Posted by Notaryofcal on 7/13/08 1:20am
Msg #255029

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Reply by Jack Tri on 7/13/08 1:50am
Msg #255030

Re: UPDATES on DOCUSERV **DEADBEATS**

$90.00 Completed 5/7/208

$75.00 Completed 5/1/2008

$135.00 Completed 4/22/2008

$100.00 completed 4/21/2008

$200.00 completed 4/17/2008

$100.00 completed - 12/8/2007


6 signings Notaryofcal should get 700.00 docuserv got paid 1,300.00 and wants to keep it all.
Deadbeats report them to fbi

Detective Joe Monroe
Computer Crimes
Specialized Investigations Unit
1 Civic Center Plaza
Irvine, CA. 92623
(949) 724-7174
The Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) is a partnership between the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the National White Collar Crime Center (NW3C), and the Bureau of Justice Assistance (BJA).

IC3's mission is to serve as a vehicle to receive, develop, and refer criminal complaints regarding the rapidly expanding arena of cyber crime. The IC3 gives the victims of cyber crime a convenient and easy-to-use reporting mechanism that alerts authorities of suspected criminal or civil violations. For law enforcement and regulatory agencies at the federal, state, local and international level, IC3 provides a central referral mechanism for complaints involving Internet related crimes.

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Reply by ZeeCA on 7/13/08 3:18am
Msg #255031

I cannot believe you posted BOs names this goes out onto

internet and it is NO ONE's business who the BOs are.

secondly you seem to accept some pretty low fees (JMO)

thirdly, why are you waiting for them to go bankrupt before you do anything.

jmo but this is ridiculous posting BOs names and letting it go so long...

Reply by GA/Atty on 7/13/08 10:37am
Msg #255044

The borrowers' full names, property addresses, and even the

amounts of the loan are already public information, anyway.

While it is certainly irrelevant to the point of the original post, I don't see what the issue is other than that.

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 7/13/08 10:51am
Msg #255047

Re: The borrowers' full names, property addresses, and even the

Maybe public information anyway, however if I took out a loan I wouldn't want the info to be posted on the net. A notary should be keeping the borrowers names confidential.

Reply by 101livescan on 7/13/08 11:03am
Msg #255049

Re: The borrowers' full names, property addresses, and even

The notary's primary duty in CA is to protect the individual's identity and to protect the public from Identity Fraud. Of course, we are to be completely, uncompromisingly discreet and confidential as to details of our client's personal information.

Reply by Marlene/USNA on 7/14/08 8:39am
Msg #255103

Re: No

The notary's primary duty anywhere, including California, is to demand the personal appearance of the signer and to identify him or her properly.

Just making sure newbies don't run off on a tangent. . .

Marlene
United States Notary Association
www.enotary.org

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 7/13/08 11:30am
Msg #255054

When the borrowers sign the security instrument for their

loan they do so with the understanding it will be recorded in the appropriate land records to secure the note - however, IMO, they are NOT giving the notary permission to post their names on a public chat forum for any and all to see. IMO posting these names was very inappropriate.

Reply by Notaryofcal on 7/14/08 12:59pm
Msg #255123

Re: The borrowers' full names, property addresses, and even the

i never printed their full names, property address so I have no idea what the heck you are talking about

Reply by GA/Atty on 7/13/08 8:15am
Msg #255032

Why complete a job in April when he still owed for December? n/m

Reply by 101livescan on 7/13/08 9:17am
Msg #255037

Re: UPDATES on DOCUSERV **DEADBEATS**

None of us who are owed money by "DOCKYOURPAY" deadbeat Docuservusa.com thought we would not be paid, and even when we weren't, Bret Babos, now a severed employee, said he would put us on a payment plan while they worked on a loan to get everyone paid up. Just a delay tactic.

Although I'll say that after I didn't get paid last fall for work done during the summer, I quit working for docuservusa altogether. I was owed just over $500 and I refused work with them until they got current. Then Bret became very surly and ugly. Then no pay, I am owed around $140 and I'll turn it over to a collection agency.

I wouldn't have published borrowers' names either, well, we're all pretty upset about not getting paid for our hard work and getting dumped on while Johnny and Bret lavished in their OC lifestyle. Nice cars, houses, vacations...

Angela, either take them to Small Claims, get a judgment and hope they pay you, take the amount to collection agency and get at least 1/2 to 2/3 of your money, and write off the balance. If you get a judgment you may never be able to collect if they go BK, which is likely.

Most importantly, keep these guys in mind when the market comes back in a couple of years and they try to open their doors under another guise.

Best of luck to you! Happy Sunday.

Reply by Jack Tri on 7/16/08 1:09am
Msg #255364

Re: UPDATES on DOCUSERV **DEADBEATS**

BBB F We strongly question the company’s reliability for reasons such as that they have failed to respond to complaints, their advertising is grossly misleading, they are not in compliance with the law’s licensing or registration requirements, their complaints contain especially serious allegations, or the company’s industry is known for its fraudulent business practices.

Reply by Linda Hubbell on 7/13/08 10:05am
Msg #255042

This post needs to be deleted along with the other response

citing borrowers' names.

Reply by MW/VA on 7/13/08 11:45am
Msg #255057

Re: This post needs to be deleted along with the other response

I agree. IMO, it is a breach of the confidentiallity that is expected of notaries.
What was the purpose of this public post? I guess you might as well have gone on
You-Tube with the story.

Reply by Lisa Bittner on 7/13/08 12:43pm
Msg #255064

Re: This post needs to be deleted along with the other response

last names does not tell anyone anything

the primary purpose of a notary is not privacy either.

This poster did not give out any information of any use.
let this poster vent! seems everyone else gets too

the FBI does not have the man power to fight the battles that consumers find themselves in. Give it a try, they might make a phone call, they might keep a report.

Small Claims in the outlet that is offered to us.
The FBI will not get your money,it might scare a company into paying you,
however, if they do anything substantial its to protect others, not to get your money for you.
This IRVINE office that was listed told me, they have cases worth 1 million dollars they are having a tough time prosecuting due to man power.

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 7/13/08 1:51pm
Msg #255069

Lisa...if this was YOUR notary posting names of borrowers

that YOUR signing service assigned to them you'd be having a fit!! And if you don't then there's something wrong with any service condoning public posting of borrowers' names...

And why are you suddenly posting under your own name, Lisa - what happened to your SS forum alias?

Reply by Lisa Bittner on 7/13/08 2:35pm
Msg #255072

Re: Lisa...if this was YOUR notary posting names of borrowers

Linda, first off, no one is MY notary, I have signings agents who are kind enough to partner with our company. If a signing agent posted a last name like this poster, my concern would be for my reputation for non payment.

I rarely have "fits" and a last name would not be of any concern to me.
Most homeowners in the last 6 years have borrowered against equity. Its not a streach to imagine many people come with those last names, and with out further information the name is of NO use.


and how I post is my business, and as most regulars know Lisa Bittner is Socal. What possible difference could this make to you?


Lisa
L

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 7/13/08 2:42pm
Msg #255073

You're absolutely right - how you post is your business and

not mine...I take that back..

But I am surprised that you don't see a problem with posting borrowers' names...

Reply by Lisa Bittner on 7/13/08 4:33pm
Msg #255079

Borrowers last name.

Maybe the better question is WHY DO YOU THINK ITS HARMFUL? what would someone do with a last name?

This poster, cleary is very frustrated because she trusted this company.
The problem is DocuserUSA worked for many years in good faith, no deception at all.
Now they are in trouble, and many scream fraud.

its not fraud, its just business and the government tells us our rights, all we have to do is excercise them.
But we could all get off topic and beat the poster for putting benign last names.

or tell the poster shes a fool, yeah that is helpful.

Reply by CaliNotary on 7/14/08 1:21am
Msg #255095

Gotta agree with Lisa

The original post didn't post the borrower's names, it posted last names. Huge difference. There is absolutely no breach of privacy because there's no way to even begin to guess who these people are.

Reply by Notaryofcal on 7/14/08 12:58pm
Msg #255121

Reoly from the original POST

I am the person who posted this message. 1st of all, I had a new accountant take over my books and did not realize that I was due money from a signing in December when I took the next jobs in 2008. 2nd if you read the dates all the signings were done within 1 to 2 weeks, so how am I to know that they were not going to pay. 3rd, I only wrote the borrowers last name because I cut and pasted the email I sent to the company. There is no way anyone could figure out who the borrowers were let alone where they live, since all you all know is that I am a notary in CA. Addressing the people who say I took a low fee, either you are not working with signing services on a regular basis or you are just lucky to get higher fees. 99% of signing services pay 100-125 for a 1st edocs in CA. Also to those who have stated why I would wait until until they go BK, I have called, email, faxed and posted on notary forums - so the company and all other notaries are aware of the situation! Like any other deadbeat ss they do not respond or respond with some ridiculous answer. As to why my original post got deleted I do not know either, this is a place to vent and let other notaries know what is happening to fellow notaries!

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 7/14/08 1:29pm
Msg #255127

Re: Reoly from the original POST

"As to why my original post got deleted I do not know either,"

Possibly because you included names of the borrowers.
You could have posted your rant without putting borrowers names in the message.
Heck, I got reamed on another forum once because I mentioned I had a signing and I arrived just after they had wheeled the borrower's deceased father out of the house.
One poster on the forum said the borrower would be easy to figure out from the obit notices in my local paper and that he had already figured out who it was. Which was impossible as the obituary ran in an out of state newspaper where the deceased gentleman was from. There was nothing in my local paper, and as I hadn't mentioned where the deceased gentleman was from there was no way this guy could have known who the borrower was.

But, we don't post ANY indication of borrowers names on a public forum. It just isn't ethical.