Posted by Kathy Fletcher on 12/22/08 8:53am
Msg #272571

Notarize Flags

I have not been able to find a supplier for these flags. Does anyone know of a resource please?

Happy Holidays!

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 12/22/08 8:57am
Msg #272573

Staples - or google "Notarize Flags"....several suppliers... n/m

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 12/22/08 10:58am
Msg #272590

3M Post-it Notarize Printed Message Flags

Amazon ($3.45):
http://www.amazon.com/MMM680NZ2-NOTARIZE-Printed-Message-Flags/dp/B0016OV4WW

Go to Forms:
http://www.gotoforms.com/mmm680nz2_post-it_notarize_printed_message_flags_3m_30602_prd1.htm


Sam's Club ($4.43):
http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/navigate.do?dest=5&item=353256&pCatg=8345

Staples ($5.49):
http://www.staples.com/office/supplies/p4_Post-it-1-Printed-Message-Flags-with-Pop-Up-Dispenser_158205_Business_Supplies_0_10051_SC1:CG25:DP2225:CL163565:SS1036322

Premiere Supplies ($5.08):
http://www.premiersuppliesonline.com/3M_Post_it_Notarize_Flags_p/mmm680nz2.htm

Reply by Steven Pearce on 12/22/08 12:28pm
Msg #272592

I make my own. Pad of sticky notes and monster paper cutter n/m

Reply by CaliNotary on 12/22/08 2:20pm
Msg #272599

I was born with mine.

I have a finger to point with and a mouth to tell people where to sign.

Why would we need the ones that say "notarize" anyway?

Reply by jba/fl on 12/22/08 2:49pm
Msg #272603

because we can't read??? n/m

Reply by CARID on 12/22/08 3:23pm
Msg #272609

Never used them. n/m

Reply by Ernest__CT on 12/22/08 4:33pm
Msg #272621

I tried flags for a while. Stopped. Too big a PITA. n/m

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 12/22/08 4:35pm
Msg #272622

Re: I was born with mine.

I've never used them... and it does seem ironic that a notary would need "notarize" flags.

But, I can see the reason for using them as a reminder to make sure that a package is complete. Everyone has different styles and organization/mind tricks. I do what Steven does. I cut larger notes down. I use different colors for different things (signature, initials, etc..) and they act as a checklist and a tactile reminder that I've covered everything. The flags aren't for "them" so much as for me to make things efficient.

Reply by CaliNotary on 12/22/08 5:49pm
Msg #272631

Re: I was born with mine.

"The flags aren't for "them" so much as for me to make things efficient."

There is nothing efficient about going through a loan package in advance of the signing to flag everything that needs to be signed. That just adds extra time to every signing, and over the course of a year it adds up to big bucks wasted.

If you're knowledgeable enough to be able to locate every spot that needs a signature or initials prior to the signing, you're knowledgeable enough to be able to just wing it at the signing and double check the docs at the end.

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 12/22/08 6:51pm
Msg #272638

Re: I was born with mine.

I agree for the most part, but for new/unfamiliar packages or documents it's a help. Clearly, some places are obvious where signatures/initials/seals are needed and it becomes second nature.

Flagging an entire package is a real waste of time to be sure for most people. Especially when you just have to pull them all off again later. But for some people I can see how it IS helpful from some situations. I use small sticky papers in places I need them as a simple reminder to myself. Sometimes it has nothing to do with a place to sign so much as it is a visual cue or reminder to do or say something, like verify I have all the stipulations. I couldn't flag every single spot, though. That would take forever.

Far better for me that I take the time use 2 or 3 sticky papers in a package then miss an initial on an unfamiliar or new document. When it some to that kind of thing, not everyone can be that same because our brains work so differently.

Reply by parkerc/ME on 12/22/08 5:37pm
Msg #272628

Re: I make my own. Pad of sticky notes and monster paper cutter

I do the same as Steven. And, like Marian, more for my own reminder than for BO. Like to do that if I have time, but too often only time to print docs and fly out the door.

Reply by LKT/CA on 12/22/08 8:50pm
Msg #272650

Re: I make my own. Pad of sticky notes and monster paper cutter

I use the arrows for reverse mortgage signings as it helps the borrower because I can point and they still say "Where, HERE?" so when I use the neon arrows, that's what they look for and it works well for them. I use post-it strips to highlight the notarial certificates. Works well as most of the time, the wording is incorrect and I need add compliant ones. Whether or not one uses them is personal preference and has no bearing on experience.

Reply by CopperheadVA on 12/22/08 9:33pm
Msg #272655

I use the flags on a limited basis

I agree that some signers still don't know where to sign even after you pointed it out. I like to use the "sign here" flags for the 1003. I also use plain flags for the initials on the 1003. I just hand the 1003 stack to them and say "follow the flags". I also flag the HUD 1003 addendum on the two signature lines on page 2 and the one line on page 4. Again, tell the borrowers to "follow the flags". For me, this makes things go faster for those two docs. Borrowers seem to appreciate it, too.

Reply by Kathy Fletcher on 12/23/08 9:44am
Msg #272665

Thanks to all for the input. As to the question on how do I use these. I flag the notarized pages on the right side and while final checking my documents for errors, I pull the flag only after I make sure the stamp is there and the notarial certificate is complete. It is just one of my own quality assurance techniques. For me, I feel using the pre printed flags appears to be more professional.

Happy Holidays!
Kathy

Reply by sue_pa on 12/23/08 10:10am
Msg #272666

Naturally it's to each his own how we do our jobs so that it's completed correctly the first time.

My thoughts on this post:

1. It's like the carpenter putting a "Hit me" tag on the nail.
2. "More professional" to who? yourself? Surely the borrowers aren't thinking about that.

Reply by Steven Pearce on 12/23/08 1:47pm
Msg #272686

My main use for these are when the package

comes with special instructions regarding an additional initialing or any other of a myriad of 'special concerns'. If you're one of those who are constantly busy, I can see where these would be awkward and time consuming. For those of us who aren't chasing an appointment book all day, I like to go through the entire package before I leave to make sure everything is there, and I might as well flag the 'specials' while I'm at it.

Reply by CaliNotary on 12/24/08 1:21am
Msg #272730

"My thoughts on this post:

1. It's like the carpenter putting a "Hit me" tag on the nail."

Heheheheheheheheh. I swear Sue, we are sharing the same brain.