msg #261623

Re: Add: Angels on the Run, if I'm not mistaken?

The Angels on the Run website is still active so I assume they are still in business.

Reply by Barbara Kreidel on 8/24/08 7:30pm
Msg #261620

I believe that Notary Express Inc in CA and Nationwide Document Signing Service (Hector) also in CA are out of business.

Reply by Paul2_FL on 8/24/08 8:16pm
Msg #261622

Notary Express Inc Sacramento, CA is already on the list.

Reply by PATTY/NV on 8/24/08 10:41pm
Msg #261635

classic signing service is out of business too.

Reply by CaliNotary on 8/24/08 11:36pm
Msg #261637

"Hopefully, this list will help those of us who use NotRot's Signing Central to avoid these companies."

Am I missing something here? If they're out of business why would they be calling us for signings? That would make them still in business.

Reply by Paul2_FL on 8/25/08 9:12am
Msg #261656

Hi Cali, If you don't use Signing Central to contact companies to sign up with then it is of no benefit to you. However, if you do then you could be wasting your time trying to contact companies that have gone out of business.

Reply by Calnotary on 8/25/08 9:15am
Msg #261657

You can add to the list Moses in Motion in Chino Hills, CA; Sanders Signing Services in Upland CA.

Reply by CaliNotary on 8/25/08 11:12am
Msg #261663

That makes sense

I wasn't thinking along those lines at all.

Reply by kathy/ca on 8/25/08 10:16am
Msg #261658

Cali, I keep a file card on every company I sign up with

and/or have done business with. I also have a file set up for each. This info is helpful to weed out all the file cards and folders that are no longer needed and hopefully make room for new companies. I dont know if others use the system that I do, but whatever system you do use, this is great info. Thx Paul_2!

Reply by Linda Hubbell on 8/25/08 10:48am
Msg #261659

Here's a thought...

Anyone who has confirmed that a company is definitely out of business - add a note to the remarks section form them in SC in caps....OUT OF BUSINESS....then anyone who goes there looking for a company SHOULD see that...

In the meantime, Harry and/or whoever, is it possible for you (management) to flag the company in SC once it's confirmed that the company is out of business and the effective date...
a red flag or something. And/or, how about a separate tab for confirmed demised companies available to all to add companies that close down (make it subject to your review, as in adding a company, if you wish).

Like I said, just a thought.

Reply by Sharon Taylor on 8/25/08 10:52am
Msg #261660

Awesome list, Paul; great idea, Linda

Another good use for the list is to weed out the companies that we are still attempting to chase for our fees. I used to have one or at most two that stiffed me each year, but last year I ended up with 6, 3 of which went bankrupt. Luckily each only owed me for 1 closing, but that is still a lot of money to lose.

Reply by BrendaTx on 8/25/08 11:00am
Msg #261662

Re: Here's a thought...

If they are OOB, I'd like to see them stay in SC so that it can be confirmed...I don't see any reason to remove them.

(To whoever suggested that...I'm unable to research it at the moment.)

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 8/25/08 10:53am
Msg #261661

Oh...and my thanks, too, Paul2...:) n/m

Reply by kflorida on 8/25/08 11:40am
Msg #261666

Lenders first Choice also has a company in Longwood, FL that went out last month too.

Docuserv- has not paid anyone since last fall

Reply by Rachel Harvey on 8/25/08 1:37pm
Msg #261696

Isn't FNP now AmPro?

If so, they are still in business.

Reply by Paul2_FL on 8/25/08 2:16pm
Msg #261700

Re: Isn't FNP now AmPro?

Yes it is. However, for this exercise I tried to list only those companies that are "out of business". If you check SC you will see that both FNP and AMPRO are listed. FNP is "out of business" regardless of the fact that they closed one door and opened another. If you tried to sign up with FNP you wouldn't be able to. Your point however is a good one. There are a lot of companies that closed their doors owing money to notaries and then opened up under another name. I'm not saying FNP is one of them. If anyone has a list of these I'd be very interested.

Reply by Fernando Posada on 8/25/08 3:25pm
Msg #261708

Notary 2 Day is out of business since they are not returning

phone calls, e-mails no paying etc...

Reply by Linda Juenger on 8/25/08 6:16pm
Msg #261730

LIA I assume they are out of business Thank goodness n/m

Reply by Paul2_FL on 8/25/08 6:54pm
Msg #261747

Re: LIA They still have their website active n/m